WWE in shambles

Notes on a conversation on PW Torch's post Raw show between Wade Keller and a caller who "is close with WWE writers"

As previously noted, Triple H recently liked and then un-liked a few tweets that were critical of the current WWE product.

There appears to be some real-life frustrations from Triple H and other people within WWE. A close friend of three WWE writers recently called into PWTorch.com's post-RAW podcast and discussed the WWE creative process. The writers had allegedly been drinking and vented to the caller about Vince McMahon.

Here is what the caller said about the criticism of WWE:

>“No one should rip on WWE creative. They have some of the most brilliant, unbelievable cool ideas that I’ve ever heard… We’re writing for an audience of one and never forget that [and if not] you’re out of here.”

>“The most frustrated person in the back every single night is Triple H. He’ll always take, especially the NXT guys, under his wing. It looks like he’s consoling them. It looks so much like he was the most frustrated person in the building every single night.”

Here are some additional notes from the caller courtesy of WrestlingNews.co:

>– The Wild Card Rule was not in the script on the morning of the show.

>– The Superstar Shake-Up changed week to week and it didn’t pan out how it was originally laid out months prior. Everything changed because Vince just decided to change it.

>– He talked about the turnover with so many backstage people quitting or being fired.

>– SmackDown and Raw writing teams are the same for both shows. They used to be separate but that changed recently after the Shake-Up.

>– The caller emphasized that the problems in WWE are not creative’s fault and Vince McMahon is the one person who deserves the blame.

>– Vince wants suggestions from everyone but it never gets on TV. 99 out of 100 times you can come up with an idea for Vince and it won’t be used.

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>– The entire creative team has pitched to have Raw and SmackDown look completely different with different production, a different way of shooting things, etc. and McMahon shoots it down.

>– Vince McMahon doesn’t keep track of what is going on with NXT. He “maybe” watches Takeover shows.

>– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

>– The writers say there is no chance of Vince stepping down.

>– Dana Brooke has been the hardest worker for the last 3 years. She goes to the Performance Center, she shows up early and helps set up the ring and she gets in the ring so she can get better. Creative will pitch something for her and she gets nothing up until recently with MITB.

>– The caller offered to tell Wade Keller off the air of some cool storylines that were pitched and never used.

>– The writer he talked to said, “we’re all working for Dana Warrior and it’s really awkward.”

>– The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.

>– One writer is very close to quitting because he is so “unbelievably unhappy” and many of the writers are paranoid and think they are close to being fired.

>– “It’s such a toxic atmosphere and it’s all because of one person.”

>– When Neville walked out, there was a crazy shouting match and he flipped out on Vince McMahon and that was the last time they saw him. The writers praised Neville for being so easy to work with.

>– Ideas never pan out as originally planned because writers will come up with stuff and then Vince loses interest after a week or two. He used Mojo Rawley as an example.

>– The money is good and it’s a dream job for many writers but it gets frustrating. The talent is very unhappy and people are trying to get out of their contracts.

>– The writers say Bruce Prichard is a pleasure to work with. “He’s a funny guy and a pleasure to work with but he’s not getting through to Vince either.”

>– Shane McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon have tried to talk to Vince but it hasn’t worked.

>– The people on the writing staff listens to podcasts and they hear fans bashing them. “It breaks their heart,” he said.

>– Vince is in the announcer’s ear “to a sentence” and he gets on them for tiny mistakes.

>– On Sami Zayn: “That’s not Sami Zayn’s promos. That’s Vince McMahon talking through Sami Zayn.”

>– There are 37 total writers and they are now working on both shows.

>– NBCUniversal and FOX both want the top stars.

>– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

>– The Firefly Fun House stuff is all Bray Wyatt’s idea. Bray is described is an “absolute genius” and he helps other wrestlers with their promos. “He’s one of the best guys in the locker room.”

>– The writers he talked to say they loved when there was a real brand split.

>– He mentioned The Revival/Usos storyline being done because Vince just thinks its funny."

Most of this can be assumed because Vince is in charge. But wow.

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didn't read all that stuff but hey here's one of those tweets mentioned at the start

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>There is no chance of Vince stepping down.

I can't believe that I'm about to say this bros,

But I want Vince to die

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>Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

BASED VINCE

So basically, Vince needs to die and Haitch needs to take the lead.

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>mfw OP probably had this fanfic pasta saved in word before pasting it over as a reply

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>Anonymous large nosed source states that all WWE problems are Vince's fault and that if Triple H (Paul Levesque) was in charge, things would be much better

>Dana Brooke has been the hardest worker for the last 3 years. She goes to the Performance Center, she shows up early and helps set up the ring and she gets in the ring so she can get better
Doubt

>ITS ALL VINCE
>PAPA HAITCH LOVES HIS NXT BABIES
>THE WRITERS ARE GOD TIER ITS JUST VINCE

Even that bit with Andrade tries to make it sound like "vince" is wrong, when he probably just saved his career.

>his source

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>When Neville walked out, there was a crazy shouting match and he flipped out on Vince McMahon and that was the last time they saw him.
i like to imagine that he literally started doing flips

>Wild Card wasn't in the script the morning of the show

Sure, thats why they spent the week hyping Roman being on RAW and literally cancelled a Smackdown house show so Kofi and Bryan could show up too. I mean there was no planning there whatsoever, right?

kek

>Bray is a genius
Wow I didn't know babbys first charismatic cult leader was something this unique

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WWE has been this way since the Attitude era

Gaytch will screw up the company on an entirely different level

>Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.
BASED

The only thing I'm getting from this is Vince saved Andrades career and he's bout to win MITB

fucking based vince

Them being on the show might've been planned sure, but the whole wild card stuff could've been made up just before the show started.

why does this whole thing just read like some full-blown smark pandering piece

>The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.
aewtists btfo

user, if they were going to have Smackdown guys show up to boost a rating, it likely wasn't going to be a one off. They already have the womemes champs on both brands. We have seen them being loose with the split since the Rumble

Everyone could have called something similar going down. Fuck, we did.

>The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.
E-CHADS MAKE SOME NOISE

Because it is.

The internet went from "Haitch has too much power and ego books himself" to "HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO SIT AND WATCH VINCE RAPE HIS BABIES" in a few years, solely because HHH hoards indie nerds and keeps them in NXT containment for Takeovers

>The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.
That's really interesting. I wonder can FOX just straight up cancel the show if it gets bad enough in that case?

Fucking kek, if that's true Fox is so fucking stupid. There's no way that's real.

I think we all knew Vince was the issue but this confirming it is unbelievable, he really needs to die or else WWE will die and AEW takes its spot or wrestling as a whole dies.

based hunter trying to save wwe from senile vince

>– SmackDown and Raw writing teams are the same for both shows. They used to be separate but that changed recently after the Shake-Up.
>– NBCUniversal and FOX both want the top stars.
Brand split confirmed ending soon

TICK TOCK, OLD MAN. HOPE YOU'RE EATING HEALTHY CAUSE TOMORROW YOU'RE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING

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wwe just signed a big money contract with FOX.

so how are they falling apart?

>Triple H recently liked and then un-liked a few tweets that were critical of the current WWE product.

this is 100% them setting up another mcmahon vs mcmahon storyline

>I think we all knew Vince was the issue
Vince is the hero, trying to save his company from the bullshit no dimes stuff Haitch is pulling with NXT

>Vince goes against everything he stands for to deliver the Kofi/Becky/Seth wins with women main eventing because thats what people supposedly want
>"Its his fault this is bad"

>creative tries to shift blame

Right? Ultimately, prowrestling is dead. Doesn't matter what Vince does. Appease the fans. Do what he wants. It doesn't matter.

Wrestling is dead and fans just want someone to blame.

Have you actually read any of the claims above? It clearly IS on Vince. Just because he pushed Kofi/Becky/Seth does NOT make up for all the other absolute dog shit that makes it to WWE tv every single week.

>50/50 booking
>Garbage storylines
>Other storylines being nonsensically changed, or completely dropped without notice
>Every other storyline revolving around the McMahons
>Baffling attempts at humor
>Overlong RAW
>The titles mean NOTHING
>The brand split means NOTHING
>Everyone is either a white meat baby face, or a chickenshit heel. There is no middle ground anymore

And I could go on. But no, it's not his fault solely because Vince pushed the flavour of the month talent this one time.

on one hand there is no point to everything, on the other fox bought a sports show and wants wwe to become that

>trying to save his company from the bullshit no dimes stuff
They've been losing dimes and viewers since 2001 dumbass, NXT is not there to profit it's to train and bring up new stars which is working out well.

pushing those 3 is dogshit

becky is fine but still

NXT might be the biggest reason many people are subbed to the network, its definitly more than WWE ever intended

>which is working out well
Signing every indie shitter that Reddit marks over isn't "doing well". They haven't produced their own talent in a long time.

>– The writers say Bruce Prichard is a pleasure to work with. “He’s a funny guy and a pleasure to work with but he’s not getting through to Vince either.”
Based Bruce. Too bad he's not able to get through to Vince. Maybe they should bring Pat Patterson in for a day to talk to Vince but I don't think anyone will change his mind.

Everything you listed sounds like smark word vomit. The niggas who complain about 50/50 booking are the FIRST to bitch when Roman doesn't lose enough, and did the same shit with Cena, or literally anyone who actually gets a push. The titles mean NOTHING apparently, yet everyone was fully into Kofi beating Bryan when the time came. Clearly it meant something, right?

Just admit, everything they asked for they got and the ratings dropped, so the only way to shift blame is Vince, like always.

Roman Reigns, Strowman, Enzo & Cass, Velveteen Dream, Lars Sullivan, etc

>NXT is not there to profit it's to train and bring up new stars which is working out well
Its not

He has literally built the brand around a guy thats not going to be shit on the main roster or get to wrestle the type of matches he wrestles there. There is little to no actual preparation for the future. EVERYTHING is built around getting star ratings at Takeover

>>>– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.

BASES

>The niggas who complain about 50/50 booking are the FIRST to bitch when Roman doesn't lose enough
What's wrong with Roman is his stale babyface character. I personally couldn't give a shit if he won every match ever, but I don't buy his bland forgettable promos.

>yet everyone was fully into Kofi beating Bryan when the time came.
And people are over it already. What does that tell you? That WWE cannot maintain an audience.

>doesn't watch NXT
>shitposts irl
>tells spics to learn english

BASES

Nevi... Neville stop, let's discuss things like adu...
Stop doing that Nev... NEVILLE STOP IT GOD DAMN IT!

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>“learn some English and get back to me.”
cancel Vince McMahon

Why is Vince such a racist?

What are these "great ideas" that Vince is supposedly stifling? If Smackdown Live was any indication the writers are just as milquetoast as he is.

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I can believe this but bitch needs to work smarter, not harder on the main roster to get to old man Vince. The shit she's doing right now would be a good idea if she's preparing for a jump to another promotion though

YOWIE WOWIE! I do too user.

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To be completely fair there was a brief period post-split where SDL had some nice angles here and there like Slater/Rhyno and Miz/Ziggler that levied genuine support from the fans.
That was probably before Vince got as involved as he is with Raw.

Why would Vince trust Triple H?

Literally since he became a "main event" guy he has been directly responsible for ratings falling like a rock. When he booked himself to be "The Guy" on Raw in the early 2000s it was completely unwatchable. Look at how many careers he has buried with his dumbass shit. Look at the shitters he has tried to push as being top stars.

He couldn't even book a half assed decent feud with Batista. Triple H can't even get a real pop out of Ric Flair and actual movie star Batista for a "blood feud". The arena was 100% dead while he rolled down the entrance ramp in that fagwagon.

Agreed, sounds like a crock of shit to me, especially not mentioning fucking CM Punk.

>The entire creative team has pitched to have Raw and SmackDown look completely different with different production, a different way of shooting things, etc. and McMahon shoots it down.
That one idea right there, and that's a pretty sund one too. It worked for the first iteration of the brand split back in the early 2000's. They had totally different creative teams (both still looked over by Vince of course). A different look and feel for both shows would make them genuinely feel different. It also creates a kind of pseudo (healthy) rivalry between both creatives, with RAW naturally wanting to beat SmackDown, and vice versa.

As its stand right now, they're both basically the same show.

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Man I think this is true, just because the only thing I have been liking week to week is Bray Wyatt and it sounds like Vince is hands off the Bray stuff. Everything else has been dogshit.

>p-paul will save wwe!

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>milquetoast
BASED
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Aren't the NXT shows the only shows they've consistently sold out?

>The writer he talked to said, “we’re all working for Dana Warrior and it’s really awkward.”

Fucking hell, imagine having to answer to this skeletor looking cunt. The only wrestling bone she's ever had in her body was Warrior's dick

I don't know why everyone is getting defensive ITT. The shows have been absolute shit and they're not doing much different despite the ratings falling. Why wouldn't a rational person try a different approach unless they weren't allowed

Why is wrestling the only journalism that refuses to give sources? It just makes it so smarks fall for pure skepticism

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>Roman Reigns
A failure, took literal cancer to get him over and even that overness is waning
>Strowman
Dead in the water
>Enzo & Cass
Shitting up the indies and had their buzz eclipsed by a crazed fan tackling a stroke survivor in Bret
>Velveteen Dream
Based. I give you that
>Lars Sullivan
Permanent damaged goods by acting like an absolute retard in forums

Here's the problem. If the NXT brand and card has me more interested then RAW and SD into MITB, then they're fucking up.

>everything they asked for they got
I'd argue that it was surrounded by ham-fisted booking and bad TV instead of being anything watchable. Does the end of the story matter if the story is shit?

>>– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.
Holy fucking based.

Literally every build of an NXY champion before Gargano was better than Gargano.

>The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.


The real world is falling apart and is pure shit, why would it be any other way?

i figured matt hardy was producing it so it was allowed to not be shit.

Oh bullshit, you just think that somehow he is keeping all of the great things from happening when it all likely hood that is not the case.

>WWE is dying a painful death
Based

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>prowrestling is dead.

This sums it up, it is dead and wwe killed it.

I am glad a few of them got rich off it before it completely crashed and burned.

>NXT might be the biggest reason many people are subbed to the network

LOL how can you just make up shit like this?

Your personal feelings about something are not an indicator of anything.

That "writer" source sure sounds a lot like hypersensitive indy shitter extraordinaire archibald peck

All of those companies just repost articles from other sources

Fuck you, refusing to learn English in the USA is anti-white racism.

>cancel Vince McMahon
Shouldn't you be dilating right now?

You can't be racist against whites, it's like saying men can be raped by women (they can't, you have to be hard to be raped, and that means you want it)

No journalists give sources anymore they just say "sources familiar with the matter say". Gives them the ability to make up whatever they want.

All of those are shit except Velveteen and Enzo

>>– The WWE-Fox contract prohibits Fox from moving the show to FS1 even if the ratings drop.
B A S E D
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You are a brainwashed retard if you eat up the "you can't be racist against whites" nonsense. Any race can be racist against any other race.

>Why is wrestling the only journalism that refuses to give sources?
You crazy? Every news outlet now uses an "Anonymous source"

its a money sink. They do shows at Full Sail then Takeovers before a big PPV where the audience is already there.

They also have no ratings to worry about, which is why nobody cares that their weekly TV is unremarkable

And some women orgasm while being raped so with your own logic that means those women weren't raped.

That's all Vince has ever done. Sounds to me like none of these pussies have the balls to stand up to Vince like is necessary.

0/10 you tried the exact same bait in another thread. Learn subtlety you moron.

>Velveteen Dream
>Based
Not quoting you to demean you, i actually agree. But you just know the minute he arrives on the main roster, he's dead in the water.

>I DON'T GET IT HUNTER, HE'S JUST A GAY NIGGER. CAN'T HE JUST DANCE AND JIVE LIKE THE NEW DAY?

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Unironiclly this. Hard work impressed Vince but ring crew is doormat material or at best steady hand ala Brooklyn Brawler

sounds like absolute shit

meanwhile we AEW CHADS have omega,PAC,cody,jim ross

HOLY SHIT WE CANT STOP WINNING,AEWCHADS!!

Paul & Steph are literally the only thing worse than Vince. This company has no chance.

Fucking indie shitters

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cringe dirtsheet bullshit

Becky is Vince's girl you dipshit

Heart attack during driving when? Vince mom is unironically still alive, so if she got long living gene from her, WWE is fucked unless something drastic happened. Imagine if those plane accident thread ends up being thr only thing possible to save E right now.

Vince, Gaitch, and Macho Man's old cumdump need to all die in a plane crash for WWE to have a chance

So is Steph going to let VInce destroy her inheritance or push the old man down a flight of stairs?

>HEY CODY I CAME UP WITH FALSE NEWS THAT MAKE WWE LOOK BAD AS REQUESTED NOW THAT WOULD BE 11 HOT DOGS PLUS CONDIMENTS PLEASE

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And then we'd have Fredo Shane and Bucky Beaver. Face it, the company has no chance. Make the switch.

I dont watch that indee bullshit lmao

Your personal feelings about something are not an indicator of anything.

Shane is based. He would let people do what they want without meddling like his old man.

>>– Andrade went into Vince’s office and asked for a legit push. Vince looked at him and said, “learn some English and get back to me.” Andrade spoke some English last week and he’s been taking English lessons.
Vince is extremely retarded for not realizing he could tap into that illegal alien base.

Ya seethe lmfao

>make the switch

fuck off AEW cuck. stop forcing your shit down peoples fucking throats.

He's a fucking retard. Read about the """deals""" he made in China. He traded WWE's best entry point into China for a title at a dying company so he could run home to tell daddy he made something of himself

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>The most frustrated person in the back every single night is Triple H.

Bull fucking shit hes part of the problem too. Hes just scapegoating.

While i doubt most of this is true whenever i hear of stuff like this im always reminded of my dad. He was born 5 days after Vince and while of course my dad is just an average retired salaryman the thought of him trying to book a TV show for people that are 40-60 years younger then him is funny.

And its just normal old guy stuff he deals with that i think of Vince dealing with from just innocent getting names wrong of random sports players or things like that. I can guarantee the reason so many wrestlers had their names shortened to 1 word is because Vince kept fucking them up and got frustrated.

Fucking this.

>"its everyone else not named HHH whos fucking everything up. Paul is really trying and cares guys! I totally swear!"

o god my sides

I have an image in my head of Neville just doing backflips right out the fucking door.

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Post a link or kys

Whos the dumbass at fox who clearly has no idea how awful wwe is that they would give them a gorillion dollars AND can't cancel them (when) they get abhorent ratings.

>– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

Must be nice

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Nothing will change until ALL 3 are gone.

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You know, the one thing that makes me doubt when hearing things like this: your fucking creative is so amazing and always coming up with new good ideas? Bullshit. There's a limited number of idea someone can come up with, no matter how creative they are. And all of those are good? Yeah, no

It's not even that
It's more like deviation from the current format would be a fucking blessing.

bump

Is there a source on any of this or is it OP fanfic?

yikes

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Here it is, just listen to it yourself.

Oi seriously, the caller is pretty soon after Wade shilling his shit.
And he doesn't sound like he is making the shit up, he speaks without thinking about what he is saying.

>They loved working for Road Dogg...
One of the things the caller said. That is not a smark take.

>still no TV deal

well the leaks did come from three writers. they're not going to say their ideas are shit. you can obviously take that one with a grain of salt

Its been known for a while that wwe needs a massive cleansing from top to bottom at the backstage scene

Holy fuck Vince is actually a shoot retard it’s actually incredible

Wednesday is today, isn't it.

Vince is going to kill his own company and I can't wait.

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And the best thing is... he doesn't know he's doing it.

>– “It’s such a toxic atmosphere and it’s all because of one person.”

WOAH!! Alright get the fuck out you larping redditor!

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>>– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.

This is it. This is why all this awful shit happens. It's hard to believe that Vince really is as bad as he is and seems to have no self awareness or give at all. But when people are too close to something and NEVER take a break or step outside to look at anything else this is exactly how they get. There is NO hope until someone forces him outside or he dies.

What I take from this is Sami Zayn's winning MitB

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>>– The writers say he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world.
based Vince living the Yea Forums NEET dream

source

There is no chance Vince can run WWE and the XFL at the same time. He has to give up control of at least one of them. But the fucker is crazy enough to try and run both. If he does, there is a legit chance he works himself to death.

Yeah.
All reports say Vince has the final call on everything. And it's well known he a complete control freak.

He at least has personality and charisma. Cant say the same for 90% of the rest of the roster.

I have been saying it for years, Vince strikes me as the type that will live until he's 100 years old. And will work until the day he dies.

It's not hard to believe since NXT is his creation, and Vince goes out of his way to bury all NXT talent.

I can only imagine just how hard cody and brandi are going to fuck tonight

>The titles mean NOTHING
i hate this argument because it's obvious that the people who say it only say it when "their guy" isn't the champion.

the only title i would ever say was worthless is the universal title because the two longest title reigns it has are vacant & lesnar (which might as well be vacant given how often he shows up) other than that a title is only worthless if the division is dead.

Is this considered a confirmation, bros?

Yeah because having jobbers like Jinder Mahal and Kofi Kingston as WWE champion really elevates the title. Remember CuckMan Phil's epic reign, he main evented what 2 ppvs? Do you even remember the last time a champion had a decent reign without getting beaten on random tv shows? (Obviously not counting Lesnar since he was smart enough to not appear on the tv shows)

Yeah thats why he has Andrew Luck's daddy to run XFL.

Someone on twitter posted that Vince's downfall and the subsequent downfall of WWE is incredibly similar to that of Henry Ford and Ford Motors. There's a lot of poetry here

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>Why is wrestling the only journalism that refuses to give sources?
have you watched CNN or read the WP or NYT lately? me neither.

Consider the fact that maybe they put on good shows to entertain the fans, and it works

Go back

>i hate this argument because it's obvious that the people who say it only say it when "their guy" isn't the champion

Sounds like a (You) problem. The champions in WWE literally don't mean a thing because 90 percent of them either lose their way into the titles (Hawkins/Ryder), or become losers after winning the title (IIconics, Joe, whoever the IC champ is).

I want to fuck Ryuko!

Paul's nose is not that big

Wouldnt doubt it at all. Wwe always pushes the people they like over the actual good ones. And they liked Dana since she was in nxt. Same with Corbin.

Yeah thats crazy. I guess they can still move the timeslot and/or day though.

Ya seethe Cunter?

i dunno what happened last night but kofi hasn't been looking like a jobber in the last couple of shows.

also lesnar is a terrible example for how a champion should be booked because like i said it might as well be a vacant title with him.

the thing is like said if championships really don't matter nobody would've cared if rollins, becky or kofi won at mania.

hi shlomo

>Vince will kill WWE before dies to spite his children

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based yeah under him NXT is a solid product that week to week will actually work
no tranny extra shit either
just quality

wtf!? Is this real? What is this from?

A video of her washing her face on Instagram

I will never understand women, especially instagram thots. They're like an alien species.

Aesthetics alone don't make good shows

t. Lucha Underground

That’s even scarier. NXT is a disaster. I really hope HHH doesn’t ACTUALLY like his vanilla midget shit flippers on NXT and is instead just using them to show Vince he can run a promotion

Why would a guy built like HHH, with his talent, actually like fags like Balor et al who are tinier than the average guy and with less charisma to boot? Is it because he feels threatened by bigger guys?

Entertaining the fans doesnt make money. Gay jokes and managers pissing themselves does