>puts over absolutely nobody on his way out

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Fuck him.

he put over the Saudi government pretty well at last year's ppv

Ay? Cena has lost clean so many times now that it doesn’t even matter anymore.

>puts no effort into his passing of the torch match
>buries Roman on the mic weekly

basef

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Cena has been jobbing pretty hard the past 2 years.

Imagine letting Cena live rent free in your head after years of losing to a bunch of dudes, sometimes even clean.

He's taken a backseat to Reigns despite becoming an even bigger crossover star for multiple years now, and even put over Reigns the one time they wrestled.

Cena could literally spend the next decade losing to literally everyone and people will still complain that he didn't put anyone over.

It took Rock 8 years to come back and finally put over Cena, so it's not like there isn't a precedent for a dude to fuck off to Hollywood then come back and do a big program where he puts someone over anyway.

Gave KO a clean win
Gave DBry a clean win
Prolly gave more but I'm already tired of posting.

he's only lost on TV 4 times (in multi-man matches) since he lost to Nakamura on Smackdown in 2017.

and if you go before that, the last time he lost a singles match on TV was to Dean Ambrose in 2016. He hasn't put anyone over in 3 years

Same. He burried guys when he putting people over meant something. KO and AJ are the only guys he actually put over and gave results.

He put over Nakamora on Smackdown

AJ, KO, DB, CM Punk and Edge.

Wrong
Wrong
He lost 1 of 4 matches against Owens.
He lost to Bryan but fell back on the elbow balloon injury excuse the next night on RAW. He put over Roman but buried the fuck outta him in promos which only solidified Roman as a stuttering geek to the audience.

only guy that will be wrestling in 3 years is KO

Just Punk from your list. He got wins back against the others.

Since dropping Nicole Garcia, John can afford so many laptops to defend himself on Yea Forums with.

ANTI DRAW, fuck this fag.

He's only been on tv like 5 times lmao

Is he the single most cancerous, business destroying faggot in wrestling history? Only Hogan can claim to have wrought as much ruin as Cena, and at least Hogan actually had some periods of genuinely drawing to go along with killing two national wrestling companies.

Cena's bloody decade long reign of terror led to not on wrestler in a generation becoming anything resembling a star at this company. He buried beyond all hope of any recovery, off the top of my head, Woi Barreh, Rusev, Punk, Bray, and Ryder. There are probably others who ended up buried simply by being in proximity to his "humor" of saying poopy and showing badly photoshopped pics.

Who, besides maybe Brock, did Cena actually put over? Cena taking one loss, often not clean, then coming back to win the next half dozen matches (See: KO, Rusev) doesn't count. Cena losing triple threat matches where the 3rd wheel eats the pin (See: Punk's entire reign) doesn't count.

Cena has never, ever actually elevated anyone. Ever.

FUCK FUCKBOY BUCKETHEAD
CORNY ASS WIGGA SPOTLIGHT HOG. HE’S FUCKING TRASH!

no one even cares about this geek any more and he was the top guy for 10 fucking years
KEK WHAT A BITCH

Mate even against Brock he came back the next month at Night of Champions and had Brock beat until Rollins interfered. Then Rollins had to eat the pin in the triple threat at the Rumble

only guy imo that Cena elevated was AJ, that match where AJ outwrestled Cena at every turn was pretty based. i can overlook him getting his win back

>Who, besides maybe Brock, did Cena actually put over?

Did you not watch Brock's first match back?

Randy and he tag team buried Mr Kennedy as well.

>AJ
Buried him to tie an incorrect fake record
>KO
One clean job, followed by getting the win back three times over, is not putting someone over
>Dbry
I don't actually recall this, so we'll just count it. There's ONE GUY Cena might have actually pushed up the card
>Punk
Punk's entire reign was pinning the third guy in three way matches so that Super Cena wouldn't have to ever actually put Punk over, followed by the Rock burying Punk so he could put Cena over.
>Edge
Cena always, and I mean ALWAYS got his win back. It wasn't insufferable at the time, because this was before SuperCena became a real problem, AND Edge was a great heel, AND the matches were usually pretty fucking good. But Cena did not, at all, put Edge over. At best, he didn't outright bury him beyond repair like he did to so many others.

he's had 30 TV matches since fall 2016 and lost only 5

>I can overlook getting his win back
You shouldn’t. He’s literally the faster Triple H.
>get

This was weird. You'd think they would have wanted this to be a big-time feud, culminating at WM or something, with the old company face passing the torch to the new blood. Instead it was a throwaway feud that culminated at a B-show event where it didn't even main event. Also, the build-up consisted of Cena telling Roman what a shitter he was while the smarks finally cheered him. It was bizarre.

>Mate even against Brock he came back the next month at Night of Champions and had Brock beat until Rollins interfered.

God damn it, I forgot about that. Now that you mention, I remember him just gleefully skipping around town texting and shit the day after Brock supposedly murdered him. And when he came back to RAW a full week after the PPV, he basically no sold the entire asswhooping and said he wanted to face Brock again, having learned absolutely nothing.

>Then Rollins had to eat the pin in the triple threat at the Rumble

To be fair, Cena gave him a LOT of offense in that match. Seth got enough time to shine that no one really came off buried in that match.

>only guy imo that Cena elevated was AJ, that match where AJ outwrestled Cena at every turn was pretty based. i can overlook him getting his win back

I, for one, got so monstrously HEATED over Cena coming back from fucking nowhere to CENAWINSLOL AJ in that Rum Bowl, only to drop the title at the next fucking PPV like absolutely nothing fucking mattered, just to tie a fake record that wasn't even the correct record, that it was the exact moment I stopped watching WWE entirely. I had stopped watching RAW for a good year before that, but that was the moment that Smack!Down was completely, 100% ruined. Now that I hear about this Wild Card shit, I'm really quite glad that I stopped watching. The Brand Split is dead, again, due to the exact same stupid faggotry that killed the first brand split, and I guarantee you that Vince has continued to not learn a fucking thing from his many, many failures.

With Randy, Randy USUALLY gave as good as he got, got enough over on Cena to really get heat, and then finally lose the big match like the heel normally does. Randy wasn't diminished by his feuds with Cena to nearly the extent guys like Bray or Rusev were. And Randy had already been neutered by HUNTERWINSLOL anyway.

>Also, the build-up consisted of Cena telling Roman what a shitter he was while the smarks finally cheered him. It was bizarre.

Did Cena ever manage to actually work the crowd into the intended reaction? All that ever happened was the crowd working him.

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who should he put over? Literally everyone sucks

The way he buried Baron Corbin was detrimental to their own show. Pointlessly so. Baron is a shitter, but at least make the guy look half decent.

At the end of the day as right as you are about Cena you're still a cringeworthy numale for putting Hogan and McMahon in the same category.

you said they were wrong twice them pointed out that they were right dum dum

He hasn’t even been on TV that much ya simp. He’s had like one match since Mania 34

And he put Finn over before the rumble

>Owens, Bryan, AJ
Notice how he's only given manlets a rub, he knows they were no real threat to his spot

Not really. Owens win was all but scrubbed by the following 3 defeats. So people look on his first win as a fluke. And Bryan’s win as I explained was played off as Cena not being 100% because of his horrific arm injury which he and the commentators repeatedly made us aware off. So hardly ‘clean’ wins. Or putting over ‘clean’. Owens maybe but what does it matter when he’s punked out the next 3 matches? Also not to forget that Cena made him tap out like a bitch.

The reason Brock is this current incarnation of Brock is because of his wins over Cena and Undertaker. The two other highest powerlevel guys.

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>He lost to Bryan but fell back on the elbow balloon injury excuse the next night on RAW
He literally said the better man won regardless of the injury. How fucking dense are you smarks?

What was the point of talking about the injury on air if not to devalue the win in the eyes of fans? What he says and what his actions portray are different things. He didn't need to say anything about having the injury during the match. They could have just said he injured the arm during the match, and that's why he had to take time out.

He literally said he was leaving because of his injury but wasn't going to blame his loss to the injury. Did you literally not watch the fucking promo?
>They could have just said he injured the arm during the match, and that's why he had to take time out.
Except media outlets already knew he was I jured and there were obvious medical staff on sight just to make sure his arm was good. Yeah, they totally could have just said he got the injury during the match.

Fuck off retard. I’ve been watching Cena long enough to see through his passive aggressive ways. They purposely drew attention to the injury over and over again. His empty words mean little and you’re a typical mark.

>being this clueless
No wonder they got away with that shit for so long with retards like you eating it up

You're clearly a mark who got sucked up in the whole Anti-Cena thing and the fact that you are still crying years later while everyone else has moved on, and you still have your head so far up your ass as to proclaim 'I know the truth and everyone else is wrong' about shit you have no involvement is shows you didn't grow the fuck up and missed the chance to go outside and live your life. Sad as fuck.

>didn’t make a big deal out of putting over rvd
>pushed for edge beating him in toronto for their tlc match
>put over shawn to get some heat back the night after mania
>put over punk
>tried to put over dolph
>put over bryan

They should have just kayfabe said the injury occurred during the match. Even if everyone knew Cena was injured irl, kayfabe attributing the injury to the match would have signaled to the fans that Vince wanted Bryan to win clean.

Just look at Jeff Hardy’s recent injury: everyone knows Hardy was injured at a House show, but Vince still kayfabe attributed the injury to Lars Sullivan.

>Except media outlets already knew he was I jured and there were obvious medical staff on sight just to make sure his arm was good

You understand wrestling is fake and they give kayfabe explanations for real injuries incurred earlier all the time, right? They also didn't have to draw attention to the medical staff. That was all part of a presentation designed to reinforce the portrayal as Cena>Bryan, except that in this case Bryan went over because Cena was weakened.

stop wasting your time, that simp will never understand. you're right btw

Can’t handle that your hero was a sabotaging piece of shit PG era babby? lel, you’re seething lad. That corny motherfucker always had an excuse. >Ah so, The Rock was the better man
>few months later, I wasn’t myself at the time
>RAW before WM29 “I’ll prove the loss last year was a fluke and I’m the better man”
Faggot is worse than Hogan.

reminder adr pretty much squashed him

that's already approaching "itt matches that happened" tier

>He's taken a backseat to Reigns despite becoming an even bigger crossover star for multiple years now
Crossover to what?! Which is bigger, Hefty, Pistachios, or Nickelodeon? Oh wait, I forgot about the ESPY ratings fucking plummeting the year he hosted after goofy retard PeiHGHton Manning hosted. OH NO NO NO NO getting outdrawn by a cheating choke artist.

Here he goes again, getting worked up about his rhetoric. I don't watch WWE, it's your own fault that you do, same as it is your own fault that your life sucks. The fact that you tried to throw a 'seething' in there while you cried your eyes out online makes it even sadder. Move the fuck on.

At least Cena was a legit megastar. Reminder that the only way to get Roman over was to give him a cancer survivor gimmick

Warrior would have done far more damage than either Hogan or Cena if he was allowed to continue much longer.

I never put Vince in the same category as Cena. Vince is in a different category of cancerous.

>this level of projecting and seething
wew lad

PG BABBY PROJECTING HARD

you guys can whine all you want about cena but without him, it feels so soulless

>put over Punk

Stop saying this. Punk's entire feud with Cena was an excuse to repeatedly bury Punk so that the Rock could further bury Punk so that the Rock could put Cena over. It was terrible.

>tried to put over dolph

Oh yeah. That angle where Cena's retarded ass brought back The Authority for no good reason, got Dolph fired, and Dolph spent a fucking month licking Cena's asshole and saying he's a great guy and doesn't blame Cena or anything really put Dolph over strong. You fucking misfire.

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>i-i don't a-actually watch WWE guys!
>I was just pretending to be a faggot

Cena mark absolutely BOILING

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Yea Forums is a Cena board. Based John triggering the redittors

On the contrary, Cena lost to way too many people before he went part time. He never should've lost to people like Kevin Owens. Did he ever lose to Balor? I'm sure that's on faggot run WWE's agenda if Cena ever comes back: put over the Lego loving twink so the austistic fanbase can pretend like he's actually getting pushed.

No wait he put over that up and comer undertaker.

Also he let Finn beat him after he buried him first.

>mfw someone says we should give slightly less money to Israel

>Did he ever lose to Balor?
He buried Balor before EC2018 I believe but Balor got a win back fairly recently

holy shit dude you are absolutely seethed

Imagine being one of those fags so affected by Stockholm Syndrome that you start to pretend John Cena wasn't a cancerous blight.

Good
No one on the roster is worth putting over
He lost clean to Bryan at SummerSlam '13 before making an excuse of having a tennis ball in his elbow.

>Cena was a legit megastar
Took an internet meme for anyone over the age of ten to even know his name dude

Put over more than Stinko Steve Asstin ever did yet he gets a free pass

Because Austin raised the ratings while Cena 10 year reign at the top collapsed them, he drove more people away than he kept

>Austin raised the ratings

Nope, that would be Vince. People tuned in to see based megaheel Vince getting his comeuppance, not to see that texas retard.

Ken Shamrock could have replaced Austin and it still would have drawn as much.

8/10 you made me respond

Hi Austin! Beat up any women lately? Anyone with a brain knows Vince was the true draw

What? He lost a billion times on Summerslam to different people clean.

He was back when he was Super Cena, a decade ago. I don't blame him personally, though, it's just classic Vince McMahon booking. He doesn't know how to do it any other way.

Holy worked bud, just admit Big Dick Devitt is over, popular, sella merch, slays pussy, and deserves his success.

did y'all forget about this meme

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Hi Ferg

LMAOOOOOO stone cold is the goat and hollycuck hulk chokin fuckin sucks.

He put Carder over big time

the fuck you talking about
in the past few years he's put over owens, AJ, del rio, ambrose, taker, nakamura and roman all clean. probably more that i'm forgetting too
it's gotten to the point where the winner doesn't even get a rub any more because he's basically just a jobber now

I remember Vince punishing Nakamura continuously for over a year due to Cena over-rotating on a supex

Not an argument

did everyone forget he put over Becky? Just like Edge did

>Owens
No
>AJ
No
>Del Rio
No
>Ambrose
When?
>Taker
Yes that young up and comer
>Nakamura
I’ll give you that
>Roman
After burying him on the mic several times
Losing once and then winning 60000000000 times after that is not putting some one over

I always thought it was weird how he just kind of faded away to no fanfare... at first I expected him to return at some point as a top guy but no.. he just part timed some shit and basically stopped

Agreed, for the top guy of the last decade he didn't really go out with much of a bang. There was the shitty marriage tag match at Mania followed up by the (official) unofficially scheduled Taker match which was treated really weird, and then it's like he disappeared from a Thanos snap

It doesn't matter if he put any of those guys over. those guys aren't fucking stars. do you think Cena jobbing to Kevin owens will suddenly make him a house hold name? it wouldn't, he's a fat sack of shit and nobody takes him seriously.

Cena is miles ahead of any of those faggots and him putting them over wouldn't change the fact they are dimesless simps

people known to be buried by cena:

- kenny dykstra
- alex riley
- nxt season 1
- tyler reks

who else?

>Cena's bloody decade long reign of terror led to not on wrestler in a generation becoming anything resembling a star at this company.

if there were "stars" not only would they have been able to out draw Cena but losing wouldn't have effected them in any way.

name one

Anyone he put down in his prime years deserved being buried.

exactly

good let him leave. i heard somewhere he's a racist and a sexist

It could have led to him becoming a household name, but we will never know because of a faggotty self Mark refusing to put him over

Ryback
Mickie James when they broke up
Charlotte due to his relationship with Nikki

He put over a young up and coming Undertaker in his last mania match

>DBry
>Doesn't recall it

The result of that match gave him the main title of the main brand and legitimised the running knee as a finisher by having him beat Cena with ONE in an era where needing three finishers in a row to beat someone is commonplace. What happened after this match, a match they both played out to make Bryan look as legitimate as possible, is down to creative, which is down to Vince, who is a nigh senile man at this point who's main interests are money, tall defined body builders and steaks. D-Bry being a short guy by WWE standards and a vegan at the time

>It could have led to him becoming a household name

he's never been a meaningful draw anywhere, when he was in nxt they were still losing profits but your telling me if he got one more win suddenly that would change. delusional

if he got a win over cena. it wouldve been fucking big. he wouldve be elevated to the next level and could've gave wwe more casual fans

miz when he tried to brain him at WM

>it wouldve been fucking big
It's just fake fighting, ya simp. Calm down.

Maybe cena was busy with chink movies so that match at no mercy was the only time he had a few weeks free?

Seriously his last tv appearance was putting over Becky before Mania how does no one remember this?

everyone forgets how he put over alberto del rio in his return match, probably because it was meaningless because they did nothing with del rio afterward

Based?

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I don't watch weeklies so no

Cena lost so much that beating him meant nothing these last two years

He got pinned by Finn clean after that so he could get the Lesnar match

>No
what do you mean?
cena lost to all those guys clean and it damaged him badly. you can't just say "no" and pretend it never happened.

When you lay it out like that Cena always buried people who deserved it.

>if he got a win over cena.
he did, nothing changed

>could've gave wwe more casual fans
all of Owens fans are already watching him, he's got no appeal outside of smarks

>he wouldve be elevated to the next level
go back

Cena is the main reason WWE is in the state its in today

NO
WWE is trash now because of trash talent and shitty writers. Cena is the only thing that kept it alive and sightly relevant. Since he's the only guy who is mildly known outside the wrestling bubble

this, one could argue he really didn't put owens or styles over because he beat them later but adr basically squashed him clean as a whistle and cena never got his win back
of course adr's push went nowhere

It depends on how you look at it. It's more like he was one of the main tools used by a completely fucked up system.

He out over plenty of people on his way out. Owens, Styles, Del Rio come to mind. I'm sure there's more I'm missing.

He got all of those guys over and they were better coming out of feuds with him.

He put AJ over

>they were better coming out of feuds with him
To lose inmediately and lose all momentum in less than a month

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Finn pinned him en route to the Royal Rumble (where he lost to Brock lol)

That's on Vince's booking, you're an idiot to think Cena has anything to do with post-feud booking

Its funny how marks say they want top guys to lose all the time but went gaga for Okada dominating for 2 years. Cena lost too much, not too little(!!!) WWE made the same mistake with Cena, that the NWA made with Flair.

When Muchnick was booking Flair he was the unbeatable champion and guys got over just by coming close to beating him. Then when Sam retired, he dropped the title almost every year and by the end of it his drawing power was greatly diminished. Feuding with Flair did nothing for Luger and Sting after that.

When Cena was first getting the big push he had 2 long reigns where he was unbeatable and beat lots of name contenders from the attitude era. The end result was that Cena drew huge, and guys like Edge and Orton got over big feuding with him. Then he started dropping the title constantly, losing to geeks like Sheamus. Punk beating Cena in 2011 was meaningless because Cena had literally lost to The Miz 2 months earlier.

If Cena had 4 reigns lasting 2.5 years each he would have been a bigger draw, and the four guys who beat him would have been major stars. Instead he has 16 reigns, and none of the 17 guys who beat him can draw money.

all they said was that they got a clean win. maybe you just have poor reading comprehension

Cena is a huge part of why WWE is where it is right now. His backstage maneuvering to preserve his spot and keep developing stars down severely damaged the product and WWE is still suffering. Cena makes Hulk Hogan look like an amateur.

He doesn't make Hulk Hogan look like an amateur because Hogan was never trying to do that. 18+

he constantly buried all of that talent.

go back and watch 2010 WWE. He buried every single guy on the roster. He didn't start putting people over until the pipe bomb promo in 2011.

In 2010 John Cena lost singles matches to Sheamus, Randy Orton, Edge, Wade Barrett and The Miz. The top guy shouldn't be losing to 5 different guys in a calender year. Cena wasn't booked anywhere near as strong as he should have because WWE got bogged down in the retarded idea that top guys can lose all the time if they have an excuse.

based and truthpilled

the more you lose, the less it means

On his way out he clearly put over AJ Styles at Summerslam 2016, then whenever he came back he was losing to some other talentless schmuck with no charisma

>AJ Styles at Summerslam 2016
John put AJ over super hard in that match especially when Cena did the spot where AJ kicked out of Cena's finisher after it had been done multiple times and Cena reacted the way people react to him when he kicks out of their finishers he just had a look of disbelief.

Yea and what he did after the match was pure kino, the way he took off his armband and left it, even Taker copied it after he lost to Reigns at Mania

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