Vince Russo interview in 2000 while in WCW
>Which wrestler have they MADE apart from Kurt Angle since I left?
Who else new did they get really over after Russo left? If nothing, they made several lower card guys go down after he left. 2000 was only succesful and maintained ratings because of the momentum and character creation of previous years.
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As opposed to at those mega stars Russo has made in the last 2 decades
Not like Russo has 'made' any new stars since 2000 either
To what extent? WCW was only place with resources and reach matching to WWF and his run was ruined by politics and coming in and out to creative. WWF he had all their resources and he managed to get shitton of people over but after he left, harldy anyone WWE made if you come think about it.
>Never made a star at wcw, just used guys who were made in wwf
>Never made a star at TNA, just brought in the same wcw guys and wwe castoffs
Really making me think
Russo had one good year creatively and he's been living off it ever since. Got to admire his ability to work retards, if nothing else.
As I said he was sent home 3 months in during his initial stint in WCW which was the only time he had FULL REIGN. Even then, combining all his involvement, he had like 8 month max. TNA had lot smaller reach and I did not watch it much during it haydays but AFAIK he was in full control only a brief period of time and then Hogan and Bischoff arrived.
2 and half years.
So he can only make stars if everything is already in place for him to succeed, cool
WWF was the juggernaut. I am comparing stars he helped make while he was there versus when he wasnt.
>FULL REIGN
Based ESL user
Thats why he put the belt on Booker, pushed D Lo Brown to the moon and had best friend in his life who passed away since, a black man.
Yeah, I call bs on that based on D'Lo alone
Thanks to Russo, D'Lo not only held the IC and Euro belts at the same time but he was a solid upper midcarder that was doing TV commercials with Austin and shit
Probably would have been a main-eventer if he didn't cripple Droz
Put the belt on Booker and buried him in the midcard with the belt while putting jeff jarret in the main events
he main evented with nash and steiner ya ding-dong-diddly edrone
Not really believable when you see all the blacks Russo elevated everywhere he worked. If it talked about his disdain for Japanese and Mexican talent it would be more believable.
Based Pretzeltron Russo
Russo's favorite wrestler was Booker T though.
And he talks to Stevie Ray on the phone regularly still and cursed Meltzer when he was talking about Harlem Heat going to HOF or some shit and told how much it meant to Stevie Ray when he called him and who the fuck is Dave to judge HOF inductees lol.
That doesn't apply causation.
It literally does though, 2000 was the start of the boring, predictable writing we see now. Too boring for normies
Nobody likes normies anyway
>liking Russo unironically
Cringe. Have sex.
>2000 was the start of the boring, predictable writing we see now. Too boring for normies
Is that why ratings for Raw were even higher in 2000 than they were in 1999?
No, that's because they had an hour unopposed when Nitro went to two hours you fucking brainlet
>coping this hard
Accept it, faggot, Kreski and his team was better at writing than Russo and Cuck Ferrara
No they weren't lol. They maintained at about the same, one decimal point here or there. Towards the end of 2000 they started going down and been going down ever since.
>Ignore my point btfo'ing you
Pretend like traditional wrestling booking will ever draw, look up Meltzer's sheets from the time, the business decline was already starting half into the year
And don't you understand that no boom dies just instantly even though the quality would go lower?
C O P E
I already posted you clear proof that what you said is not true. 2000 is even worse comparing how bad WCW ratings was doing. In 1999 WCW still gave them some solid competition atleast.
Still coping this hard, eh?
Kreski made TV for the smart man, the man that thinks, and it was fucking based. Russo wishes he could write TV that entertaining.
Ah you were a louse & troll. Sorry for responding bro.
>guys, i was just joking i swear! I didn't mean to get btfo!!
seek sunlight
Russo is trash, nigga
I've noticed alot of Russo dick sucking on this board as of late
Learn to read, faggot, I'm stating facts. A joke would be thinking Russo is good at anything.
>Years of geek marks who think they are experts and crazy southerner bashing Russo without him having a platform to respond creates a false narrative that Russo is some type of evil incarnate
>Years later Russo responds and comes out as levelheaded family man who just wrote compelling TV for the masses and not rasslin' for neckbeard marks
>RUSSO DICK LICKERS, LMAO FAGS RUSSO SUCKSLOL
>actually, wrestling should be treated like a sport! Matches are works of art!!
Nice pic of yourself, dumbass. You and your under 60 IQ can keeo sucking off Russo. Meanwhile I and the rest of the Kreskichads of this board will go to watch some Kreski kino, unlike Russo in WCW lmao what a bitch.
Goldberg, DDP and Steiner off the top of my head, that's 3 compared to WWE's 1
>he thinks DDP and Scott Steiner are known outside of the wrestling bubble
Scott Steiner is actually pretty well known, all my normie friends who work out have shown me pics/vids of him before
Kurt Angle isn't a mainstream star either.
Name one tag team that got more over than Kronik did in WCW 2000 in WWE 2002-2019
Cause none of those guys were stars before Russo showed up.
Goldberg and DDP were already stars a year before Russo even showed up ya fuckin retard.
Oh wow KroniK? Wonder where are they currently
They're dead
Bryan Clark is doing movies in Hollywood actually
New day
Team hell no
Miz and Morrison
The shield
Bailey and the horse
literally all shitters
>implying Crush and Wrath weren't shitters
Both had 10/10 looks, you're an idiot
Still more over then ironic
And they were shitters, that's like pretending Ezekiel Jackson didn't keep shitting all over the ring just because he had "da look"
these dudes look like gay fireman caladar models
He was black though
>Muscles are gay
sure thing basement incel
10/10 look but 2/10 talent and 0/10 charisma
Just cause you’re a closet homo for beefcakes doesn’t mean that every roided up muscle freak was good
>Wrath
>No talent
seek education youtube.com
>New Day
Top merch sellers that used to get chants an hour before shows start. Pushed to the main event way too late but Smackdown ratings have gone up since the Kofi push
>Team Hell No
Just say Bryan.
>Miz and The Cuck
Miz is one of those acts that turned viewers away during the height of his push. The Cuck is irrelevant.
>The Shield
Each one managed to drive WWE into the sorry state it is ratings wise after they split up the first time.
>Footface & Horsey
Bailey's been nothing but garbage while her partner is somehow one of the only women who has drawn for RAW since the brand split has started
One move doesn't mean he has talent
Are you a shoot retard or are you trying to work me
I didn't know I had to show off his entire portfolio, but literally no one has ever done that move half as good as him, watch this squash then only a month after he debuted his gimmick and tell me that's not a star in the making youtube.com
>le moves
>le workrate
How many times does it need to get to your smarks skull that workrate doesn't mean shit. Casual fan would choose which wrestler to watch look over moves.
And All more over then kronik
Actually charisma is a bigger factor then anything which kronik had zero
Russo made Steiner, Booker T and Jeff Jarrett.
He's just trolling, don't pay him attention or he'll start to sperg about other people's height
>star in the making
>never made it
Then why didn't he become a star? Oh right, he's a shitter
samefagposting, literally because Nashetty booked himself to beat him and Kronik push was after WCW had gotten too unpopular
>2 people call him out for saying dumb shit
>"s-s-samefag''
State of (You)
>Literally make exact same post with the exact same wording
kys
What's it like being this stupid
>there's no such thing as phoneposting
Casual fans don't exist anymore and will never exist again
Lmao nigga just accept that Wrath was a shitter who had less charisma than fucking The Wall, how much of a shitter can you be to be the Jannetty of fucking Chris Kanyon? Kek
>Literally win the tag titles from Muta in Japan
>No talent
They do but the number is constantly falling.
Your arguments are just sad at this point, niggy
yet you can't refute any of them, go watch modern cuck wrestling you numale faggot
Your theory worked wonders for Brakkus didnt it
Let's assume that wrestler has atleast basic wrestling training skills.
Is that your comeback? Wow, you impress me, how old are you? 35? 40? Do you still live with your mom?
projecting much pal? you're actively shilling against larger than life wrestlers, so you must be a little manlet framecel
Get enough buzz words in there/
Sho Sho Russo, you live in your fucking parents' basement at the age of 50. Stop making threads on Yea Forums
Spotted the incel
>tfw the jobber to a lower midcarder looks more credible than 95% of current roster
>tfw said lower micarder would be the top guy today
wtf happened lads?
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Damn, it took like 80 posts for the sizequeens to appear, that must be a new record
We've been Wrath posting for half the thread ya goober, clean your glasses.
Why don't you just go watch gay porn?
LOL you size queens are so bizarre.
Fair compromise
even vince russo looked more credible than 95% of the roster today. People today unironically like Danial Bryant and think he's a legit draw
You are literally using tranny-tier language, congrats. Seethe harder manlets
These shittiers only "look" credible until you see them gas out before they even finish getting to the ring, any one with any athleticism would have them on the ground in 5 minutes.
So if people like him doesn't that make him a draw?
Also if you he wasn't a draw then why is he the third highest paid wrestler on the roster. Only behind Brock and Rhonda?
nobody outside of the wrestling bubble knows who he is. only marks and blacks like him
Why do skinny midgets always cope with shit like "cardio" and "technique", no one cares bro, no one ever cheered for someone's cardio
2000 WWF was fucking trash, it was only their best year because all the work prior culminated then, it's all downhill from there
why would anyone want a wrestling match to last more than 8 mins. Only marks like to watch 30 min fake fights
Does not answer the question
Why do closeted homos always talk about how big the guys need to be?
Because it's literally what makes for larger than life stars, why do all hollywood leading actors have muscular physiques and 10/10 faces? hmmmm
If you put Chris Pratt in a wrestling ring you'd be calling him a no-dimes midget lmao. Fucking Daniel Bryan is more swole than him.
>6'2 guy vs 5'8 guy
Yeah, I wonder who would look more impressive...
This. DX and Stephanie in their leather couch calling shots every week.
Chris Pratt is better looking and a better actor. he would draw 20 times more dimes than Bryan
>Goldberg
Star far before Russo showed up, if anything he fucked Goldberg's WCW career up more than anything
>DDP
Star far before Russo showed up, got fucked hard by Russo and was pushed into embarrassing gimmick matches constantly
>Steiner
Was starting to get pushed as a major part of nWo far before Russo showed up
If Bryan can't draw for shit then why did Vince give him a new contract with a huge pay raise and creative control to keep him from drawing for ROH?
The swole lumberjack looking guy. aka not Pratt. and Pratt first started drawing dimes by playing a fat Hoosier retard, and the only other films he's known for are "MCU sequel" and "Jurassic Park sequel"
In no universe will a 5'8 guy ever look better than a 6'2 guy
>height is everything.jpg
>picture of a roid freak with a rat face and a nigger tan next to a slightly taller normal-looking person
what did he mean by this
Yeah, the mainstream knew who fucking Wrath was
Sizequeens are the most delusional people on this board, go back to the closet, faggot
Shitstain doesn't know what he's talking about and if you actually listen to any of the crap he spews you're fucking braindead.
>If Bryan can't draw for shit then why did Vince give him a new contract with a huge pay raise and creative control to keep him from drawing for ROH?
i don't know faggot. I don't work in the wwe financial department. Go call triple H and ask him why he's paying Bryan so much money.
Shut the fuck up. I have listened to him and he is absolutely correct what needs to be done for wrestling to be entertaining again. The show is fucking soulless crowd pandering bullshit with no storylines, no character development, no rhyme or reason. Just wrestling for the hardcore marks to see.
Maybe he was proving his point???
Normies who don't know shit BTFO by based hardcore fans
>doesn't deny being a closeted homo
>Something is that panders to someone else but not me is automatically bad
>If Bryan can't draw for shit then why did Vince give him a new contract with a huge pay raise and creative control to keep him from drawing for ROH?
Because the casual audience has been decreasing for two decades and they're fighting for the attention of the hardcore fans, aka the only people retarded enough to still watch this shit. Same reason why they're signing up all the smark favorite indie "talent" they can get their hands on.
>Noticing men's physiognomy is gay bro!!!
sounds like you're the one in denial of your sexuality bro
well, technically im sure more normies knew who wrath was in 2000. Since, more people weren't embarrassed to say they watched wrestling back then. So, i guess Kronik, in 2000, was more mainstream than Bryan today.
nowadays i hear people say shit like
"wow, that wwe fake fighting shit is still on TV LOL... I used to watch that when i was 11 lol"
So by default Kronik is better than Danial Bryan
What is the point of just having wrestling matches for no reason? Just coreographed move exchange. Eventually you get bored of them. Literally makes no sense, go watch UFC or ballett if u want to see that. Wrestling has always been about storytelling and characters.
>getting worked by my cornette post
Are all of shitstains fans about as dumb as he is? What the fuck.. *sips sprite zero*
Literally. Even at the end WCW had more viewers than WWE do now
>Can't refute that Bryan is a draw
>Instead calls names and deflects
Holy cringe and delusion, call me when Bryan Clarke sell out a 70k stadium
He's wrestled in a lot more than Daniel has, Nitro used to do stadiums every week
I don't know why they are paying him so much money.
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back in 2000 they were paying Scotty Riggs 100,000 a year. why would any compay give Riggs that much money?
like i said i don't work in the financial department so i don't know why they pay people so much money. its none of my business
KEK
Samefag poster appears again
Scott Norton wrestled in a 150k stadium in 1995.
So scott Norton is a bigger draw than Danial Bryan?
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>people spending all day defending Russo on an anime image board for free
Unironically go outside
What do you do? Reply to said Russo threads.
I've only posted once, you should really seek some sunlight. Or employment
>Lose argument
>Call the other side losers for caring enough to win it
New Day, unironically. They were over as fuck for a year and a half or so.
>That feeling when I'm actually black
>That feeling when I have a white girlfriend
yikes
Yes Blacked is the most over porn company aswell
lol he is in the blacked video as. one of the cucks
>completely moves the goalpost
Nigga stop with mental gymnastics, if you say Inoki or Flair were bigger draws than D-Bry then sure, I'll say you are right, but you mentioned some dude that was in the undercard, so no, keep seething over based Bryan.
Russo destroyed two companies creatively, and nearly destroyed a third.
Trust me, he has no place in today's world of wrestling.
That troll doesnt work anymore brother
Wrestling's fake, dude
18+ kid
He's an Olympic gold medalist.
Didn't he have full reign in TNA for almost ten years and accomplished absolutely nothing?
He brought TNA their hightest ever ratings, but it wasn't full reign. Spent a lot of time under Bischoff who did nothing but slow things down.
Nah, there were Jarretts and Dixie of course. Dixie would come with suggestions he took straight from Keller lmao. And TNA got TV deal with Spike and at one point drew close to 2 mil people, where are they now?
the olympics arent mainstream
Wrestling is supposed to be like a comic book come to life. It's bizarre that you *don't* want to see larger than life, colorful, good and evil characters beating each other up.
Not skinnyfat manlet dweebs who are just happy to be there and entertain. In the context of kayfabe, that doesn't even make sense.
i want to see good workers not big freaks
>2000 was only succesful and maintained ratings because of the momentum and character creation of previous years.
Everyone knows this. This isn't new. Acts like Too Cool, the Hardys, even Trish and Lita would have never reached their heights in 2000 if they didn't have a massive amount of momentum and new fans watching.
Define 'good worker'
causation vs correlation
next thread please
Finn and D-Bay are better workers than Kronik.
Russo wasn't the head of creative during this time. Jarrett had the final word on everything and the team consisted of Cornette, Tenay, JB, Jarrett and Russo. Both Dutch and Corny have stated that they had to minimize whatever over the top idea russo had in mind. Mantell was in charge of the knockouts, the division who achieved tna's highest ratings.
07-09 tna had plenty of good booking and stupid russo stuff in the same show, that's why fans wanted russo to be fired, everything but his segments were great.
Memeltzer seriously has a problem with Harlem Heat going into the HoF? What a shit.
>Mantell was in charge of the knockouts, the division who achieved tna's highest ratings.
no the main even mafia brought the highest ratings
kevin trash making stupid faces into the camera brought the highest ratings
Probably has more to do with the fact that Stevie Ray was the Janetty of Harlem Heat and nobody’s exactly clamoring for the Midnight Rockers to go in
>TNA was a carbon copy of WCW in 2000. Absolutely filled to the brim with Russo booking tropes.
>H...he had no creative control. It was all Jarrett and Dixie.
Imagine running damage control this hard for some wop who got exposed as a fraud 19 years ago.
Lol where was TNA when Russo was there? Where it is now? Hmmm..
Wrestlemania 2K pretty much shows you that its all downhill from there. The main event is about how awesome the McMahons are along with their new boy Trips. Hell if Smackdown didnt exist as its own brand and behind Brock Angle Benoit and Eddy makeing the Ruthless Aggression era so good it would have been years of Hunter burying everyone and the company would have nosedived ever harder