Wrestling Observer on WWE Revenue

>First, the company greatly missed on analysts predictions, falling $15 million to $17 million short on revenue, and losing about $8.4 million during the quarter as opposed to the $700,000 to $800,000 loss number that was projected.

> The stock, which earlier in the week topped the magic $100 per share mark, closed on 5/1 at $82.63 per share. It had a big decline after the telling results of the quarter, which continued for a few days. It started coming back but then fell another $1.22 per share on 5/1 after the announcement of the Saudi Arabia show. It left the company with a market value of $6.449 billion.

> Still, the company’s long-term economics are no different today than they were a few weeks ago. But for the first time, the stock market analysts did start to notice what fans have noted for years, that the real economic engagement metrics and metrics of paying popularity are declining at a significant rate, and getting worse.

>The problem is that, while fans know there are issues with the company, when it comes to creative, creating stars and connecting with a very unique audience, many others have been buffaloed for years with the fake stats that, quite frankly, a lot of investors are buffaloed by. But in this case reality hit. All those billions of social media followers and trillions of YouTube views, yet all that does is expose how meaningless those numbers are when every single aspect of consumer spending on business was way down even without figures in those categories comparing favorably to even people like the NFL and NBA.

> They put over that things are changing because they’ve brought up so many new people from NXT who are just starting, except they’ve already squandered almost all of them. The only two they’ve gotten behind were Lars Sullivan and Lacey Evans, which says where the mentality about new stars is, exactly like 30 years ago, a freakish body in guys and below average work and above average looks for women.

absolutely BASED

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e drones ETHERED

How has Vince managed to work his clueless investors for years up to this point? Why have they just now gotten a clue?

>All those billions of social media followers and trillions of YouTube views,
This motherfucker literally preached on how great The Bucks and Cody social media engagement are and point to the BTE youtube views is why TV network are paying them a lot of money. Now he is saying those doesn't matter. Tremendous AEW shill is tremendous.

>Lost half a billion dollars in a week
Oh no no no...

He's still right about the WWE. It's just that he's wrong about AEW.

I'm so looking forward to Smackdown on Fox. Either Vince proves Meltzer wrong or he goes down in flames. Either ways, I'm entertained. Certainly more entertained than I would be if I actually watched the show.

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> falling $15 million to $17 million short on revenue, and losing about $8.4 million during the quarter as opposed to the $700,000 to $800,000 loss number that was projected.

holy fucking shit lmao

> More Meltzer numbers that only he has access to and can verify

*yawn*

Next time post a "journalist" who isn't such an obvious enemy of the WWE. He's posted fake news about them for literal decades and it's time we stop tolerating it.

Seething

Ya boil

Hi Dave! Sorry, I don't have your 11.99

lmao classic e drone poorfag

MUH WORKRATE. As based as this is, his final comments still prove how little he knows about successful mainstream wrestling.

lmao get a load of this reddit simp

Reddit loves Dave, and clearly so do you, so maybe you should go back and let us discuss actual sports entertainment.

WWE uses social media numbers at the forefront in selling the company to investors. The majority of them aren't even from the United States, and are from countries that don't really turn much of a profit.
AEW's social media engagement in the US is actually pretty impressive. People are talking about them, even if it is people getting worked into a seething shoot.

>sports entertainment
OH NO NO NO NO

Are you just going to reply with memes, or rebuttal any of my points?

I agree with most of this, but Lars and Lacey are not the only NXT call ups the company is behind. That's a load of crap. Black and Ricochet are getting a lot of promotion too. Ricochet even got the pin this week in his tag match against Baron and Drew.

He got the pin on Corbin after Drew and Braun beat him up, after jobbing to Roode last week.

The funny thing is that they're pushing those people because MUH WORKREIT GUISE are proven antidraws. See who were the most heavily promoted wrestlers going into Mania and you'll see it's true
>B-b-b-but muh shit booking
Smarks were salivating at the though of Kofi, Becky, and that Armenian Spic being champions and the ratings fucking tanked worse than ever.

Have sex. I'm beggin ya

No one in WWE is a draw

Yeah, but there are no-draws and anti-draws. And the current line up is nothimg but anti-draws.

This. WWE made SURE that no one draws more than the brand itself.

>The state this logic
He can still be an AEW shill and be correct about WWE, you don't have to take everything he says as Us vs. Them conspiracy shit. Elements of WWE business are on the downswing, you don't need him or anyone to lay that out for you, it's plainly obvious. AEW also isn't publically traded and thus their social media isn't a smoke screen to con investors with fake numbers, it actually is a part of their business in a larger way.

I have never seen wrestlers crying and being so elated when they debut on main roster or won a title as much as they did in the past 5 years. Absolutely dream come true moments, thank you WWE for giving me this job. Imagine The Rock and Austin doing this kinda shit.

The type of "promotion" Black and Ricochet are getting is not the same type of "promotion" Lars and Lacey are getting, if you can't see that you're either a complete autist or you've just started watching. Ricochet got shut down like a literal child in that promo Monday, that's how they see him.

Is it good time to buy WWE stock only to sell it when it hits 200 next?

Dave is literally trying to con TV networks into paying AEW a ton of money for a 2 hour prime time weekly TV despite having no experience producing a live weekly episodic show ever, just based on the number of views that their Youtube BTE series get.

Social media numbers don't mean anything financially, especially when those are subscribers which means nothing. Views are international and are a good metric for audience interest, but that's scaled against the reach and size of your product and in terms of WWE the number of views are laughably low.

>despite having no experience producing a weekly episodic show, just based on views for their weekly episodic show

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Agree 100%. I think the only one who did not cry of the recent champions was AJ Styles. He was already champ from other promotions before so for him it wasnt that big of a surprise to be champ.

you forgot the "live" part, idiot.

but no one likes the brand hell its got fuck off heat

it's WWE not Impact

Why is live any harder? Just hire a production guy.

You realize Cody and Matt Jackson aren't going to be working the cameras and setting up the feed, right? They've already hired people with experience to help them with the things they haven't done yet, like how every other business works

Go ask big daddy Meltzer what's the difference between producing a 30 mins youtube video every week versus a live 2 hours TV show every week cause I'm not getting paid to teach retards on the internet.

>below average work and above average looks for women.
NOT AGAIN MELTS. THIS is so Problematic ! DAVE is the one judging women by their looks as he just proves that he personally puts the in above and below fap categories

There is no room for a pig mentality like this old fashioned fart #nolabels #onebeauty #metoo

TNA and MLW can do it, it's not rocket science

exactly my point, why the fuck is TV network paying AEW, a ton of money in a prime time spot on weekdays, when TNA or Impact or MLW has experience producing live weekly episodic content for at least a year when AEW has no experience doing so. People forgot the production issues that All In had? Especially when they ran out of time so their main event was a 5 mins match?

Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes and The Young Bucks

so? doesn't mean they are guaranteed 2 million viewership does it? Their BTE series on Youtube doesn't even crack 300k viewers and that is world wide.

what other production issues did they have?
leaving aside 1 match being shorter than it was supposed to be (it wasn't a 5 min match), overall i think everyone was very surprised by how great the production was

Nothing on TNT does that much if they do 1 million, it's worth it for everyone.

>buffaloed
I think this has some potential

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you forgot about the camera missing spots and sound problems through out the show. Did you actually fucking watch All In?

yea, live in the building

>the more shit Dave talks on WWE the more Yea Forums seethes
>"w-we just w-watch it i-ironically"
>"w-worked"

>the mentality about new stars is, exactly like 30 years ago, a freakish body in guys and below average work and above average looks for women
now THAT is what I call BASED

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how are they going to get a million in a cable TV in America when they can't even get 300k for their 15~30 mins youtube series that is available world wide? Why would a TV network take a $10 million a year gamble?

>let us discuss actual sports entertainment

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there you go, it wasn't a great experience watching at home. Matches was great but production and commentary was the drizzling shit and it was the consensus on social media.

Have you completely forgotten All In already or are you just completely retarded? They've produced a weekly show, they've produced a live show, they can convince someone they can produce a live weekly show. Even if they wind up in over their heads, it's more than enough for a pitch.

their yt series is just them fucking around, and it's not all pajeets like wwe's yt

>let us discuss actual sports entertainment.

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>Lacey Evans
>above average

Vince just loves her so much because she looks like damn man

>They've produced a weekly show,
no they haven't, it's a 15-30 mins youtube video, not a 2 hour TV show.

>they've produced a live show,
No they haven't. All In was an RoH produced show, Sinclair even have the rights for the video. We haven't seen DoN or FoF yet.

>they can convince someone they can produce a live weekly show.
They can't, that's why they haven't announce a TV deal yet and there is a rumor that they are buying TV time instead of getting paid.

Your name must be Dixie Carter if you think 1 show that other people produced with half the roster in that show belong to other promotions that you can't use anymore, is enough to convince a TV network to give them "more money than anyone but WWE for a live 2 hour prime time weekday show" when NWA, MLW and Impact failed to get the same for a fraction of that money. You think Impact would not agree to $100k a year deal as long as they get a 2 hour prime time on TNT?

>Next time post a "journalist" who has numbers that only he has access to and can verify

This thread just proves that Yea Forums is full of e-drone retards

>This thread just proves that Yea Forums is full of e-drone retards
COPE

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>Meltz defending manlets from WWE's manlet shaming
And there are people who STILL don't believe he's on the Khan payroll.

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>that only Meltzer can verify
The numbers where released in the quarterly report ya idiot.

That's the mentality because it's what people fucking want. Enough midgets and ugly bitches. Lars and Lacey are dimes.

t. 5'5'' nu-male who is scared by fit women

What will you say when the ratings will continue to fall down even with Roman Reigns and Charlotte on top of one show and Lars/Bobbo/Drew and Lacey on top of the second one?
because that's similar to what we had previously
And they still kept on falling and falling and falling
Performers on top will not stop the freefall. Stop kidding yourself.

you mean they're not going to have all the new talent doing that stuff to pay their dues?