What happened

>What exactly killed WCW?
DX in a freakin tank! How cool was that?

Contracts that were too big
Too many contracts
Too many primadonnas
Terrible nonsensical booking
The product was not edgy enough

Basically Democrats

1 & 2 are WWE rn. 3 also but no weekly show is anywhere close to them in ratings. If AEW ding-dong diddly kill the E I’m gonna fap so hard

>Turner merger
>Execs didn't care about it anymore
>Guaranteed contract abuse
>Execs also fucked with it

The Nitro book that came out talks in better detail than that other shit book.

Russo, Bischoff and Hogan

AOL didn't want any wrasslin' on their networks and Fusient Media Ventures ended backing out of buying it when they wouldn't get a TV deal from Time-warner. WWE then bought it for peanuts

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>What killed wcw
The AOL merge. They didn't want wrestling so that's what killed WCW. Now would it have be culled if they weren't on live support and hemoraging money? We'll never know

WCW was a wholly owned property of AOL-time warner and it was theirs to dispose of as they saw fit, corruption my ass.

Too many cooks

wcw made all of its money off tv, vince made his money off PPVs. that's why WCW gave the big matches away on nitro because they made money hand over fist doing it. so it's not the PPV buys tanking because that was never an integral part of their business model

a lot of anons will say that it was because AOL didn't want wrasslin in its portfolio anymore but the fact of the matter is that if WCW was still drawing 1997 levels of dimes they never would have sold it. it was a fast sinking ship for reasons totally outside the merger and the writing was on the wall in 2000

not true

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Vince bought them and shut it down.

In his defense,Russo made sure WCW could never recover with his retarded booking.

Get a clue. His solo stint was good shit with Powers That Be and eliminating the legends one by one was supposed to end with all of them returning back together.

What did he hint at? That Vince knew someone at Warner, and Vince greased the wheels to convince this guy to sell WCW below its market value?

it was a shit company and promotion by the time they got to 96.
no clue what anyone ever saw in their dogshit shows.
the only person with an ounce of talent was sting.

When Nash became head booker, the profits declined by 92%

Kek what an anti-draw

Surprised more people don't put more blame on Goldberg, too push this talentless hack they had him bury the entire mid and upper midcard to push this idiots undefeated streak

Then they blame Nash in defeating him (even though with heavy interference) because somehow it's Nash's fault that a guy gimmick is he can't lose. Sorry if that's your gimmick you are fucked

So it's that and Bret Hart. God Bret is such a jinx everywhere he goes bad things happen .

Too many cocks?

I doubt you were event alive or cognizant 97-98 but Goldberg was fucking huge. He kept WCW going a full year after they ruined the NWO angle.

The most fucked up things about these threads are the dipshits commenting that weren’t even wrestling fans when this shit happened.

AOL/TimeWarner merge and takeover of the company killed it.

They would have been able to survive all of the other bad shit.

pretty much

>What exactly killed WCW?
A lot of things contributed to the total collapse of WCW's creative side. Too many things to really talk about in one post, or even one full thread. On a more literal stand point, this is correct
If the merger never happened, Turner would have kept funding WCW forever. He didn't care if it made money or not, he had a vendetta against Vince and was prepared to throw an insane amount of money at WCW to put him under.

Also, read this book. It's great and goes into greater detail about the problems of WCW than I could ever with a few shitty posts.

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I can't remember exactly what went down, but I think Bichoff believed they were close to making something happen before WWE bought them

I'd argue that WCW created new stars (Big Show, DDP, Goldberg, Jericho). Or shit, even Eddy and Benoit. They developed a ton of new talent... they just didn't know how to effectively use them. That was their problem.

>TNT drops WCW cause they don't want prowrestling
>TNT picks up AEW cause they want prowrestling

How does that work?

This book has been thoroughly trashed and debunked since Nitro came out. Read that instead.

Will do senpai.

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I was more than alive, He was huge, but you couldn't sustain it because he was artificial, the fans loved the undefeated streak but felt no sympathy for him as a performer. There was no connection, it's why the air went out of the balloon after he lost
All these guys were fed to Goldberg.

Raven-DDP had an amazing feud for the US title in 98. DDP did a great job in putting Raven over after a very hot feud at Spring Stampede. The Very next night Goldberg defeats Raven for the US title that he really didn't need as we all knew he was going for the World title soon anyway.

WWE's corporate look probably gave the suits a reason not to look down on wrestling, prime WCW and the attitude era had a ton of low brow filler so I don't blame them for what they did in the past.

It's been almost 2 decades since the death of WCW. A lot changes in that time. I'd guess the upper management of TNT are totally different for one, different executives and so forth.

>fed to Goldberg

Well sure. Dude was 173-0, he was over AF.

I'm just saying wwe didn't just magically create guys like Jericho or Benoit out of thin air. WCW made a lot of stars.

PS... this was my first wrestling shirt (only ever bought two, the other was "ECf'nW" - another fed that created new stars but gets no love)

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Shit writing and bullshit, what's killing wwe at the moment actually

What's really interesting now is the fact that Vince McMahon seemingly being tone deaf when it comes to making some of the exact mistakes late era WCW did. Like you'd imagine he'd learn from history, but here we are, almost 20 years later, and we have Vince doing some of the EXACT same bullshit late era WCW did.

>A roster that's so bloated that may wrestlers literally get paid to sit at home
>That same talent doesn't have the option to leave
>Everyone backstage is fucking miserable
>Belts mean fucking nothing
>Creative decisions are made on a whim from show to show
>The creative process as a whole is complete chaos
>Legends/ Part timers always made to look stronger than the talent that's there week to week
And so on

Bischoff makes it sound like WCW was never really sustainable and it was only a matter of time, desu.

WCW was around for like 12 or 13 years IIRC. In that time it was profitable for maybe 2 or 3 of those years. The point wasn't even the profit though, it was Turners pet project, and he was willing to throw and lose massive amounts of money on it, and all because he had a genuine seething loathing of McMahon.

Obsession with ratings hurt the product. They would do any dumb shit for a ratings boost.

Death Of WCW is good for explaining the creative decisions that killed WCW, while the Nitro book is good for explaining the business decisions that killed the company.

truthfully as with any other wrestling book/history it's probably 50/50 real and bullshit depending on who is telling it

>Well sure. Dude was 173-0, he was over AF.

This is retard logic.

Imagine being this retarded.

Ya seethe?

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yup. and I boil. no alpha should crush my manlet boyfriends! i miss u Raven, i wanna suck ur cock!

Goldberg is still main eventing wrestling ppvs while all 173 of his opponents are out of the business.

Yes, Goldberg going over all those people was the right thing to do. Quit crying, you baby.

It rotted from within. WCW was based for a while but giving the wrestlers too much power and putting Russo in charge killed the company. Also the merger of AOL/Time Warner and WWE buying them for only 2 Million sealed their fate.

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Taskmaster killed the WCW just like he killed Benoit. It was his task to kill things. now he can sleep happily having pleased his master

AOL merger is the primary, but I'll list the biggest flops.
NWO Nitro/Starrcade 97 with Hogan/Sting was the start of the decline.
Halloween Havoc 98 with Hogan/Warrior was the point of no return.
Fingerpoke of Doom was the Titanic hitting the iceberg.
KISS concert was the Chernobyl of ratings bombs, think it was something like 700K people stopped watching when that happened.
It was dead long before Arquette got his hands on it.

TV is vastly different from back then. The only things that draw consistently well nowadays are live sports games. Raw and SD consistently place high on their nights. TNT probably hasn't had a hit show in years.

investors tried to buy wcw off aol for $30 million but they said no
guess how much they sold it to vince for less than a year later? $3 million

AOL

them investors are stupid wanting to pay that much for the wcw

Bischoff was fired the month before for very good reasons. They rode the nWo/Hogan corpse for far too long without building the stars of the 90's, and most importantly, PUTTING WCW OVER in the end.

Then Bischoff got fired, then Russo came in, had a good month, then fucked up.

I don't absolve Russo at all, but Bischoff and Hogan got them into the shit well before Russo ever entered the picture. Russo was too busy writing for Vince as WCW was crashing.

Sort of. WCW started losing to WWE permanently in the ratings in November of 1998 while Goldberg was champion and they hadn't beaten Raw in 8 weeks by the time Goldberg lost the belt.

I think there's a good case for DDP beating Goldberg at Havoc, or building up a popular star to beat Goldberg at Starrcade '98, which Nash sort of was, but he wasn't exactly competition for Austin and The Rock on the other channel.

Does Nitro portray Bischoff and Russo in a sympathetic light? Because Death of WCW felt very objective for the most part, short of playing up a few angles. I just think all the bitter mark assholes who used to work in the company at the time hate being portrayed as anything other than amazing or outside of their own narrative.

you must be a stupid goldberg mark. He was already deflated by the time he fought Nash when they were piping in Goldberg chants. He peaked when he beat Raven, then he started burying fan favorites like Sting and DDP, and fans were getting upset with that and his same bullshit matches. No selling their favorites finishers, doing an irish whip, spear, jackhammer. That shit only flew when he was beating up Meng, Jerry Flynn a dozen times and Curt Henning. Then he was also exposed by Jericho who clowned him constantly and Goldberg bitched out of their PPV match and drove Jericho to WWE. He hurt Bret, The Giant, Big Poppa Pump and more importantly, himself when he was actually supposed to carry the company. The dude was a total and utter disaster and FAILURE that took more resources than he was worth. They would have been better off giving that push to fucking Van Hammer, who had a better look and was actually passable in the ring, but nope, Bischoff wanted to capitalize on a jew name and a big clumsy oaf who couldn't cut a promo or wrestle a main event match to save his life. He was a sideshow freak. The streak was over, not him. He lost every promo battle he ever had, and looked like a fool in every big match he ever had. There is no one more responsible than killing the ratings than Goldturd.

This. Unironically Vampiro was more over for burying Finlay than he was Goldberg or any other babyface in 1999/2000.

If there's anything I enjoyed about Kevin Sullivan's booking in 2000 is getting Vampiro and Kidman over as top babyfaces.

The Nitro book doesn't portray them as "something", the book rather mentions opinions from others but never push a narrative unlike the Death of WCW book
Also, Nitro is 1000% more objective just with the fact that they actually interviewed the people they talk about