How hard are you incels going to seethe when AEW's tv debut happens and its a total flop like all the e drones were...

how hard are you incels going to seethe when AEW's tv debut happens and its a total flop like all the e drones were expecting?

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That first requires that I actually give a fuck which WWE already took along with soul.

Bro a niche wrestling show on a no-name network will draw millions of viewers

>Seethe
I'm fully in support of AEW and i'm telling you right now that I don't think it will see significant ratings for at LEAST two years. It's got a long way to go to bring back the ex WWE fans they're looking to capture for their first phase.

Not at all since they aren't even on TV yet and WWE are already sweating lol

I am not a retard and wont give a fuck about its ratings for atleast like one year

Tell Impact, ROH, and Lucha Underground that ham and egger

Are you guys going by rope, bullet, blade or jumping?

AEW is just going to be MLW but with no fat guys

>AEW debuts in the fall
I guarantee that not only will Smackdown and Raw ratings hit a sub 2.0 by then, but that it will be the average. By Christmas we will be seeing sub 1.0 ratings for taped RAW’s. AEW will have won by default because WWE will have completely collapsed in on itself in the next 5 years. Screencap this if you want.

Where’d you get that picture?

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>"No-name network"
>"TNT reaches more homes than USA network"

Damn you're a dumbass.

>incel
Weird way to write pencil...

If WWE falls, everyone falls.
Pro wrestling is dead.

Don't listen to the AEWtists spreading lies about the ratings already. They said something like if it gets over 1 million it's not a flop. This is a lie. When WWE gets under 2 million you retards declare WWE dead. If AEW doesn't average above 2.5 million on its debut it is below TNA tier, it is a flop period.

Wrestling is dead and the reason is that its fucking gay. Casual fans are not coming back with all the different options of entertainment out today.

E-Drone logic.

This.

TNT is paying for production on this thing. AEW isnt making any money off of the commerical time sold either. So this means that if AEW doesnt hit that figure early on TNT is not going to be paying to see if it gets profitable

An ongoing promotion with a streak of historic low ratings after 3 decades of broadcast is not comparable to a promotion just starting out and finding it's legs.

That would be above RAW retard

If Smackdown, arguably the most well known wrestling show NA, averages ~1.5 million viewers on FREE, OVER THE AIR T.V channel, AEW won't even come close to 1 million on TNT, a channel that indeed is not free and over the air.

Bullet. All the other options you have to be in pain dealing with your inevitable demisr or you have time to think wait this was a bad idea right.before you die. Like imagine jumping and halfway down you realized you might have overreacted and made a bad choice and now you are just fucked. Gun you get to think about it until you pull the trigger. Its why I dont own guns.

WWE is a 40 year old company, AEW is a...3 months one i think?

It is if the station provider is footing the bill for production bucko

Damn that nigga ugly

The only way to save pro wrestling is for one these companys to start catering to people that are sick of political correctness and bring back the attitude era.

AEW is selling out arenas in record pace despite minimal or near absent advertising while being backed by more money than Vince or Ted.

Saying wrestling in the US is dead because WWE is dead is peak E-Drone logic. Nothing can exist without WWE to these types.

Well i mean AEW is TV-14 and Brand is a massive slut so there is a chance

Then theyre fucked because AEW already showed their political bullshit.

Sup seff, you jealous jon gets to wrestle in front of a crowd of humans, instead of tarps?

Still more than WWwho

Unironically you guys call them SJW shit but their current material is much more "edgy" than what WWE does, when was the last time someone called a girl a trash bag gold digging whore like MJF did in AEW?

Yes. But when was the last time I had to watch a legless fuck get a potential title match? Or a fag face sit another wrestler?

>Moving the goalpost

I think if they're smart with their production then they'll make a lot of money off a smaller audience 2bh. WWE has a lot of stupid shit that is causing their decline and it doesn't necessarily have to be done the same way in AEW.

>Extremely expensive tickets
>5hr shows with 3 hours TV time including filling time for commercial
>Arbitrary rules about what you can wear and do
>Huge venues even though they're often 1/3 full
>Gained the distrust of fans after rampant false advertisement
>PG
>Network and advertiser pressure affects programming
AEW will have none of this baggage.

Uh sure? Not wanting legless people and actual fags means Im not into edgy shit. Sure

They arent paying for the production. TNT is,
They dont make money off of advertising. No shares. They basically get the right to be on TNT.

>The only way to save pro wrestling is for one these companys to start catering to people that are sick of political correctness and bring back the attitude era.
That just simply cant happen. Money rules everything.

Lets say you start up a new wrestling promotion and you have enough money to make a start but you are going to NEED advertising and investment. If you are anti-pc what company is going to be a partner with you?

Almost every single company in the world with almost no exceptions fully embraces the pc progressive agenda. You wont be able to finance a damn thing if you market yourself as being the politically incorrect (i.e. racist, homophobic and bigoted) promotion. Not only that no wrestler is going to want to work for you because doing so could the hurt their reputation going forward. "Oh you want to work for AEW but you worked for billy bobs wrestling promotion and said nigger a few times. Thanks but no thanks"

tl;dr - you cant break the progressive agenda because money rules the world and progressive people control the money

>A freak show has freak characters

stop the presses

Zach Gowan and Rikishi

So it's a freak show now? I thought it was trying to be more of a legit sport presentation. This is the problem with you faggots. You're binary in nothing else but wrestling thought.

They share ad revenue

Retard wrestling itself is a freak show

Mhm. Zach never got a title shot. Rikishi was a monster heel before becoming a comedy act and never rubbed his ass in someones face for pleasure. It was to humilate. Please dont take the slippery slope argument that the fag is dong the same. You know he's not. Dont insult your own intelligence defending that

Even back in Attitude era WWE made shit ad revenue because of this

They do not. TNT is not sharing ad revenue because there are no numbers to base that off of. This is them giving AEW a chance to be on a viable network. AEW has no leverage here and if you think they do and mention fucking ALl or Nothing youre a drone and need to Beniot yourself. It's business. Theyre an unknown commodity

Drew Carey, Michael Cole and a bunch of midgets were in the Rumble and I don't like Sonny either but the point with him was to humiliate as well.

>"It’s being treated like a sports property so production fees are there and a ‘great’ advertising split for AEW. "

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You know, the funniest thing about all this is how smug you were in your ignorance. Fucking Seff.

so not AEW then

Hey man we are cherry picking pieces of history I dont like either which is only underscoring why I think seeing them all gathered together in one battle royale in a companies first show for the chance at a title shot makes it all the dumber especially when the company is saying they want to portray a more realistic sports vibe. Stop blindly defending shit when you know it's stupid, Is that not the battle cry against WWE fans?

>selling out arenas

They sold out bingo halls of 15k and 11k

fyter fest is still not sold out after a month and that is only 9k

I didn't like it either, but they're short on talent right now because everyone is tied up in contracts.
I don't think it will be par for the course. Wrestlers just don't grow on trees.

>Hey man we are cherry picking pieces of history I dont like either which is only underscoring why I think seeing them all gathered together in one battle royale in a companies first show for the chance at a title shot makes it all the dumber especially when the company is saying they want to portray a more realistic sports vibe. Stop blindly defending shit when you know it's stupid, Is that not the battle cry against WWE fans?

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Did you read that article? Because in it it says there is dispute over whether or not there is any advertising to be split. Do you understand what is being said in that article? That it's conjecture? All that was said for sure was what I said. That TNT covers production. TNT is getting content and AEW gets a platform. Thats the agreement you ham and egger

Well back then it was because it was too violent and offensive from a moral "christian sensibility" standpoint. Today its because everything is too gay.

Thats my concern. Roster is top heavy and paper thin. I dont want to see Mox wrestling Luchasarus and shit

>fyter fest is still not sold out after a month and that is only 9k
retard who didnt know who they sell their tickets

Biggest WWE Jacksonville show I can find did 7k
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Night_Stand_(2007)

I just googled "cody wrestling fan" and it came up on Google Images. Why, is it a big deal?

Did YOU read the article? Because it does no such thing. Alvarez only "disputed" the exact details because he was unaware of the exact revenue formula. Meltzer, Wade Keller, and other insiders have said there will be an advertisement split. Now, unless you have any sort of source to back up your claim, shut the fuck up. You don't know shit, you're just throwing a tantrum and trying to find anything to discredit that fact that they got a great TV deal. Suck. A. Dick :) :)

>Meltzer, Wade Keller, and other insiders
You're going by dirt sheets to find out what the contract between a national TV company and a privately held promotion are doing? And I dont know wtf Im talking about? Dude there is a world beyond wrestling brother. Meltzer or any other "insider" knows about as much as you do. The exact details is there are no revenue shares because if you are in marketing you know that revenue residuals are paid out depending on,among other things, the size of the viewership. Which also effects the kinds of advertisers who will want to buy ad time. Seeing as there is no fucking data for a company that is 3 months old and has never been on TV. And figuring that TNT got fucking burned the last time they went into wrestling, there is nothing to share because there is no known viewership number. If I'm Tony Khan I dont want to agree on a revenue split before hand because if my show turns out to be a hit Im locked in on a shit revenue deal. If Im TNT why do I have to share revenue with a production that is dependent on me to get it seen and expose it to consumers? So the best thing is to not share and TNT pays production. Thats fucking great though! because Impact and ROH and Lucha Underground couldnt do that. Fuck if they didnt try. So kudos to Khan for swinging a national network deal that covers production without ever having taped a show. But they are not going to be sharing revenue you mong because they dont even know what that demographic or number is.

> didnt know how wrestling battles work
> didnt know "sport based" it dosent mean you cant have comedy or drama
>sony kiss is cute
now go fuck yourself Mr angry boomer

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Quick reminder that TNA is still around after debuting in 2002 and people said it would fail. It's been around 17 years.

WCW lasted 13 years.

Considering Meltzer has a personal connect to Khan, I'd wager he knows wtf he's talking about. Again, you're just shooting in the dark. You have 0% knowledge of the situation, yet somehow are trying to lecture everyone on the details of the deal. Pretty sad man. I'll keep you in mind come October when the details cemented and released to the public, so I can rub your nose in it for being such a dummy.

>You're going by dirt sheets to find out what the contract between a national TV company and a privately held promotion are doing? And I dont know wtf Im talking about? Dude there is a world beyond wrestling brother. Meltzer or any other "insider" knows about as much as you do. The exact details is there are no revenue shares because if you are in marketing you know that revenue residuals are paid out depending on,among other things, the size of the viewership. Which also effects the kinds of advertisers who will want to buy ad time. Seeing as there is no fucking data for a company that is 3 months old and has never been on TV. And figuring that TNT got fucking burned the last time they went into wrestling, there is nothing to share because there is no known viewership number. If I'm Tony Khan I dont want to agree on a revenue split before hand because if my show turns out to be a hit Im locked in on a shit revenue deal. If Im TNT why do I have to share revenue with a production that is dependent on me to get it seen and expose it to consumers? So the best thing is to not share and TNT pays production. Thats fucking great though! because Impact and ROH and Lucha Underground couldnt do that. Fuck if they didnt try. So kudos to Khan for swinging a national network deal that covers production without ever having taped a show. But they are not going to be sharing revenue you mong because they dont even know what that demographic or number is.

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>journalism doesn't exist

Having a mental disease that ensures you dont procreate does not make you special. it never will. It just means that youre so uninteresting on a fundmental level that the only interesting about you is how horrible you are at knowing what to fuck. Congrats!

Not in wrestling or videogames no

"[My] big goal is to establish a better work-life balance and quality of life for our performers with less time on the road [and] very good money comparable to what you'd get at the highest level in the world of wrestling, because we can make the bulk of our revenue from pay-per-view and television," Khan said

>"Dude, You're just going off what Khan said. >What does he know?
>There's n-n-n-no way that they'll get an >advertisement split."

>there are people that defend AEW very vigorously online

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>Having a mental disease that ensures you dont procreate does not make you special. it never will. It just means that youre so uninteresting on a fundmental level that the only interesting about you is how horrible you are at knowing what to fuck. Congrats!

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Yea you're right it is an ancient custom to think of fags as degenerates.
>b-but...m-muh social media say I'm sp..special

Yea because AEW hasnt lied about half the shit they were going to do already amirite? Where are those health benefits and non exclusive contracts again?
>inb4 the excuses

>AEW wrestlers are AAA champs
>AEW wrestlers is NJPW US champ
>"Where dah non echsclusive contracts at?"

Yeah, we're done here.

>Mox cant work NJPW in states
>Bucks have to drop AAA titles
>PAC wont do the job because of DG
cope more ham and egger

Calm down you stupid uneducated,uncultured old boomer
Now go and take your diabetes and high pressure medicine and fuck yourself

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Man getting insulted by someone who isnt sure what to fuck, who they are and needs outside validation to have any sense of self identity. Crawl into an oven and turn your useless body into something useful for the rest of humanity.

>Man getting insulted by someone who isnt sure what to fuck, who they are and needs outside validation to have any sense of self identity. Crawl into an oven and turn your useless body into something useful for the rest of humanity.

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All the gifs cant change the fact that you have a mental disorder that makes you suck actual cock

>All the gifs cant change the fact that you have a mental disorder that makes you suck actual cock

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based
oh, shut the fuck up you whining faggot.

What a fucking fag

>his counter-argument is the obligations of AEW guys in other companies
>Where are those non-exclusive contracts?

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Nigga that's Cody, he's the ultimate e-drone and hates AEW. At least post the fat chick from the press conference.

AEW is going to be a slightly better, more popular TNA 2006. I've accepted this and im okay with it.

After seeing the Road To Fyter Fest vids, I have no doubts about their ability to make good TV.

>No Jarrett
>No Russo
It's okay to raise your expectations.

What? That first month is going to be their highest ratings ever.

Jeribloat is pretty much JUST Jarrett levels at this point

They won't even hit RoH numbers.

nice collection of (you)s OP. you worked those aewtists good

>What a fucking fag

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Jarrett was based as a performer, he just needed to stay away from everything else kek

If you include the main event in everything else, then I'm down.

this deserves a bump