How come people say workrate isn't a draw when bret hart, a guy with no mic skills until his last year in wwe, draw money through 92-96? He didn't draw as much as hogan, but draws more than the wrestlers today,guess what, workrate isn't the problem, it's the company.
How come people say workrate isn't a draw when bret hart, a guy with no mic skills until his last year in wwe...
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Bret didn't draw houses during his title reigns. He was over in Canada and that's about it.
he drew in germany and uk and france.
Sold out Wembley Stadium at SummerSlam 92.
>a guy with no mic skills
Holy crap,I never realized that. (not being sarcastic).
I mostly remember the time he took off his shades and handed them to a kid.
That kid could be me some day!
THAT made me a fan.
NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED IN 92!
NOTHING!
So he drew outside of the US but not in the target market.
Savage/Warrior sold that show. Bret's IC match was not a draw.
His workrate was vastly different what marks consider workrate these days. He made it look real.
The WWF sold out those shows because they would go once a year at the most.
Bret was an anti-draw, there's a reason McMahon fucked him at WM 9 and Montreal.
Michaels drew more(still not much and carried shitters better.
Card position and crowd reaction tells a different story.
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sorry about the low quality,but here are some mic skills,fren
this is kind of true but bret got over because he made the other guys look good and they liked him like macho man and even andre worked for him. it's not that work rate isn't a draw but he was in a good position to make guys look good in the ring and they went to bat for him as well. today that means fuck all because everyone is a midcarder.
He was not a draw in the usa.
I don't think Vince would sign an anti draw to a 20 year contract.
He obviously understood Bret's value.
His work was crisp, clean, looked realistic, and was perfectly executed. There were no flips in a Bret Hart match, but good mat work and building tension through the right moves makes people legitimately invested in your work. That’s a big complaint I have with modern work rate guys. They don’t know how to pace matches. Everyone wants a 60 minute Okada level time limit draw with a hug and a handshake at the end. But then they go around and use Canadian Destroyers 5 minutes into a match. Bret could do beatdowns, hero rallies, comebacks, and submission wins and do them *well*
He might not be GOAT tier or who would be on Mt.Rushmore but he’s one of the best to ever do it from bell to bell
also worth noting that Bret could work with anyone on the roster. could work faster if he needed to with Dynamite/Owen/etc. as well as the big guys..
this is why i hate johnny gargano and ricochet, cause they make this shit look fake, at least when shawn michaels flew in the air it meant something and it was meant to hurt the opponent and not to get a cheap pop, but i have faith in guys like WALTER and Roderick strong to make it look real.
What's so great about Bret's wrestling?
He doesn't have any flashy moves.
His most impactful move is a running neckbreaker.
Bret was perfectly serviceable on the mic, and he had a tremendous natural charisma to him that supplemented his average promo skills.
not enough flips for ya?
He made it look real, and was a reminder of what wrestling used to be in the 1940's-70's. youtube.com
I thought that was real when I first saw it.
Today “workrate” basically just means cardio and general athletic ability.
Back then, “workrate” was more like how good a match you could work with any given guy. Knowing which spots to do, when, where and most importantly WHY. Ring psychology was a huge factor.
Bret could of probably taken half the geeks on this board and worked a 5 minute match with em to make them look like a million bucks.
Man sold the whole got damn match. Something these retard in ring marks cant comprhend.
Putting the carriage before the horse.
Plenty of history to show what Vimce thought of him.
Sid was the draw.
Workrate just can't be the end all. You need sizzle with the steak, whether it's look, mic work, charisma, gimmick, or storyline.
Bret was a bad promo mostly by his own admission. He just didn't think much of himself here. I'd say he was probably even underrated, but just didn't seem very good by comparison, having to follow up Hogan, or having HBK as a contemporary.