NJPW is seething at AEW

Did you guys watched the Juice Robinson press conference? They did all they could to avoid name dropping Moxley at Double or Nothing.

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OP is a faggot

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>Proving my point
They didnt mention him at DoN or AEW at all.

Good, they fucked them over so hard last year and now AEW realizes they have no stars and is desperate for New Japan to lend their guys. Fuck em, let the GayEW fans enjoy their trannies and womeme independent of the real stars

>Sold out in 4 minutes
>Moxley return has 2 million views on youtube
>Name dropped on RAW
>Cover of Weekly Puroresu already
Kys

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>muh revenue and views
This sounds like the argument e-drones make when people call the product shit.
And almost like a cope since you know AEW has no great wrestlers like New Japan so you will be watching a much shittier product. Why not just enjoy New Japan if you care about great matches and wrestlers that much?

Wow

what did they think mox would sign with them?? that doesn't even make sense. pretty sure they arent mentioning it rn due to ROH still being involved in the picture

Mox did sign with them. He has a match on the 5th.

but to what degree then because he's signed to AEW and that was confirmed

>no great wrestlers like New Japan
lel they can’t be great if all their matches are overly long borefests every night

Dat subjective viewpoint

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why the fuck would they mention DoN exactly? Okada watched and acknowledged it on Twitter, now we move on and that's it. You're a retard OP.

Kek look at this fucking autistic retard

serious question. If you are just a fan and not a stockholder(NJPW isnt public anyway) why would you even WANT AEW to be involved? Kenny, Cody, the bucks and Hangman were easily the worst parts of 2018 NJPW. They never showed up, most of the time their matches were worse than their previous efforts, and Kennys IWGP HW title run was the worst in years. He had two shitty Cody defenses(one where they drew less than EVIL/Okada even when Kota was involved), and his worst Ishii match was a title defense too.
They have a good balance of talent right now, no need to introduce guys that work 10 dates a year to fuck it all up again.

Mox is signed to a multi year deal with AEW. Tony Khan just allowed him to do certain dates when the schedule is light. Tony is the one helping NJPW getting a bump on subscriptions.

Because it was Moxley first appearence since leaving WWE and appearing on a big stage. Plus it was literally 2 days ago.

I think Japan are marks for gaijins. Im not a fan of njpw because these guys just mess up the storylines there. With that being said njpw sucks at telling stories

>Not a stockholder
Best wrestler of 2018, best tag team, best match. Ranked first on PWI. Had three companies bending over him. That without mention that 2018 was NJPW most profittable year ever (Bushoriad era).

go back to twitter faggot

>With that being said njpw sucks at telling stories
they tell great subtle realistic stories all the time

Why would they mention his appearance at Double or Nothing? AEW and NJPW aren't partners.

>Best wrestler of 2018
Tanahashi
>best tag team
Violent Giants
>best match
Tanahashi/Ibushi G1 final
nice argument, but I dont use it.

Talenberry!

>gook shit
I don’t care because I have a soul

You new japan marks are starting to sound like the e-drones that you critice. New Japan OFFICE is PETTY as fuck. They refuse to mention anything that is direct competition to them. Jericho said the same thing before AEW even started. Kenny said that the office got mad when him and Ibushi outdrew Okada and Tanahashi and started to give away tickets to not look bad.

Just to make it more clear. Juice name dropped Cody during the press conference and the translator didn't even translated that.

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>since leaving WWE
right which they acknowledged, "former WWE superstar" is much bigger than "AEW's newest signing" ya dumb mark

Someone post the Kenny Omega Japanese awards pasta and BTFO this puro autist.

New Japan fans don't want GayEW trannies, manlets, and womeme, they just want Kenny. And it works out fine since he can still wrestle for them without the need of partnering with the sjw fed.

You know that Kenny/Okada IV won best match of the year in Japan right?.

You shouldn't double down on something that's going to be proven wrong so soon.

If you want to argue awards, Kenny didnt win Best Wrestler last year. Tanahashi did. Obviously the person I replied to isnt arguing awards, because Kenny didnt win best wrestler 2018. Keep up retard.

I agree and was saying that on here for the longest. I just want to see what Mox can do in New Japan, Kenny to face Kota on a big final boss type shit stage, and for NJPW to get real American exposure.

Michael Craven literally acknowledged them yesterday. Keep up dronie.

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>Weekly puroresu cover on their first show
>Had a ton of PPV buys in Japan (Top 4)
>Hasn't read the youtube/Twitter comments about the nips wanting AEW to parner with NJPW.

Once again the western fan point of view differs from the local fan..

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>They refuse to mention anything that is direct competition to them
they mention WWE constantly, they mention other Japanese promotions and work with other Japanese promotions, what on earth are you babbling about?
>K-K-Kenny said
you mean the guy who's got it in his contract that he can still work New Japan? Objectively worked.
>Cody
>Translate
kek

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nice contrarian choices autist

The MVP award is a populaty contest. Naito won it the year that Okada had the goat run.

Tanahashi didn't do shit the first half of the year. Kenny had the Jericho match, The Golven Lovers run, The Okada match and a better G1 than Tanahashi. Tanahashi only had two great matches in 2018. The Okada one and the Ibushi final.

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Don't care, New Japan has the best roster in the world by a mile, AEW has Kenny and nobody else. No brainer on which one I'll be watching.
I'm sorry that your nu-WWE isn't gonna have any 6 star matches but nothings stopping you from just watching NJPW if you want to see that.

>STORIES IN PRO WRESTLING MUST BE TOLD THROUGH IN-RING PROMOS AND BACKSTAGE SEGMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why didnt Kenny win most technical then?

Wrestler of The Decade

eat shit.

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undeniably fucking based
The Ace is true a once in a century talent.

>Works with other japanese promotions
Name the last cross promotion show with japanese companies beside gimmicks shows like the Baba memorial. You also seem to forget how NJPW tried to bury DDT years ago.
>Mentions WWE
WWE isn't competition to NJPW. Same way that NJPW isn't competition to WWE.

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Because they had to give Naito some award.
>WON meme awards

Based. Literally made ocarder, naitetty, and omemega.

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>Is gone for 5 months
>Already below 2 bingo hallers and a guy that has wrestled like 6 times in japan since 2016
1位 内藤哲也 (Tetsuya Naito) 14218p
2位 棚橋弘至 (Hiroshi Tanahashi) 13253p
3位 オカダ・カズチカ (Kazuchika Okada) 9082p
4位 SANADA 7097p
5位 飯伏幸太 (Kota Ibushi) 7072p
6位 高橋ヒロム (Hiromu Takahashi) 4594p
7位 丸藤正道 (Naomichi Marufuji - NOAH) 3239p
8位 黒潮“イケメン”二郎 (Kuroshiro "Ikemen" Jiro - Freelance) 3206p
9位 宮原健斗 (Kento Miyahara) 3064p
10位 中邑真輔 (Shinsuke Nakamura) 2870p
11位 ケニー・オメガ (Kenny Omega) 2542p
12位 鷹木信悟 (Shingo Takagi) 2466p
13位 岩谷麻優 (Mayu Iwatani - Stardom) 2190p
14位 獣神サンダー・ライガー (Jushin Thunder Liger) 2094p
15位 里歩 (Riho - Gatoh Move/AEW) 2086p
16位 中野たむ (Tam Nakano - Stardom) 2078p
17位 鈴木みのる (Minoru Suzuki) 2053p
18位 石井智宏 (Tomohiro Ishii) 2004p
19位 カイリ・セイン (Kairi Sane) 1804p
20位 タイチ (Taichi) 1608p

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Every Lion's Gate show had people from Japanese indies.
In like a week Ishii, Makabe and others are working an independent show.
I'm sure Ultimo Dragon and others will be facing Liger this year at the Tokyo Dome

>No Switchblade
OH NO NO NO

Never forget the way Tanahashi buried DDT.

New Japan have a history of being dicks.

This. They tried to bury DDT despite having a working relationship with them to rotate Ibushi. People seem to forget that NJPW is predatory as fuck. At WWE levels.

Which is why the AEW partnership isn't happening. They can't push them around and make them their personal slave like they do with ROH. They have no interest in a partner that they cant exploit.

>NJPW tried to bury DDT
is that why they worked with both Omega and Ibushi under duel contracts between NJPW and DDT, had Tanahashi work multiple DDT shows at the time?
>WWE isn't competition to NJPW
New Japan literally said they are their rival ya geek

Tanahashi went over two top DDT guys, then only took the loss in a tag match where he wasnt pinned.
They finessed the fuck out of DDT and Takagi hates their guts to this day for it.
Its probably part of the reason why DDT were so eager to work with AEW.

Based. Fuck tanahashitter.

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>is that why they worked with both Omega and Ibushi under duel contracts between NJPW and DDT,
And what was the end result of the dual contracts? Both guys ditching DDT to be NJPW exclusive.
>had Tanahashi work multiple DDT shows at the time?
And what was the end result of Tana working DDT? Him squashing their ace Harashima in a mediocre match and then basically calling him an indy yardtard that wouldn't make it in the big leagues in the promo afterwards.

Nah those comedy shitters deserved it. Look how stagnant they have been and how they squandered all their potential growth.
The most interesting thing DDT have done in the past 3 years was that empty arena Dome match.

>DDT fags seething at the GOAT
>he b-b-b-buried are Japanese indy shitters
Based. GO ACE!

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Where was that Kenny said didn't like the office of New Japan. I remember also saying he was disappointed by their efforts in the US expansion.

NJPW and DDT had a relationship to share Kenny and Ibushi (More Ibushi than Kenny at that point). Then Tanahashi went over DDT top guys and then tried to poach DDT's current ACE to go to NJPW). Takagi learned about this and ended the deal.

lul this is the E drone equivalent to sucking gaytches dick

as if it wasn’t expected from fans of wwe japan

The interview with Meltzer when he signed with AEW.

BASED NJPW putting these unfunny shimoneta spammers on their place.

DDT is only a well known promotion because of Omega and Ibushi, not because they're a hugely successful promotion or moving big numbers, like New Japan is right now and has been doing (with or without Omega and Ibushi) for many years, keep seething baka.

>wwe japan
coming from the DDT Sports Entertainment crowd, hilarious.

I agree but at the same time I don't understand why AEW is having such a good will with them. NJPW wants AEW toys but don't want to share theirs.

DDT is a parody of sports entertainment nujapanlet

>Newfags think that Tanahashi is universally loved in Japan.
Half of the promotions hate his guts for the things that he has said about the independent scene in Japan. Sure, he saved NJPW but he burned a lot of bridges on his way.

Enough. You will bow to God.

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WWE Japan in terms of carny shit. The boys are cool with other wrestlers (except Tana) but the office is Vince level of petty.

>good will
they literally signed trent after he had verbally commited to NJPW, and they tried to sign Juice after they built him from absolutely nothing. And its because Okada would have recieved a pop bigger than anyone else on the show if he was there.

its obvious why, New Japan has most of the best wrestlers in the world and everyone knows it. Who's Kenny gonna face after Jericho that will be a bigtime match? In particular they want to do Omega matches with Okada and Ibushi to draw money and headline a huge show. Which is quite funny thinking New Japan will allow a promotion that isn't themselves to do those matches.

Tony is too nice a guy and is trying to offer the best platform for wrestling. But the old farts in the New Japan office have the same mindset as Vince and WWE

Wrong. This is the same issue with cmll and AAA in Mexico. The wrestlers realized they are the draws and don't need any particular company. Omega, moxley, the young bucks, Jericho and Pentagon don't need any company. There will always be companies that want to use them. They're going to go with what they think is best for them and who will give them more money and exposure. Right now NJPW is in a great position because they're the number one workmate company in the world. If you can prove yourself there you'll have open doors everywhere. Once okada and Naito want to have the ability to take bookings from aew or even fucking wwe then njpw will have to change but in the mean time they hold the cards

zoom zoom

Legitimately, what the fuck is NJPW's problem with AEW? AEW's already proving itself to be incredibly popular in Japan. AEW has many former stars from NJPW and even a Joshi division. Shouldn't a Japanese company, like NJPW, see potential in AEW as a Western partner? Why isn't NJPW scrambling to partner up with AEW already, they're already using Jericho and Moxley and they'll use Omega soon, too.

I honestly think it all depends on how well the G1 in Dallas does, assuming they put Omega, Moxley and Jericho on the card. If they put all 3 on the card and sell the bitch out or even come close to selling it out, then NJPW might go "Okay, fuck it. Let's partner up then."

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You know that Trent quit NJPW because he is loyal to Chuckie T and NJPW didn't want to do anything big with him right? (Chuck). Juice contract was up. Of course they would offer him a contract. It's not the same thing that Tanahashi did to DDT for example.

>15 - Riho (Gatoh Move)

FUCKING BASED

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This is just how NJPW is. Now you more casual fans will learn why call them the WWE of Japan. Us indie puro fans know these. We've seen them raid though and bury NOAH, Dragon Gate and DDT.

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BAAAAASED

NJPW contracts don't allow their wrestlers to work somewhere else that NJPW doesn't aprove. They didn't want Elgin to work with Impact for example.

G1 Dallas isn't selling well because its in Dallas, not because Kenny is gone. If it was in Chicago or NY it would have sold out. Either way its not a big deal, they're not losing money when Mark Cuban is paying for them.
And you're a brainlet if you can't see why NJPW prefers to partner with ROH instead.

NOAH is extremely predatory, they and All Japan destroyed Osaka Pro. Thats just how business is, people want to make money. Stop seething at New Japan, every other promotion would do what they do if they were in the same position.

NJPW have no problem having their guys wrestle in other promotions Okada, Ibushi and Omega were at at "all in" Naito wrestle in places like Puerto Rico, Kojima did the job in front of 200 people in Mexico etc.

Yeah but when it's time to renegotiate what stops okada from saying he wants to take bookings in AEW or elsewhere or he walks because he knows he can get an offer from aew that allows him to work in japan? Hypothetical of course because I doubt okada would do something like that

Tony is a money mark with 0 understanding wrestling as a business.

Leverage. How is this so hard to understand? With ROH they hold all the cards, they get what they want when they want it, but with AEW they have less relative bargaining power. They are also probably waiting until their touring is established. Right now roh runs enough shows to give the Young Boys experience, AEW is going to have like 5 more major shows this year and some TV at the end. Why jump in and drop the years long partnership when AEW are totally unproven as far as longevity goes. Also loyalty, it's the same reason that Okada will probably never leave NJPW, they covered the end of his training and pulled him out of abject poverty working for Ultimo in Japan. Staying loyal to international partners when they are on the downswing can help them.
To be honest I've enjoyed this year from NJ more than last year until now. I don't see the creative benefit in bringing in guys that are only going to be the for a few shows, it's boring and played out.

>Massive TNT deal
>AEW is the talk of the town
>Multiple celebrities talking about the show/company.

NJPW just doesn't care about any of that. They just want a slave like ROH.

cringe take your meds old man

NOAH and All Japan guys still do indies dumb fuck.

Ultimo in Mexico*

NJPW didn't wanted Okada to go to ALL IN. The bucks talked about this. They said that Okada told them that he was going by any means necesary. Ibushi was a free agent like Jericho and Moxley are now. NJPW isn't okay with a lot of promotions, especially now with ROH at risk of getting even more BTFO.

Japanese employers don't do that. They would do what the company tells them to do. If they disagree they left the company. That's what Misawa, Tenryu and others did back then.

*Abuses Miyahara so bad in K Office that he refuses to ever work with him again*
NJPW R THE BAD GUIZ

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The cucks talk a lot of crap about NJPW and a lot has proven wrong.

It's not about AEW sending guys to Japan. They don't benefit from that. It's about NJPW sending their top guys to prime time television.

>NJPW didn't wanted Okada to go to ALL IN. The bucks talked about this. They said that Okada told them that he was going by any means necesary.

Honestly, to anyone reading this or this thread, how can you possibly NOT love this man? This guy's a total Chad and he's incredibly based. What a good guy.

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This was during the ALL IN days. They had no reason to bad talk NJPW at that point.

He is. It's sad that he doesn't have any pull on the office decisions. He obviously likes his friends at AEW more than the ROH shitters.

They have always been marks for themselves.

When you prove it. You can be a mark for yourself all you want.

based. money and miles baby!

>Youtube
>RAW TV
>an actual physical magazine

Get with the times grandpa

>Ignores the sold out and the TV deal
Denial.

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Times are different. Masala and them only had the option to work in Japan. We're talking about someone with more leverage that is willing to work with you. Either njpw is going to have to pay a lot more or give in in some clauses

Thanks for proving my point matt or nick.

You idiots say this like it's a bad thing. This goes for real life too, if you're not a mark for yourself then you're living wrong. When you're killing it you should be the first one to know

You are welcome Harold. Have you thanked Jericho and Moxley for those ticket sales and NJPw numbers?.

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Harold is too bussy cosplaying ad selling teddy bears.

Name one single successful wrestler that didn't die broke that was not a mark for himself

Kane

Giant Baba.

Holy ding-dong diddly bases

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Eternal mid card shitter no one will remember in 10 years
Literally worked himself to death in his 60s, full mark

>Giant Baba
>Not a Mark
You know that he bought his NWA title reign right?.

Name one single successful promoter that was a mark for himself.

Dusty.

Vince

Bro....in this case it's new Japan using aew's top stars.....sorry bro.

Giant Baba, inoki, Vince. Was cornette successful? Again if you're not a self mark you're never going to make it big. You think ceos and presidents are humble people who keep their head down and just work hard? No nigger you look for any advantage you can get and when shit doesn't go your way you take your ball and go play somewhere else

But they just did that! You think Moxley Is gonna do what? He might work even 3 days a year. He is only able to work in others promotions when aew's schedule and Tony khan allow him to. Their TV show starts in October, what do you think will happen? He will be exactly like omega and co, A) because aew is his primary company B) because he wont have much time, same with Jericho. And if they put a title on him its gonna be worse.
Every new Japan fan should be against that trend of using people who have contract with bigger company or who can do whatever the fuck they want.

I think they legitimately believed he would be a njpw guy like okada and all the others for example. Aew didn't give anyone a clue they were signing the guy, I am almost sure they got absolutely blindsided here. Its painfully obvious.

Yeah I am pretty sure they didn't know Moxley would sign with aew, I am sure they wanted him to push their expansion. Now the only thing they will do is give aew more fans. Why? Because aew will present a very njpw-like product without the bareer of language and how weird njpw is presented. So basically the Moxley fan have no reason to stay for njpw and learn to adapt to the new Japan style when they can get Moxley in USA as an exclusive. Furthermore if he gets some Japanese fans , they will actually watch him in aew certainly and realise there is a product that mix njpw-like product with edginess and American badass shit...yikes I think the elite fucked them again

Kenny is the boss of said company...he will only do it if it helps His company you mongrel. He even said he is going to nuuu Japan only if it's a talent exchange.
And lately said he wants to reunite his whole band in aew and didn't asked ibushi to avoid messing with his IWGP projects..the dude has move on and is invested in his own company...lol

Dave talked a lot about this AEW/NJPW thing today. He said that NJPW acted weird during the negotiations in January and there's bitterness on both sides. He also said that he expects it to happen because is the most logical thing business wise but Japanese companies are loyal even if ROH sucks.

He also said that Moxley contacted AEW first and told NJPW to not announce anything until he debuted at DoN.

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Moxley is fucking shit. I do not want to see him wrestle in NJ

Bullshit, Aew sold out Vegas which is an even worse wrestling city , they did so in 4 minutes , something no one else ever did in history. Btfo with that

Can Okada convince those guys to let him wrestle in AEW a couple times per year?

Spot the new faggot. Dallas is a wrestling city (WCCW). The problem is that New Japan is cold af on the west right now.

Now you can add "have their promotion's name changed at Monday night raw"
"The big league wwe is see thing about them to the point they mentioned them by name, tried to copy their ppv with raw and actually gave jericho's new finisher to shane" appart from wcw no one in history ever did that.

None in NJPW roster has that kind of pull.

Jericho and Moxley arent free agent tho, they are both signed to multi years deals. But they can work whatever date they want until the TV starts in October.

"Dave thinks its gonna happen"
It's not happening , meltzer's random guesses based on nothing never come true. ( he is a great news provider tho).

Cool, so it's now confirmed his priority is clearly aew. Njpwfags can shut up now, that means most booking decisions will be checked by aew and will only be accepted if it fits their booking.
Njpwnetty worked themselves into a very weird situation.

If you think that Gedo and one of his best friends (Jericho) arent trying to pull some kind of deal you are retarded. It all up to Harold and Bushiroad.

Literally Pac 2.0 We will see if he ends up winning the title.

Hope Juice bury this simp

Why are the hotdogs marks fantasy-booking feuds with every promotion in the world? I mean how is NJPW seething for not mentioning that event exactly?

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Tana singlehandedly destroyed DDT I can't help but respect that