Was it a work?

Was it a work?

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I'll give you a hint; the marks are in the ring

yes but Bret forgot it was

No but Shawn thought it was.

no he didn't, shawn and HHH knew ahead of time specifically to be prepared incase bret hart legitimately lost his shit and tried to murder shawn michaels or vince mcmahon on pay-per-view

It really speaks volumes what a fucking carny business wrestling is when people assume that MURDER is a possible outcome to losing a fake fight for a gold colored prop.

no but meltzer once said there's a secret that won't be revealed until everyone involved passes away

Partially - Brett believed he wouldn't get screwed and thought he'd go out champion and drop the title that night thanking his fans at home since he was in Canada but HBK and Vince had other plans.

No, HHH Was not involved, neither was Hebner. Hebner was just trying to not get fired and did what Vince said.
The only people who knew were HBK and Vince

Ya mean he'll make something up then

>HHH was not involved
Not entirely true. He was one of the people who made the suggestion to simply screwjob Bret according to Prichard.

No. Anyone who believes it's a work is trying so hard not to get worked that they work themselves into a shoot, unironically. In hindsight it turned out really well, so some people say it must've been a work, but there was no way of predicting it turning out so well at the time. It's the same as the curtain call. There was no way of knowing The Kliq hugging in the ring would cause a domino effect that create the industry's biggest star ever, SCSA. There was no way of knowing Montreal would've created Mr. McMahon until after it happened. People say the documentary would have no point without the screwjob, but in reality it most likely already had a narrative direction before the screwjob, which obviously made them change the narrative of the documentary. Not everything's a work. Bret got screwed for a shoot just like Kevin Nash in the summer of nineteen ninety-two.

That'd be Pat Patterson. He's been a Meltzer source since the early 90s

I didn't respond properly. The "secret" was that Pat Patterson was fully in the know beforehand. He was the "office's" side of the story because Shawn and Vince refused to give comment at the time.

worked work shoot that was being presented as a shoot shoot but eventually broke down to a regular shoot due to bret's self-markdom

this was back when wrestling was full of alpha males who were intent on keeping their spot at all costs.

did they?

Pat always pushed for the people he jerked off to, whether it be Shawn, Rocky, or fuckin Renee Dupree. I've no doubt that the reason Pat confided in Dave was because he found him more attractive than Wade Keller.

Nope
Metlzer's pulled the same card for years: there's something I know but can't say anything until it's the right time
And the right time is when nobody fucking cares and he "reveals" some bullshit claim

Most likely that either Brett took a few million for it or that Undertaker was involved and it was a work he threatened to walk out

Dave is an autistic savant to the nth degree, but one thing you cannot take away from him is his loyalty to his sources. Pat Patterson is one of those sources. He's not gonna betray the guy for something like this
So, no, you're wrong, it was absolutely the fact that Pat knew.

As an addendum, Undertaker never "threatened to walk out". If anything it was typical Carder fake tough guy posturing that he's well known for. Same with the "Taping his fists" episode at WM14 that Shawn wasn't even aware of.
Reminder that the exaggerated story is always far more interesting than the truth, almost always.

The fuck, so many versions. What is the TRUE?

HHH making the call is basically canon at this point. Shawn said it in his book and on documentaries. Whether he had the balls to speak up or he took the hit for Shawn is up for debate, but yeah, he was absolutely the one who pitched it to Vince.

This is just revisionist history.
The entire point of that lie is to make HHH into something clever.
He was never the mastermind he wants to be.
HBK won't take credit for it since "I'm nice now!" Nash and Hall don't give a fuck/won't fuck up their legends contracts.

While I do know for a fact he was put up to suggesting it, he wasn't the idea man - he the fucking idiot kid who did what the older boys told him to do
They all admitted he was only there to be the driver anyway

It makes all the sense in the world for Hunter to be the one to speak up on that conference call. Whether Shawn put him up to it or it was Paul's bright idea, it happened and several people can vouch for it.
In the end it doesn't really matter because the fact is, as Shawn wrote, Vince was thinking the same thing, he just needed someone to say it.

Oh I mean him being behind it is revisionist history.
He's been playing that card for decades the moment he got with Steph officially. He wants to be seen as the guy to take over WWE and he won't be

It was never portrayed that he was "behind it". He was the guy to speak up and basically "say what everyone was thinking". Makes sense because if Shawn had said it, Vince would probably have rejected it.
I think Vince saw HHH as a neutral party even though he was obviously in Shawn's camp

"The secret" is that there's an unknown party that got into Bret's ear that made him change his mind which started this whole thing in the first place, and they were playing both Vince and Bret. From what's been told, Bret was willing to go along with the original plan until right before the Survivor Series event, but for whatever reason changed his mind at almost literally the last minute.

If it happened on Vince tv, it was a planned part of the show. This includes Owens death.

When you put it like this, all I can think is the Wrestling with Shadows documentary with Honky Tonk Man in the limo with Bret. Maybe it was fuckin Honky
Honestly I just think that it comes down to Bret didn't want to lose to Shawn for the second straight match.

>it was the fucking Honky Tonk Man that was responsible for the screwjob
fucking lmao if that would not be the greatest shoot ever

So we don't know the true. We are all marks.

What if they were trying to work a worked shoot but the worked shoot got too shoot so people took it as shoot and got worked into a shoot by a shoot work?

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I love both Shawn and Bret. I wish they were better friends and that Bret had joined the Kliq.
This whole thing was really unfortunate in hindsight.

mmmm wrestler's court...3am...Hotel conference room. Bring a pen, 3 pieces of paper for your essay, a bottle of Jack, and 5 large pizzas. You'll get 20 pure strikes for each mushroom I find on it!

>work a worked shoot
So if they were pretending it was real but it was really pretending
>the worked shoot got too shoot so people took it as a shoot
So the people involved got too "real", broke kayfabe and people (I assume the fans?) thought it was real
>by a shoot work
But it was really just fake?

It's possible I guess

Bret and Shawn would have been reconciled by the year 2001 if Owen hadn't died. It really wasn't a big deal until then.

>dedicate your life to something
>your entire livelihood depends on your image
>''hurr why would someone be mad his image got fucked''
Simps like you killed the business.

his image wasn't tarnished though, if anything he became more popular and his fans more rabid (deranged in the case of bretcuck)

He got screwed by his most hated enemy on home soil. Also getting betrayed by your business partners like that would make anyone mad.

your turban is too tight, you sound like a fucking mark

Bret screwed Bret

kek, bretcuck btfo
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t.Paul

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