>98k buyrate
>only 8k more than WWE's lowest non-WWE Network era buyrate December to Dismember
98k buyrate
after all that buildup? gotta be considered a disaster considering there's not a chance in hell they match it for the august show
for a first show with no TV promoting it that's great.
Also take into fact that the PPV model is dying.
98k buyrate is fucking excellent for a show like this though.
>$50 a pop
>no TV
>first ever show
How is this a bad thing?
>the PPV model is dying
What? The PPV record has been broken multiple times in the last few years.
How is that a fucking disaster? They handily beat the last UFC show and UFC is a mega popular brand with 15 years experience. AEW wasn't even a thing a few months ago. AEW has NO TV and relies on Twitter and Youtube. That's it. And you're trying to spin 100,000 buys as a failure?
It's typical E Drone cope
Oh look another thread where e-drones pretend that, with the current PPV market and no TV to promote it, doing 100K buys is bad.
because this is going to be their peak.
The novelty it's no there anymore
98k is not the buy rate.
98k was total viewers.
You dum.
It's the reason why the WWE switched to the network. The last two UFC PPV's did around 100k.
Over all the PPV average is going down not up even though records sometimes getting broken. Kind of whats happening in film with the box office records are being broken but the averages are going down.
>pretend
Ok you got me there. It is straight up bad
it wasn’t $50 a pop though. That was in one region. It was €£$20 elsewhere. why do you cultists keep pushing this misinformation....oh I know why
Seething. 2/3 of all sales were based in the US.
AEWHO BTFO!
Ok, let's play a game.
What percentage of the PPVs were purchased in USA?
>How is this a bad thing?
smarks are going to run out of NEETbux
>The last two UFC PPV's did around 100k.
Oh and here I thought 'they beat them handily'.
AEW drones are ridiculous. Aparrently PPV is dead in the water so 100k is secretly a good number despite shows doing literal millions of buys RECENTLY and apparently the show wasn't promoted whatsoever despite them getting mentioned on shoot sports broadcasts and every journalist shilling the promotion as hard as possible because it caters to smart fans and that's where they make their money.
Didn’t pay for this because I didn’t know what to expect. If next show is same price, around £15. I’ll probs go half’s with my wrestle bro. We pay for every Impact show.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
AEWTISTS BTFO!
IF YOU ENJOY WATCHING THIS TRAIN WRECK UNFOLD GIMME A HELL YEAH
>Wrestling
>PPV in the digital era
>First show of a new promotion with literal who roster
>Too expensive
98k is an excellent result. Probably they wasn't thinking about get more than 50k.
Imagine trying to spin 100k buys as a negative. Get a fucking grip.
>AEW drones are ridiculous
>Oh and here I thought 'they beat them handily'.
>I never posted that
>AEW drones are ridiculous
First it was 200k
Now it's 100k
Wouldn't be surprised if it's 50k tomorrow
I can't tell if people are working the retard gimmick or if it's their shoot life bros
>first it was 200k
Congratulations, you were unironically worked by an Yea Forumsie. Go back, summerfriend.
Dave meltzer was projecting 200k wasnt he?
No. He said he expected between 50,000 to 150,000.
meltzer said 200k but he was talking about the google trends.
>It is straight up bad
98k is great.
We also know that zero casuals ordered this. That’s a number that reflects fatsos and shut-ins that couldn’t go to Vegas.
No.
Learn to read.
He said there were 220k bullshit things in google trends.
Nobody expected 200k.
50k was a realistic shot.
oh
Classic Meltzer misleading
>unironically watching wrestling
Hard to guess.
>“On Saturday night after the show when we mentioned that it did 200,000 searches on Google somehow this got translated into 200,000 buys on pay-per-view. It did not do that. That number would be ridiculous. You know I don’t know because of Memorial Day and it being Wednesday I don’t know any pay-per-view numbers for television whatsoever. I know streaming numbers. Streaming numbers were very good, but not like you’re going to do 200,000 total buys.”
“I don’t want to throw out a number, but it will easily, easily beat ALL IN which was the goal to beat ALL IN and that’s a guarantee.”
most fans live in horrendous trumpfs america economy,not everyone can just drop 60$ dollars for a ppv,especially after the orange trade war with china
Yes it’s horrendous
Looks at the rest of the world
Yeah, it’s still better here
>all these retards saying it's the first show
I know All-In was shit, but we can't ignore it. inb4 they weren't AEW back then, they basically were in all but name.
Anybody that thinks that’s a bad number is a fucking idiot.
It's a bad number, sorry AEWtist.
next will be "first TV show"
then will be "first PPV after TV"
then...
>admitting you’re an idiot
Based E Drone
are the AEWhos coping yet?
>Be fucking retarded
>it-it's all meltzer's fault!
No, you're just a fucking retard and you have trouble understanding even the most basic of things.
Actually spazdick a lot of "news sites" were running with the 200k buyrate story if you google dave meltzer 200k AEW the first result for me at least was a whatculture story that redirects to page missing now but runs the headline
>AEW Double Or Nothing "Beats 200k Buys"
That's why UFC went ESPN exclusive and Canelo is on Dazn
And how is any of that Meltzers fault? It’s actually fucking embarrassing that other wrestling journalists write articles about Meltzers scoops.
UFC ppvs are on espn +
>Going to CuckCulture and 'news sites' for buyrates
You only have yourself to blame nimrod
Point is its not really anons fault for thinking thats what dave meltzer said when retards are running around writing articles saying DAVE MELTZER PREDICTS 200k BUYRATES.
Its all fake news from a bunch of neckbeards 40 year old virgin wrestling fans anyway.
I didnt I read Yea Forums and didn't really care one way or the other I just wanted someone to talk to I'm very lonely.
because he is misleading on purpose
Literally who talks about google trends instead?
And you just showed how retarded you really are.
>ITT: Seething console war fanboys arguing over some companies fake fighting buyrates.
Get over yourselves, accept wrestling is fake and move on with your lives.
worked
Considering they have no TV yet, that's pretty decent.
>Literally who talks about google trends instead?
He does. A lot. For some reason his autistic brain gives him pleasure when he sees numbers.
Get the fuck out of here you cock sucking nigger
It's better than what I predicted. But Elite always overdeliver on my predictions.
I don't udnerstand where their fans really are. I don't get the appeal. But there it is.
Don't know why.
Anti Elite stans (and puro Twitter) are a vocal minority. They just got BTFO big time.
From the FB groups I lurk, there is overwhelming positivity about AEW. They WANT so badly some american wrestling that looks major league.
Lot of them never tried anything else but WCW or WWE. Even when given links to matches or big shows, they never tried anything.
And bizzarly, they watched only Jericho vs. Naito from this WK. Or Jericho vs. Omega from the last year. They are truly e-drones. And they are not willing to try anything else. So they were blown away by STRONGHEARTS and by joshis. Because they have never really seen anything like it.
>vocal minority
kek your promotion didn't even do 100k buys dude
>it only made several million dollars
what a fucking failure
>sega dreamcast supporter complains about console wars
How much subs does NJPWorld have again?
This
you tell me
Less than 100k if we only count the west.
>if we only count the west
lol
what does njpw have to do with anything again?
you're still the vocal minority
>100k buys without weekly tv and only a youtube show
>Vocal minority
Cope harder John.
ECWs most bought PPV ever (before WWE owned them) did like 99k buys. So for AEW to almost match that with no TV and almost no traditional advertising is impressive.
ECW had much higher competition.
UFC is no longer mega popular, they have been in a slump since Ronda got beat, Lesnar isn't there, Connor isn't there, etc... The second Punk fight also didn't draw so they lost money on him.
And in an era when wrestling is super cold and just starting to rise up as this weird underground shit for hipsters to attend from time to time and get high there.
you know it's true though
that's why you need to resort to memes and pushing this narrative lol
that's assuming this number is even real too
200k yesterday, 100k today. what's it going to be tomorrow?
Ok ok we heard you the first 50 times
Kys JAAAHN.
i have defeated you
ECW wasn't 'competing' in fucking 97 dude. It was its own unique product, since this was before the other companies were ripping off all its trademarks and signing its stars.
>UFC is a mega popular brand
you just wake up from a coma?
Actual e-drone cope is the saddest shit on this entire site.
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100k in this environment is still not a bad draw
Wrestling viewership was also like 5x what it is now.
Thread full of cultist cope.
Not going to grab the digits for every post but it’s comical how often Nick and Cody are in here trying to cope. Cody enjoy your vacation and stay off your phone man
>inb4 they weren't AEW back then, they basically were in all but name.
There is no way you can give AEW full credit for that show.
Yes you can. Bucks and Cody booked the entire card. They just asked ROH and NJPW permission first.
Lol it was an AEW show where they tricked ROH into letting them use their infrastructure and some talent as a dry run. If All In at the Sears center wasn’t AEW why is All Out at the Sears Center happening?
We did it A-chads.
>98k
Little leagues
This shows us how many chads have disposable income to spare compared to the number of lonely autists screeching on Yea Forums while watching the WWE Network.
It was an ROH/NJPW show and NJPW drew the house. AEW is a failed copy.
based logic poster has user in a headlock
HAHAHAHAHAHA JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST
And the show was shit, it's all goes down from here for wreddit
cope
>98k buyrate
>Meltzer reported it was 200k the day after the show
>P-P-P-P-Plans change
>That'll be $11.99
>>Meltzer reported it was 200k the day after the show
He did not.
>Meltzer reported it was 200k the day after the show
based retard user getting worked by Meltzerposting
He said it was 200,000 google searches. No clue why you thought those were buys.
lol at believing everything you read on here
Because he said they were. He backtracked later and said that's what he was talking about, but originally 200k was his estimate. Many people took this from what he said, which is why multiple news sources reported it. It was all part of him trying to embellish the success of the show for his fuck buddies the "Elite".
These things usually estimate very generously, so expect the numbers to be slightly below 98K
You brainlets are all getting worked by terrible bait
You just know all these AEW tards have flown in from reddit. Look at how easily they get worked.
Anybody who understands the wrestling and PPV industries knows this was not a good number. There can't be any doubt that AEW is not taking off like they wanted. Their social media numbers are disappointing too. Not bad news, but not good news.
whatculture.com/wwe/aew-double-or-nothing-34-beats-200k-buys-34
Samefag.
this “report” was posted here and celebrated by the very same aewtists that are denying it here
Dear user, who is posting it was 200k. Nobody believed in here who has more than 2 braincells and was not worked by shitposting that it was 200k. Because that is an insane number for first show and makes no sense.
>15 years experience
Based zoomer with the bad numbers - UFC 1 was in 1993 and drew an 86,000 buyrate.
98k not 100k idiot
People are too used to WWE’s 9.99
Also willing to shell out 50 bucks for a show that has such a bad pre-show?
Pre-show was shit. pure shit. It made no sense and they were lucky a lot of people already bought the show. If you were lapssed fan and went onto some wrestling newz website to read about Undertaker vs. Goldberg and saw that there is a new promotion that will be on PPV, you'd read more about it.
Than you go and check out the pre-show before commiting. AND THEN THE PRE-SHOW IS FUCKING SHIT. Why would you pay them the money? After that awful thing?
...
Just goes to show that they have a base rate of 98K e-drones supporting them. Have you thank Vince and the e-drones for helping you draw the house?
>98k buys
>98k viewers on their first televised show
Are you ready to get the tarps out for AEW?
All in drew about 55.000
as far as I am concerned they almost doubled their audience with nothing but viral marketing and no tv show.
meanwhile ROH and TNA never made these kinds of numbers even during their greatest heights.
did you guys really think they'd topple WWE over night?
a number close to 100k has to be considered a great success under the circumstances, including general desinterest in wrestling and declining ppv numbers.
Sasuga, reddit spacing-kun
>DoN add at apehoop game
Omg yassss we taking over. We mainstream now. 500k buys incoming
>Not even 100k
Dude there was no tv promo! Lol
It hasn't been a week and you're already COPING
As Cornette said, give it 6 months and AEW will FOLD
>General deinterest in wrestling
Based AEWtist even recognizing the current landscape of pro wrestling and basically this is the highest they will go.
Cope and liarpilled
>Higher buys than WCW
>Failure
Laffin!
>comparing one ad to have a weekly show that constantly promotes your event
you can't be this stupid?
I dont see how this number is a negative
We rule this board now.
There is nothing you can do to stop us.
Keep crying, incel.
Hi Vincel
>comparing WWE's rapidly failing television show that's hemorrhaging viewers like AEW hemorrhages money to a paid advertisement during a shoot sports broadcast
kek this is actual cope
as far as I know AEW is growing acoring to plan. Better start than TNA had.
>one show
>they're growing
AEW fans will literally admit that they're losing money at a rate unprecedented for a wrestling promotion.
>cope
You didn't answer the question. Are you now implying that having a TV weekly program promoting your events wouldn't help?
That has always been the wrestling business model.
>Cornette
Not even once. In fact Cornette hating it is good for AEW
The only thing I'm implying is that you can suck my ding-dong diddly dick
>at a rate unprecedented for a wrestling promotion
you assholes write with astounding self-assurance about shit you know nothing about, as if you all were some kind of financial experts and had all the numbers of recent years at the ready
jesus christ
>wrestling media calling it a huge success
>normie media calling it a huge success and a new competitor to WWE
>massive buzz on social media
>show was sold out
>almost 100k PPV buys, far more than they expected to get, and with ZERO TV
>TNT executives extremely pleased
>ITV executives extremely pleased
>by every metric that anyone actually cares about it's a huge success
Meanwhile on Yea Forums:
>so what went wrong?
>why did it fail, guys?
>how much longer until AEW folds?
>when is Khan finally going to pull the plug?
>he drank the kool-aid
How much money are AEW making again? AEW fans literally admit they spent millions on Dean Ambrose alone.
>Polls say Hillary Clinton is a dead certainty to win
>Clinton presidency 99% guaranteed
Meanwhile on /pol/...
Yea Forums is a wwe safe space
>Meltzer fucking lied again
Someone call the fat ginger thread spammer, we've got a new line for him
A five year plan is in place, we won't know till then but so far all goals have been met.
>Aew fans will--
[citation needed]
Anyone saying it's bad is fucking dumb
Biggest ppv sales since the wcw days ( only topped by ecw biggest ppv in term of buys which did around the same numbers)
With no TV and build on YouTube.
Are you retarded? If anything TNT is shaking right now lol they might have hit jackpot
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Why'd ya quote and post a selfie of ya self, lil guy?
Yeah for sure man nobody even knew about AEW it's not like it's their second show or that they were pushed during sports and by every journalist that's conveniently good friends with the promoters or anything
isn't it kind of a bad business decision to start doing regular PPVs before the start of the actual weeklies?
Just because you are very much into the Internet Wrestling Community doesn't mean others are. You being a smark doesn't make everyone a smark.
We all know that 100k is a success, you are just trying to make it like it isn't.
You are probably on here talking about that mythical casual fan, right? How that person would be able to know about this, also how that person would have bought the show after seeing the terrible pre-show.
100k basically pre-orderdered it. It makes their floor 100k people. Which is much more than I anticipated. I was willing to say that 50k is a success, if that number came out. 100k? That¨s twice as much.
It is and at the same time it is not.
If you have been here from the time they announced the promotion (January 6th), you¨d know that for 2 months all the posts about AEW were
>What's their roster
>Where are the stars
>When is the first show
>Where is the TV deal
>When the TV series starts
>Where are the fans
>Sub 10k PPV buys
>No stories
etc.
They had to have a show. A big one.
Not before Wrestlemania, that was too soon and if WWE had a super hot program going into WM, it would have stolen AEW thunder.
It also couldn't have been immedietly after WM, because lot of the people who were at WM are the same people who would fly to Las Vegas for the show.
End of May was almost perfect, because they have known they want to have another big show at the end of August, one year after ALL IN.
You didn't listen to him then. Never once did that autistic sumbitch say that.
It's not, it's actually great for their first show. E-Drones are just retarded and can't do math.
Ya seethe?