>1995 all over again, WCW doing nWo, changing the business, WWF is doing Mantaur, TL Hopper etc. They are back at the same situation, this is a prime time show, they're moving to FOX soon and what the show is is campy, goofy, childish, phony wrestling. They can't break out of the wrestling bubble.
>RAW ratings once again horrible, nobody is watching this show, its atrocious.
>Shane McMahon forced heel shtick ring announcing himself as "best in the world" is forced and is not real heat.
>Says hes a fan of Ryder & Hawkins. Takes shot at the whole "Viking Experience" stuff. Tells an example about "The Brood", they were supposed to be modern day vampires, they were cool, but they didn't live in coffins, bite people, didn't do over the top unbelievable campy generic vampire shit. Why does the Viking shtick need to be made campy and cartoony? Why can't they just be two dudes living the viking lifestyle. They can do that without being over the top cartoony. Make them interesting, film vignettes outside of the arena, let's see how they live their lives.
>Why do we have to sit through so many 6 man, 8 man whatever man matches that mean absolutely nothing with no storyline attached to them because your roster is bloated.
>Every outcome is predictable, Finn Balor and Andrade, of course Andrade will win in his first night on RAW brand because its a non title match. Of course Lacey is going to win over Natalya. Becky is going over Riott. Of course the Vikings will pin the tag champs in a non title match. Of course Reigns, Rollins and Styles are going over in this anothe 6 man tag fest with no rhyme or reason or stakes, nothing. So predictable, everything. What's the point?
>Enough with this Elias shtick with people interrupting him. Cool maybe 2 or 3 weeks but then it gets old. Not months on end, this is just copy and paste. Beat this thing to death with maybe one of the most talented guys on the roster.
Russo RAW & SD review bulletpoints
>Says Sami Zayn should act face in front of his home crowd, draws an example from Bret Hart in 1997 when he was heel in USA but face in Canada. Zayn should've done the same and cut a promo on USA in Canada so next time in USA he would got more heat from the crowd. But it's the 1970s outdated babyface and heel mentality once again in action. All the old timers back in fold there is in the bubble, in real life Zayn would have not shat on his own people. So predictable. Puts over Zayns promos though, criticizes the direction.
>Why can't this Sasha and Bayley thing be real, why can't Bayley go to Stephanies office and try to arrange meeting with her and Sasha. Don't break full on kayfabe by saying she didn't want to lose, just subtle mention "she didn't want to do business"
>Blasts on WWE's pettiness once again towards EC3 because he left, went to TNA and got himself over there without them and now they're punishing him, just BS.
>Remember when big guys just used to be big guys, imposing and all (Sid, Big John Studd etc) Now, if you're a monster (both Lars, Strowman), you need to beat your chest, growl, gotta make mean campy monster faces. So if you're a big guy, in the wrestling bubble you need to do this campy "monster things", you just can't be imposing, violent and vicious big man. It's childish and not cool and hip.
>People should put in jail for what they've done to Bobby Roode. They got Roode so hot and over in TNA. They haven't even dropped the ball, they've got an axe from the Viking Experience and chopped the ball. They've destroyed Bobby Roode, should be doing much better, should've turn on Gable weeks ago. Instead they're having these matches that mean fuck all.
Based. Listening to it right now. This guy knows what he’s talking about
>Whole superstar shakeup was nothing but a televised house show.
>Russo can't even remember when was the last real STORY or ANGLE and he is not counting oh I wan't your belt and beat you" as a story.
>Does not believe the FOX execs know what they've really bought. They probably think it's still the type of product when it was Hogans, Austins, Rocks etc. but they will soon find out when there is monsters growling like cartoon characters at prime time TV.
>Kofi is the champ now, he should be more serious, he has target on his back now, game has changed. Kofi should be given his own music and stop with the pancakes, can't take him seriously as champion like that. No comment from Vince McMahon since Kofi won even thoug he tried everything to not make it happen.
>Another boring 6-man, Owens should've turned on Kofi during the match, instead let's put him in a goofy shirt and eating pancakes. Difference between funny and silly, this is silly shit. DX using helmets to protect from Sgt. Slaughters spit was funny.
>Doesn't even care to know Mustafa Alis name, likes wrestling, not acrobats. Same idea with Balor than with Andrade. Oh yeah lets tear the house down, great workrate blah blah, no storyline, nothing.
>Imagine FOX executive first time sitting at home with his wife watching this and his wife is going to say, when is the real wrestling starting, this is just a parody of a wrestling show right?
>Lars comes again, growling ,mean monster faces and gets heat on Truth. Mentions the "look at his skull" line. Has any UFC announcer ever suddenly started in a fight starting to mention how some fighters skull looked. Stop. Just stop.
>Boring, formulaic entrances one by one from the woman and woilah, now we have once again an 8 woman tag. No stakes, no nothing. Of course Kairi pins Peyton, non title match, predictable. Thinks someone will get hurt in these matches one day.
>Babyfaces went over in 6 man last night, same copy and paste on SmackDown
>Elias coming out as Vinces announcement, so predictable he was going to be interrupted by someone (Reigns in this case). No swerves, no surprises. Same ol' same o', lays out Elias.
>Has no idea why Vince is still putting himself on TV at his age. It's almost symbolic what this Vince and Attitude Era Vince represented when it comes to the content of program.
>What did you miss if you didn't watch these shows? What was so unforgettable? What will be the watercooler talk on your job next day? Where were the cliffhangers? What can't you wait to see next week?
>Call him bitter, whatever you want, WWE is so deep in the wrestling bubble and someone has to come in and burst it and bring this program up to date.
THE END.
>almost 60 year old boomer with no job squatting in his father-in-law's basement
>thinks he knows how to bring anything up to date
kek
this.
thank you for this and hes 100% right
at least smackdown will be more fun and 1 hour shorter
they need to bring him back, but the thing is he doesn't like the politics in professional-wrestling
GIVE HIM THE CALL, VINCE YA FUCKING SIMP HE IS THE ONE TO SAVE THE WWE
>tfw those shitty arguments Yea Forums uses daily come from this guy
What shitty arguments? WWE sucks.
He's fucking spot on. Everyone who talked shit on him over the years should be ashamed of themselves. He's one of the only people in the entire wrestling world who knows how to make this bullshit entertaining.
Why couldn't he write a consistant story in the 3 companies he's been in. WWE is dogshit but picking it apart is literally picking apart a children's show
Russo is spot-on in his assessment. modern WWE caters to the sesame street kids audience.
No he;s not. i have fun watching all most every other wrestling company
Based
all these get posted at real cuck
Russo did a lot of shit during his days in WCW but fuck he is right here. NO STORYLINES. FUCKING TAG TEAM SHIT. NO DEVELOPMENT. NO CHARACTERS. PROMOS ARE SHIT. I didnt think WWE could go even further down the rabbithole after Wrestlemania but holy shit its more boring than ever.
DING-DONG DIDDLY BASED RUSSO, OUR LAST HOPE
Elias is definitely being squandered
>indoctrinated meltzer cuck can't admit when someone is right because his jew master told him not to
Typical. Russo is 100% right as always. We really are back in 1995 except this time there will be no WCW, professional wrestlling as a form of mainstream entertainment (calling it mainstream is pushing it already) will just cease to exist because Vince was too proud and too sentimental to get the right people behind him (aka not HHH and Stephanie).
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>living in the wrestling bubble
Cringe
It will be three hours very soon (FOX). Sorry to burst your wrestling bubble.
Why does Russo make zoomers seethe? Everything he said was right on the money. Only a simp thinks "prowrestling is perfect right now" as ratings go down the toilet.
They are so used to this shit that even medicority is considered massive success these days.
Bump
Based.
How do we pop the wrestling bubble?
Meltzerdrones have to be the worst. IMAGINE listening to a mark who has never worked a day in the business that likes to think he knows the ins and outs of.
Is it any worse than listening to someone who has failed constantly since leaving WWF in 1999. Dave hasn't been reduced to constantly shilling his podcast on the pro wrestling section of a Nepalese prawn peeling board.
>MUH RATINGS
Might as well say WWE VHS sales are down drastically since 1998. It's an irrelevant metric.
>le failure if you dont automatically surpass WWF's AE ratings
great listen on my walk today
Russo is only man who can save WWE
people who bash him are ignorant and don't listen
based, make the call Vince
Somebody please post this to Reddit. Title it "former WWE creative member shoots RAW/SmackDown problems" so it WON'T get buried under downvotes then after you copy and past the green text here. At the very bottom REVEAL this was actually the opinions of Vince Russo.
Reddit has irrational hate of Russo. This way they will read how brilliant Russo without even knowing it until the end!
>failure
Show me someone who drew bigger ratings.
I'll wait.
Or... re-word it slightly and say it's what Meltzer said.
Imagine the butthurt after they realize it's the thinking of the based mans man Vinnie Ru.
The NPCs would just say
>well even the broken clock is right twice a day
Or some generic Russo bashing part 5000
Whoever was booking 86/87-era WWF for one. Saturday Night's Main Event got an 11.6 rating on 21 February, 1987.
I agree with everything he said except the Sasha thing. Telling someone they didn’t want to do business is such a cliche Gaytch lone.
Russo still has his finger on the pulse of how wrestling should be more than most in the WWE
doing it now
Spot on with everything
>How do we pop the wrestling bubble?
Get the fossils out of creative/positions of power and try to get to the casuals by updating the product to 2019's pop culture instead of 1970's retard tactics.
>ratings
>irrelevant
Every TV executive disagrees, get out of the wrestling bubble
An exception isn't a rule, also WWF got consistently high ratings around Russo's time meanwhile the golden era didn't even cared about TV and there wasn't as much competition at the time
Do you honestly think it is brilliant to name issues with the current WWE product which we all know is shit? Anyone of us can write up a neverending list of why WWE is shit. But the thing I have an issue with is him talking about not being cartoony and all that shit with Viking Experience and big guys, and how The Brood was, but he made a giant fishtank for a guy named Sharkboy to swim in.
Everything he said was correct wtf. Are you bullshitting me OP? Is this actually Russo?
>old.reddit.com
>old.reddit.com
What did user mean by this three-year history of Reddit posts?
Yeah. There was issues in his original review with Stevie and Bin so he had to do it again by himself so he was pissed and just went off.
Based and upvoted my man
Is there any chance Fox tells them to stop being faggots and push the bar a little with edgier stuff?
It's possible but they'll only be able to go so far because they don't want to piss off their sponsors.
thx
I can't believe I'm agreeing with this dumb motherfucker
>Muh Ratings
The point this business is and always has been to make money.
The fact is that, outside of those 2 years. Any company Russo has been a part of has not made a dime.
No because they're on broadcast TV.
You don't even need to bring everything up to date. You could use Russo for his most underrated talent, that of putting the entire roster on each week while finding reasonable situations for them to be in.
TNA achieved their highest ratings with Russo writing. And ratings means viewers, viewers means more eyeballs on the ads meaning more money for the business.
I'm sad I'll never see Cornette pissing on Russo's grave
This, I thought they were going for something really big when they had him man up and go face-to-face with the Undertaker, but then he just did the predictable "pretend to back off but turn around and do a sneak attack" only for him to be buried.
yes, a 1.0. The highest ratings he drew were 1.0 despite having Sting,Nash, Hall, Angle, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Steiner, Booker T, and more.
Most writers would be embarrassed peaking at a 1.0 with such a talent packed roster on a major network. Reatrdo actually takes pride in it.
There was a reason why Spike told Dixie not to rehire him.
TNAs advertising also sucked ass. That cant be blamed on Russo. Legends that worked for TNA told stories on how people would ask them why arent you wrestling anymore and had no idea TNA was a thing.
That was partially Spikes fault.
>Nothing was ever Russo's fault. Standards and Practices reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
He was a good writer as a part of a system during a certain period of time (the late 90's). When society moved on, he didn't and continued with his late 90's crash TV style in two different companies to diminishing returns.
It's ok to admit he was a one-trick pony who bought himself an extra ten years in the industry by sucking up to a wealthy, retarded redneck.
How is TNA doing now lol
>There was a reason why Spike told Dixie not to rehire him.
That never happened.
>When society moved on, he didn't and continued with his late 90's crash TV style in two different companies to diminishing returns.
So explain how he moved into trying to make everything improv/worked shoots at the start of TNA then?
Not very well. Spike told Dixie not to rehire Russo and then secretly did. Russo sent a script he wrote to Mike Johnson and exposed he was working there, leading to Spike dropping them.
Dixie wanted Russo in secret because she's an insecure retard who was listening to Meltzer & Co. and was afraid they'd say bad things if they found out Russo was back. Spike had no idea who Russo was. Russo was never a point of contention.
False. Even Johnson said Spike got dropped because Dixie asked too much for new deal. Only guy saying Spike dropped them because of Russo is Meltzer and his source is Corny lol.
Completely false. A literal who TV writer was of no concern to Spike
>Spike had no idea who Russo was. Russo was never a point of contention.
Holy fuck.....
Ruso himself admitted it himself though?
Nope.
I don't even like Russo but there's nothing to disagree with here, I just hope he's making a living off this shit because they're not gonna rehire him, they don't care about uplifting their product because they don't see a reason to. I hope he's making a living off this because if not it's just sad to see him at least look like he cares this much but he's another mark bitching on Twitter knowing he's pissing in the wind
AEW will be the WCW of the 2020's. They are even in talks to be shown of TNT or TBS.
Yeah he admitted it in a shoot interview in 2009
It’s people that listened to shoot interviews and took it all as gospel
He was not even working as secret consultant until like 2012 or so
It's almost as if ratings don't mean shit in regards to making money.
Just let Russo book RAW and Smackdown for six months.
If the show somehow gets worse, fine, fire him.
If the show gets better, keep him full time.
We already know the answer. The last 20 years have told us what's going to happen.
It will be shit.
Listen, it cant be worse than the absolute unwatchable trash 36 writers have been giving us
One thing I can say for sure is if Russo was booking it wouldn't be boring.
Russo is the worst booker of all-time, but at least his shit is perversely entertaining - like a car accident or fat people falling over. Current WWE is shit and boring.
>it'll be shit but not as shit as current shit
E-drones really are battered housewives
Oh youre one of those people. Bye. Nice talking to you.
kys faggot
Bro, Drew McIntyre would be the top guy on Raw, Elias would be the top star on SD. Charly Caruso would be doing stripteases in the ring every week. And Roman would be more tolerable. (Russo isn’t huge on Reigns but he sees star potential in him as a heel)
It could or couldn't be, but Russo is never going to be allowed to write for WWE again, so who cares
Russo, shut up and go away.