>WWE issued an Email blast pushing the 2019 WWE Survivor Series pre-sale in Chicago, advertising the following match for the PPV:
>*In a Survivor Series Elimination Match, Team Raw - Roman Reigns & Braun Strowman & Drew McIntyre & Finn Balor & Bobby Lashley vs. Team Smackdown - Kevin Owens & AJ Styles & Randy Orton & Samoa Joe & Rey Mysterio.
Sadly, the end of the stupid brand split isn't in sight and MUH BRAND is still more important than whatever feuds are going on at that time.
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OP here. Fucked up the title.
OP is a faggot.
WWE has too many wrestlers employed.
You really thought it is ending? Why? Because you don't like it?
FOX bought current SDL, or rather SDL that was there last year around this time.
What lead you to thinking that they will end it?
There was a report awhile ago that said FOX didn’t want co-branded PPVs because they didn’t want to advertise wrestlers that were from another network.
Because FOX and USA didn't pay $2+ billion for half a roster each you dumb fuck
That was from Meltzer so it was obviously fake
aren't these subject to change? also there's a shake-up scheduled for 8 days after Mania so it's seems odd everyone advertised is on the brand they're on right now
>mentions Meltzer for no reason at all
Rent free.
>user mentions a report
>it was from meltzer
>you think I made it up
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yikes!
>half a roster
They have 2 rosters with more wrestlers employed than ever before
Why are anti-Melterfags so obsessed with Dave? Even his most adamant supporters don’t remember as much about what he says as the people who are against him do.
Okay, that's called trying to troll me
Do you have n actual fucking point or are you going to try to troll me again when I proved you wrong?
>claims to hate Dave
>remembers literally every single thing he has ever said
What did ya mean by this?
They want fucking everybody when they pay that kind of money. There is no fucking way, WWE could divide all the big names equally to appease both network. Who gets Brock (who only wrestle on PPV)? Who gets Ronda?
Just look at what is currently happening, unexplained roster jumps is happening more and more frequently. Wait till the ratings and viewership starts to tank, then all the big stars are appearing on every show, it's inevitable, it's how Vince's brain work.
Of course the brand split isn't ending, SDL is going to a different network. If anything, it will get more strict. You realise without the brand split WWE will essentially be advertising a rival network on Fox and vice versa, right?
>You realise without the brand split WWE will essentially be advertising a rival network on Fox and vice versa, right?
Why the fuck is this a bad thing? Getting more eyes on your product is bad? I know it's hard for your minuscule brain to comprehend without being told what to think by someone with higher intellect so I will make it easier for you. Why do they have a Marvel universe where superheroes interact with other superheroes in different movies?
It's called "cross promotion" look it up sweet heart
Both of them paid for what the show looked like when they were buying it.
If you were a TV executive and you'd be shown already split rosters and several SDL episodes, at the time they were buying the show, would you have known it is only "half a roster"?
You maybe think you know that the executives are making informed decisision based on drawing power of the performers, but you are just a random smark. The brand is a draw. Not the roster strength. (that's what WWE higher ups would tell anyone)
Oops, should have went further down the thrad before writing this because you are the guy who still thinks in terms of drawing power, while that is not the case any longer
Roman came back and ratings are still in a freefall. There is no longer any real draw in wrestling, at least in WWE that is not WWE itself. Maybe Cena, but even his presence hasn't been able to sell tickets for the Xmas tour this year.
Lol
>Both of them paid for what the show looked like when they were buying it.
No, they are buying the show based on ratings and how it'll affect their ad rates.
>would you have known it is only "half a roster"?
Yes, because I'm not a dumb fuck. I would want Brock and Ronda on my fucking show.
>You maybe think you know that the executives are making informed decisision based on drawing power of the performers,
read again what I wrote. I said The TV network would want everyone regardless of drawing power.
You tell me
>Why the fuck is this a bad thing? Getting more eyes on your product is bad?
Because why the fuck would Fox want to advertise USA you fucking brainlet? This may be a difficult thing for you to understand, but Fox isn't paying $5b for WWE's benefit, they're wanting eyes on THEIR network. Of course they'd be fucking pissed if WWE was pushing their viewers to USA, ya fucking moron.
>but Fox isn't paying $5b for WWE's benefit
Just for info, before you fuck up more
Fox is paying 1 billion per whole 5 years, not ONE BILLION A YEAR.
They are paying 205 millions a year.
you're an idiot for thinking that that match will happen
What is cross promotion? look it up dummy.
Nobody is pushing viewers to other network you absolute retard, it's the same product with the same people by the same company.
I can tell from your ESL and you probably live in India but TV shows advertised on other TV network all the fucking time, that's how you got visibility for the show so more people get to watch it. FOX viewers are not necessarily USA viewers and vice versa. 1 is a network TV and the other is cable.
>Nobody is pushing viewers to other network you absolute retard
That's LITERALLY what they're doing, you fucking idiot. You think Fox will want to cripple their Monday programming by reminding viewers on Tuesday to turn OFF their channel to watch the continuing storyline from SDL? Fucking idiot.
Fuck off, you literally have no clue about TV in America or too stupid to understand.
Mate he brought up a good point.
So let me see.
On Monday Ronda will call out Sasha. USA will tell you - please go to FOX on Friday, because Sasha will answer!
On Friday Sasha will answer first and Ronda will attack her backstage after Sasha's promo in the ring. It will lead to match between them advertised for Monday on different network.
This is how you think it will go?
No, what I meant is the talents will float around the brand more often than not, they will have a brand specific feud as in one feud played exclusively on one brand when the feud ends, the talent can feud with someone from another brand.
Example. Kofi is feuding with Bryan for the title in SDL, Bryan lost the feud, show up on RAW to feud with Rollins or Roman or whoever the fuck is on RAW at the time. McIntyre can show up on SDL to challenge Kofi.
The thing is that what you propose is bad for house show loops and how so far those have been done. And house shows are important paydays for wrestlers. Not important for the company, but for the people working for it, they are there to make money.
I don't disagree with you, but I think you put too much stock into TV executives knowing that they want whole roster. They probably don¨t know that the roster is split now.
They dont even keep brand extension in place right now.
Sasha and Bayley are on NXT and SD.
Kurt Angle is jumping between brands.
Ricochet and Black are on Raw and SD.
Samoa Joe recently had a match on Raw.
Rey will have a match on Raw on Monday.
Becky and Charlotte are on Raw and SD.
Vince does what Vince wants. Brand extension is just a branding to bait people into watching one show or the other.
why is it bad for house show loops?
you do know there was a time when there is 3 crew running house shows in 3 different cities every weekend right?
Not only can you have Roman and Rollins headline one house show while Bryan and AJ headline another, you can mix it up by having Roman and Bryan headline a show while Rollins and AJ headline the other.
Having talent float around the brands is actually better since they won't have the same exact fucking match night after night and show after show. You want to build up Black and Ricochet to challenge The Revival, instead of having them beat The Revival multiple times, have them beat The Bar or The New Day instead.
>you put too much stock into TV executives knowing that they want whole roster.
i think you are narrowing too much on a single point that I made, what I meant by they want the whole roster is it's all hands on deck, they want ratings, they don't want to hear we can use this person because they are on another brand.
because with how the fickle Vince is now (as seen on Tuesday, giving title to Charlotte on 3 hours notice), if the brands were not separated, people would be champions of brands while touring with the other brand still
>they want ratings, they don't want to hear we can use this person because they are on another brand.
I know I am focusing on this point too much. But I think you give too much weigth into thinking someone is a draw.
I don't think having Brock show up three times on SDL would give it better ratings. I don¨t think having Ronda both on SDL and RAW would make the show must-see. I think it is not the roster that is the draw. I think it is quality of storylines and need of the viewers to watch it right now, live and not few days later or just few clips of stuff that is interesting to them.
>if the brands were not separated, people would be champions of brands while touring with the other brand still
so? the titles are a prop anyway. Who is main eventing the RAW house show? Brock is the Universal Champ and he haven't done a house show loop in years. Or you could always have the champions of a brands exclusive to a brand but their challenger on house shows can be from another brand. You are nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking.
>I know I am focusing on this point too much. But I think you give too much weigth into thinking someone is a draw.
Yes, you are and you somehow tie ratings and someone being a draw together as the main point of what I am trying to make.
>I don't think having Brock show up three times on SDL would give it better ratings. I don¨t think having Ronda both on SDL and RAW would make the show must-see.
>I think it is quality of storylines
I agree, by having a floating roster, the quality of the show would improve when your top guys doesn't face the same opponent over and over again, or you do a fucking shit finish because you can't beat either guy. There is a lot more options and more matches with a floating roster and guess what WWE is already doing it right now. The women's tag titles are floating between brands. In this few weeks, wrestlers are already working matches in different brands.
>S-stop using logic! YOU ESS AY YOU ESS AY
Brainlet.
US networks are okay promoting each other for free?
usually not for free but they do promote each other.
RAW is on the USA network, they had people from SNL on the show which is on the NBC channel. Cena and Roman went to Good Morning America which is on the ABC channel. ESPN did an interview with Ronda, Becky and Charles, is that not promoting other network?
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Recent events on wwe tv suggest that the brand split is ending. Anyone with a brain can see that. The tag titles will be next to get unified. And before you say “what about the world and secondary titles”, remember that it took 3 years after the og brand split ended for the WHC to be unified with the WWE title
But outright saying "if you want to follow this storyline, tune in to the sister show on another network instead of watching ours"? That's absolutely fine? The situation you described promotes WWE itself, which you could argue is their own subscription Network
who the fuck said "if you want to follow this storyline, tune in to the sister show on another network instead of watching ours"?
Read You cross promote the show, not the other network. WWE could just do a storyline where they went, that's The RAW women's champ, what the fuck is she doing on SDL? This motherfucker from SDL just challenged the IC champ on RAW.
the obvious question from the hypothetical tv exec should be that if the brand was such a big draw why does the company have to keep raiding the indies for talent
how is a tv show full of anti-draws supposed to draw? if you take away the wrestlers there's no show
>hat if the brand was such a big draw why does the company have to keep raiding the indies for talent
They don't know that. Investors have been sold a lie that Shinsuke Nakamura is great NXT success. Listen to their conference calls, for the first time ever there have been a question about some other promotion and that was in relation to AEW. And Barrios (I think) answered, that they (WWE) has the best talent and the best show in the world.
If people who make money out of WWE don't know that WWE keeps raiding everything in sight, how the fuck should a fuckign TV exec that is being sold a bill of goods know that.
>how is a tv show full of anti-draws supposed to draw?
I keep banging my head against the wall, right?
You don't get it. You think in terms of "draws". That is not how anyone in TV business thinks. They do not look at it like "if we put Stone Cold on top we get this many tickets sold and this many PPV buys". They look at time spend watching, minutes consumed, demos reached, type of ads they can sell, live programming, 52x2 hours per year for basically peanuts compared to their other programing.
They do not see "DRAWS", they see TV show.
>who the fuck said "if you want to follow this storyline, tune in to the sister show on another network instead of watching ours"?
Because that's what you're going to get with a joined roster ya fucking brainlet
why do people get this mad on Yea Forums especially about fake fighting?
the amount of seethe in this thread lmao
They have no idea what they're doing in November. They went from Fatal 4 way Number 1 contenders match to title change in the span of 2 hours. The brand split could end tomorrow.