What's the biggest thing WWE has done to ruin wrestling?

AEW

The only reason no one has said this yet is because 20 million of us haven't lasted long enough as viewers to say it anymore or even be here: pushing Cena. Everyone posting something different is either new or a leftover who kept watching and now does yes chants.

Small Men

fans become wrestlers

letting midcards become champions

>when you could be making serious fucking money elsewhere without hurting yourself.
Most of them would’ve been mechanics or blue collar workers people who get into the wrestling business don’t do it for the money

yes, he's a terrible wrestler, actor and promo, but things were already awful during the invasion angle. The biggest thing they did to ruin wrestling was buy WCW.

Made wrestling popular.

This, but it would've probably happened sooner or later when one company got big enough. Another is Vince admitting it's a work during the Steroid Trial so he didn't have to pay the Athletic Commissions.

Going public and became beholden to shareholders.

Instead of being able to continue to innovate, they have to do what's best "for the investors," which includes keeping the product appealing to the largest accessible market (adults AND kids).

They gave in to the sponsors like how this site cave in to the demands of the advertisers

Eliminating the competition. Now there’s no need to innovate to keep things entertaining, not to mention how they get to abuse their talent because there’s nowhere else to go.
I seriously hope AEW is able provide WWE with some serious competition. It’ll never be the same as the Monday night wars, but it’ll be something.

exist post 2008

Scripts
Weekly 3 hour shows
Literally tanking your entire companies method of making money just to get a slightly better tv royalty fee

Catering to plebbit

Womens Wrestling

Keeping Vince in charge

Spending two decades booking matches where the only heel in the entire company who can win a match cleanly is HHH.

cena is a draw ya ding-dong diddly simp go back to 4eddit

I actually like Cena but the people who make the 'HE IS GOOD BECAUSE CAPITALISMS' argument need to hang themselves. i find it absolutely mental that people can enjoy something based on how much money it has been able to make for its owners. You might as well go become a fan of the FTSE 100.

They forgot wrestling isn't a sport

Based user destroying Money Marks

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The blue blazer stunt, something WCW did a million times safely, they did it twice and killed a man, now nobody does it.

>loses over 3 million viewers in your path
>a draw
I know Cena fans are retarded but c'mon, learn subtraction you fucking dork.

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The brand split. Basically it makes everything less relevant. Daniel Bryan was World Champion and 2x WWE Champion before WrestleMania 30.

You want the truth? They transitioned to a business-to-business revenue model that, while nice for the stock prices of publicly-traded companies, treats fans as a secondary income source, and actively discourages creativity. Nearly every other industry-damaging decision they've made since becomes not only a natural conclusion of this original decision, but inevitable, downright financially irresponsible, and a betrayal of the stockholders NOT to do when you look at it from that paradigm. Now that they've added Saudi money laundering to their list of revenue streams, fans are even lower on the list.

Carnies might secretly hate their marks, but they need to give their marks what they want.

Suits, lawyers, and accountants working at an multinational business-to-business conglomerate who's revenue is dependent countries and companies rather than individuals don't need the marks at all.

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Exist

This.
WWE is no longer a wrestling promotion.

Sport Entertainment

This is the only answer you need to know

Damn a well thought out post from a fellow Yea Forums bro. Good shit user

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Look at you, commenting on shit you are clueless about. Wrestling used to be able to outpay all other sports. That's why it drew talent that knew how to work a mark for more of his money. Marks in the ring is a very real thing. Almost every wrestler today is a wrestling mark. The people running the training facilities now are the guys making the money. The people who attend them are the money marks paying for a set of garbage skills that will never earn them the money they cost to acquire.

The other problem is catering to clueless boobs like user there, who have too much spare time to sit at their keyboard.

Based serious answer user

PG era ruined wrestling.
Normies used to tune in to see a trainwreck, Mankind getting thrown off the roof of Hell in a Cell and having his tooth poke through his nose. Sable, Sunny, and Trish titties. Barbed wire baseball bat. Stone Cold owning Vince Mcmahon, etc. All the racy stuff. Now it is a PG publicly traded company beholden to investors that requires to report quarterly earnings marketed towards literal 7 years old and afraid of class action concussion lawsuit. Of course the product is going to suffer.

Because the way main roster does it is pure shit, and incase you havent noticed booking in general for the main roster is shit.

Also yeah what said. Joshi in the 80/90's fucking ruled.

Made the brand the draw so wrestlers have no power. Its fucked them in the long run though as fans have realized this and wwe can't create any new stars.

wipe benoit careere

Can somebody elaborate on the Saudi money laundering please?

>and promo
Not even a fan of Cena, but this is completely untrue. Cena is great at promos.

This and the fact that kayfabe is no longer a thing.

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Unironically having almost a complete monopoly on the business.

this fuck drawfags

This, I fucking hate when people say that.

Push vanilla midgets

It was dead way before. Stock market flotation killed wwe.

Hire 4 of the best bullet club members and do nothing with the BC name. But mainly pushing roman and brock over everyone else since 2014

Does that mean Curt Flood killed the wrestling business?

listening to the ''fans''
aka fedora tippers crying on twitter

I think all that really means is that when they get the huge payoffs from them they just call it profit to stockholders and it boosts their stocks

It's a little bit of what said, and a little bit that the Saudi gov't really wanted to support Trump in the election, but can't because that's illegal. However, shortly before the election, Vince McMahon makes a donation to the Trump Foundation so large that it accounts for over half of the entire "charity's" coffers, and that is too large to be beneficial for tax purposes, even to a billionaire, and that's on top of his HEFTY campaign donations and nobody is sure why. Shortly AFTER the election, the Saudi prince makes a deal with Vince McMahon so large it will keep his company afloat for the foreseeable future.

All of the above is not a matter of opinion, or an accusation: just a matter of public record and plain unhidden fact. The below is conjecture.

It's not the sort of thing that can be proven or prosecuted in court (that's sort of the point of effective money laundering,) but WWE and Vince McMahon's interraction between the Trump Foundation and the Saudi Government allowed a foreign power to legally donate money towards an election, which is worth a hefty margin for the facilitator (which in this case would be the difference between Vince's initial donations to Trump, and the total profit that Vince stands to make from the Saudi deal over the next decade.) It might seem inefficient to go through and finance such a large organization as WWE, but A: WWE is not as big as it pretends to be on TV, and B: larger sums have been spent to interfere in less important elections.

Going PG again. Not saying they have to bring back the Attitude Era, but a little bit more edge would make things a lot better than the sanitized, corporate shit we have now.

thanks for taking the time to type all of this out

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>Going PG again
>again

PC PG of Cena-era WWE is nothing like 80s/90s PG.