*work a joshi legend into a seething shoot in your path*

Something tells me that "feminist cat mom" doesn't lead to being good at punching

Another mentally ill puro Twitter poster.

I hope she gets a career ending injurt but I'm using ostrich from now on

AJW was drawing crowds of 10k+ in the golden years

How many domes?

>Feminist. Witch Bitch. Pro-Nazi Punching. OG 5 Feet of Fury. Cats (cat mom of 2!)

She probably thought she was so clever and cute when she was writing all of that down. Why is puro twitter so much more cringe than the vast majority of wrestling fans?

Uncle Dave told me that's revisionist history and they only did a 10k+ show a couple times

I wonder what Toyota would think seeing people like this white knighting her.

>in the golden years
>not now
Irreverent

Puro twitter is truly a special kind of autism

I hope bea starts outright disrespecting Toyota, work all these marks into a seething shoot

>Buncha marks on both sides debating about moral ethics about using a fake fight move

Holy fucking autism

Why is every puro Twitter depressed?

Even as cringe as puro twitter can be these 2 are honestly just as bad.

jesus fuck, begging these people to have sex. It's a fucking fake fighting wrestling move.

Where did Toyota seethe? All I'm seeing is a white bitch REEEEing and white knighting a fake fighter and her fake move

twitter.com/marukomariya/status/1108903749970362368

Taichi said something about it also

Based. twitter.com/taichi0319/status/1109421440367906816

>dare

Fucking based Toyota with the bants

Also, Rossy twitter.com/rossystardom/status/1109136386798477312

>Edgy cringe heel worked

Cringe

She's also stealing Toyota's elderly, haggard face.

>Goes to do it again just a few hours ago after this controversy
Based or cringe?

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Based because I like the move, cringe because Bea is cringe

Literally who and who?

Ya seethe?

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basado clearly

Rossy wants her to completely destroy her reputation and career for this. He cares as much about her as he does abot HZK's neck. It's all for the money. Not mention he and Toyota hate each other.

BISCUITS AND GRAVY, MADE ME A MAN OOOHHH BISCUITS AND GRAVYYYY MADE ME ALL THAT I AM

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>Not mention he and Toyota hate each other
Why?

HZK?

Nope, but sounds like your idol was

He means Hazuki.

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Most old-school joshi hate Rossy because he's a creep, a perv and a con-man. He's been in the joshi business a long, long time and it goes back to AJW. There's a reason he uses children and clueless girls in his company. People who know stay away. Rossy is going to milk this so it probably in Bea's ear telling her to keep it up. Ospreay is too because from what I've learned he's dumb as box of rocks and actually used to seethe on Twitter about other people "stealing his" cruiser-movez #6 shit.

Almost every joshi uses children and arguably clueless girls these days, though. So why him specifically? A perv? Isn't that most of the joshi audience? Plenty of other joshi promotions put out photoshoots of the girls as well as Stardom. Who did he con? And Stardom is and has been full of women who are not children and have been around with other promotions and they have a low turnover rate. Why would they stay or want to come to Stardom if he's supposedly that bad?

>Almost every joshi uses children and arguably clueless girls these days, though. So why him specifically?

Why him specifically what? Why does Toyota specifically hate him? I don't know. I just know that the old-school joshi mostly hate him and won't work with him.

>A perv? Isn't that most of the joshi audience?

Mostly STARDOM, TJPW and Ice Ribbon. Oz Academy, Sendai, Marvelous all draw a mix of fans many of whom are long time joshi fans.

>Who did he con?

LOL. He's a pro wrestling promoter. By the time this is over he'll have STARDOM marks believing he invented the move and told Toyota to use it.

>Why would they stay or want to come to Stardom if he's supposedly that bad?

Because he's a con-man and STARDOM is good at promoting itself. If you think these girls are being paid well and treated like professionals...whooo boy. Notice how many girls never cycle back through the company? If Priestley had done the move outside of Japan this probably wouldn't be an issue. But the fact it's Rossy and STARDOM and she specifically handed it down to somebody is why Toyota is pissed. People calling Manami Toyota a "mark" lack basis knowledge and awareness at how stupid that is. She probably wouldn't know 90% of your favorite wrestlers if she tripped over them. Now this couple is trolling this and in true wrestling internet fan loserdom, is pied piping STARDOM fans and Ospreay fans along.

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>all the japs in the comments telling her to shut the fuck up

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I understand Tsukka but why Ikuto Hidaka?

>all the japs

Bullshit. There are just as many Japanese fans backing Toyota up and telling Preistley to show respect. This is STARDOM fan faggotry pushing this meme, in Japan and everywhere else. This is the same people calling Manami Toyota a "mark." I mean HOLY SHIT how clueless do you have to be to say that shit when you're stanning for two nobodies trolling one of the greatest wrestlers that ever did it.

Priestly is dogshit, but you absolutely ARE a fucking mark if you go on twitter to complain about someone using MUH MOOOOOVE

I mean why him specifically when basically every other joshi promotion does the same thing these days. Isn't he just doing what everyone else is doing for modern promotions to survive? Or does Toyota hate modern joshi all around? Does she hate Meiko for recruiting kids? Yes, he's a pro wrestling promoter. That's his job, just like the equivalent of every other joshi or wrestling promotion. Again, I don't get what makes him special here unless Toyota is just one of those bitter old wrestlers who hate everything about the business these days.

From what I've read, they are being paid well by joshi standards and as well as can be. So much so that Kairi took a paycut to work in NxT. She came back to visit, along with Io sometimes and seems to speak highly of him. I see Yoko and Yuzupon coming to see him with their kids. They can't all have been deluded or underpaid, or they would want nothing to do with him and would warn others, instead seem to speak pretty well of him. Kairi, at least, wasn't some clueless idiot with nothing else, she was a uni grad who did stage acting before joining. Doesn't seem to add up here.

Nobody has called her a mark, but a self mark. There's a difference. I don't know if I agree or not, but claiming nobody else can use a move you invented seems a little self important since I don't think it's ever been done. I mean, didn't Toyota herself use plenty of other wrestler's moves, some of them of much bigger fame than even herself? What makes her so special in this regard? I can't help but think I'm missing something, or she kind of has her head so far up her own ass I can see why people would call her that.

You're actually saying Manami Toyota is a mark? That's what you're saying? You can pretend to be a smart fan, but think about how stupid that is. You should learn what a mark is before you go around calling somebody one. You know what Toyota isn't? On a Yea Forums pro wrestling being a cunt 24/7. Who's the mark? Also, in joshi there's a tradition of handing down moves when you retire and most other girls show the respect and creativity to not swipe it.

That's the male wrestler she generously permitted to use her move. Unless you mean why she chose him over everyone else, then dunno. Friends maybe.

It doesnt matter how legendary your fake fighting resume is. If you think that a move you made is just too important and legendary that nobody else should be allowed to used it youre a self mark complaining about absolutely nothing worth while.

If Undertaker went on twitter and complained that Lance Archer is doing Old School, you would be laughing your ass off at his stupidity. But because shes A JOSHI LEGEND YOU JUST DONT GET IT GAWD she has a point? Fuck outta here.

Doesn't this bitch realise that the Japanese are even Bigger Racists than Whites?
Or that they were the single most Hardcore Axis Nation?

> Isn't he just doing what everyone else is doing for modern promotions to survive?

Obviously not, or everybody would use the formula he stole from Ice Ribbon.

>Or does Toyota hate modern joshi all around? Does she hate Meiko for recruiting kids?

LOL. Wut?

>gain, I don't get what makes him special here unless Toyota is just one of those bitter old wrestlers who hate everything about the business these days.

Holy fuck dude, are you stupid? The two go way back, probably before you were born and certainly before you watched joshi wrestling. It's probably a mix of business and personal.

>Nobody has called her a mark, but a self mark.

Fucking cringe.

> I can't help but think I'm missing something, or she kind of has her head so far up her own ass I can see why people would call her that.

You're missing something. You're the mark, a STARDOM mark, and you're struggling that your land of worship might be tainted. Same shit happened when Yoshiko shot on Act, everybody ran into denial mode. Word or warning - siding with Rossy is risky.

How come more wrestlers don't bitch about people using their moves? Hell, didn't Toyota use a moonsault? Did she get the express written permission from Mutoh? Who invented the german suplex? I can only imagine how many people he or she could bitch at for ripping them off.

Hell, who first did a standard strike? Imagine how much money in royalties they could have earned by now if they had trademarked it!

its super dumb to get mad over whether someone has permission to use a move. Almost as dumb as expecting them to ask.

Shes a self hating fatty with no self awareness. Of course she doesnt know anything about other nations past atrocities.

Who the fuck are you to be making any of these claims about what is important or allowed? You're literally nobody who never made a dollar off pro wrestling and is nothing but a whiny bitch customer on the interwebs. The mark is you junior. Fuck outta here.

Isnt Bea a member of QQ? A heel stable? She should start 'stealing' more and more historically significant moves.

Imagine if Preistley's boyfriend would post "LOOKS FAMILIAR" with .gifs on twitter alluding that other wrestlers stole his moves. Imagine that.

Hey look it's the "this is what is dumb" police of pro wrestling. I heard that's a tough job to get.

Oedo Tai is the heel stable

>it's dumb to expwct some common courtesy or respect in the business
You'd never make it with the wolves, kid

youtube.com/watch?v=LXVinVj8vWY

Figure Four: Rodgers
DDT: Roberts
Moonsault: Guerrero
Romero Special: Romero
Piledriver:Longson
LIONTAMER: HAHAHAHAA
MUTA LOCK: HAHAHHAHAHAHA
Manji-gatame:Inoki
Rolling Cradle:FUnk
Shes a fucking self mark buddy, get over it.

Most other joshi promotions do similar, hiring children and attractive/idolish types and do some photoshoots on the side.
>LOL. Wut?
You listed one of the reasons as to why everyone hates Rossy as him recruiting children. Meiko has a 14 year old working for her. And most promotions do similar. Unless being a pedo is the implication, but again, I don't see how he'd still have a career if so.
No, you idiot. Why the insult? That is why I asked. If they go way back, that makes more sense, but most of the reasons you listed are basically the same shit other joshi promotions do these days, thus the question.
>Fucking cringe.
What? I just went by this thread, since only one user called her a self mark. Although some other user now seems to have misused mark, but that was after my post.

Projection much? You're coming across as kind of an insane nutcase now. I rarely watch Stardom other than a few matches that get recommended a lot, certainly not enough to be called a mark. The fuck are you sperging about? The only reason I know as much is because I follow Kairi and Io since they're mainstream now and read up on their careers and former work and checked out a few matches here and there. Everything from them I've learned doesn't paint the same picture you're giving. Thus the question about Rossy.

Twitter fags in here.

Firat off as someone pointed out if this was done outside Japan this wouldn't be an issue. Second, what proof do you have she didn't get permission for at least the Muta Lock? Third, none of those moves are anything like the move in question as far as why it's not permitted. These examples are shit.

Using the Liontamer around the few years that Jericho would have actually been working in Japan? That isnt at least similar to you that Toyota would just start doing someone elses finish? Grow a fucking brain.

>common courtesy

Pretentious expectations aren't common courtesy. No one needs permission for a move, nerd.

Has kobashi ever gone a Twitter rant complaining about people doing the burning hammer

just waiting for bea to show more tits

It's a Boston Crab from a high angle. You think that's high-honored and sacred? Don't be an idiot.

>That isnt at least similar to you that Toyota would just start doing someone elses finish?
No.

No because hes not a fucking retarded self mark that cares about people stealing his moves in front of 300 old men jerking off through their pockets.

>high-honored and sacred
wait, is this what the puro autists think about this random ass move?

Exactly

>You'd never make it with the wolves, kid

This is the same level of faggotry who are calling Manami Toyota a "mark." People should learn the competition she faced to get in to AJW and then survive there. Toyota lived with and fought the wolves more than some little bitch on the internet, let alone a flippy WWE mark like Ospreay and his bitch. This idea that TOYOTA is the mark, snowflake in this situation shows how fucking stupid fans are these days. Reminder that Toyota made her livelihood and was able to retire at 48 from ACTUAL marks filling her pockets for DECADES.

I don't think he's seen it done in Japan. Like Toyota didn't notice Bea using it until she saw a results page even though she did it weeks ago.

It's not pretentious.

>It's a Boston Crab from a high angle. You think that's high-honored and sacred? Don't be an idiot.
And the OCS is just an electric chair suplex with a stright jacket. You think thats high honored and sacred? Dont be an idiot.
Also
>high honored and sacred
holy fucking cringe get a job you fucking loser.

MUH GET OVER IT. Go read the Tokyo Sports article where she addresses the minor moves.
If you call Manami Toyota a mark, you're basically the dumbest type of nigger there is. Get over it.

It's not random, that's the point brainlet

Name me 2 other women doing it currently in Japan not named Bea or Fujimoto

Shut up manic.

Why is this move such a big deal? Isn't it basically just a modified electric chair drop? It's not that special, surely.

what's special about it besides "toyota did it"

>It's not pretentious.

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Nobody has ever cared about "move stealing"

That move looks terrible, more proof that women can't wrestle

Because you think of it as just another move because you're programmed to. There's a reason you don't see it from anyone else for decades besides her and 2 that she's passed it down to.

Toyota's stature place in history. Same with Kobashi.

It's a highly sacred move that is protected by Japanese law, user. No other move is as important.

Nobody cried about kawada drivers or tiger driver 91 in the ring.

Are you that faggot supersmark.

You know very very little about wrestling then.

burning hammer was special because it's basically attempted murder, and kobashi barely ever used it

that ocean suplex what the fuck ever looks cool but not particularly devastating. did toyota use it sparingly or something?

even then wouldn't call the burning hammer "sacred"/

>because you're programmed to
Youre literally arguing for some jap that someone shouldnt be able to use their fake fighting move right now. Despite the fact that she regularly adapted other peoples moves for her own use.

This move would be cool if performed by people and not snails. Once she's up it takes way too long to send her down and doesn't end up looking that rough considering such a drop.

There was probably permission asked for and granted if done during those times.

>It's a highly sacred move

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Misawa was dead when Kota did it.

Stfu.

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Fuck off back to Twitter, mentally ill faggot.

He's dead and has no descendants who took it up from him. That's at least viable. Tell me about Emerald Flowsion.
>Stfu
Calm down.

>Because you think of it as just another move because you're programmed to
This sounds silly. You could just as easily say that it's a scared move to you because you're programmed to do so. The reason is because she doesn't want others to use it for personal or egotistical reasons. There are plenty of bigger stars with more famous moves that are being used by people. That's because they don't try and stop people from using it. I'm not even saying she shouldn't be able to do so, even though I think trying to stop people from using a wrestling move is hilariously silly no matter how venerated you or the move may be - I don't think I've heard of another wrestler doing so - but the only thing that really makes it so special is her trying to protect it so much. There are plenty of more special/iconic wrestling moves in terms of execution, impact, danger and yes, even fame and from bigger names. They just don't have their creators protecting it so much.

No. What's your next move?

Manami Toyota
> Debuts at 16 years old
> Retires at 48 years old
> Makes her entire living off of pro wrestling in the dog-eat-dog era when the marks were outside the ring
> Definition of a Professional Wrestler, aka makes a living off it her entire working life from BEFORE High School.
> Considered one of the greatest ever by people who know, wrestlers and old-school wrestling journalists.

BUH I'M A FAN AND SHE'S A MARK BECUZ REASONS!! MOVEZ ARE MOVES! I KNOW I WATCH PRO WRESTLING SINXE THE INTERWEBZ!!

Fuck off.

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ITT: adults arguing over a fake fighting move and telling each other to calm down

Probably laugh tonight when I remember some delusional retard was ACTUALLY arguing that some woman shouldnt be allowed to a move because A LEGEND innovated it.

Self marks don't expose the business. So she is cool
.

Kiyomiya uses the emerald flowsion, he never got 'permission' from misawa

I'm laughing at the people frothing at the mouth over someone using some shit suplex variation

You don't go using a move mid-match though if that happens to be your opponent's signature move. As long as Ospreay's woman doesn't use it against Toyota this is literally a non-issue.

You are ridiculously upset over some old gook who took up fake fighting for a living.

Seems like Will and Bea are the ones seething

Marufuji probably. It went to him afterall.

>wrestlers can't be marks if they're "legends"
Good to know the real life Shawn/Bret hatred never existed because neither were actual self-marks.

How? They don't seem to give a shit. I'm not a fan of them or defending them, but seething is the last thing they seem to be doing.

As long as Bea continues to use the move I doubt she'll be the one seething.

I'm laughing at a literal nobody thinking anybody cares that he's a fucking faggot.

>They don't seem to give a shit
Except Will gets into his whiny Twitter shit literally any time he gets some sort of heat.

Faggots seething over this is starting to make me like Bea. Stop it, I don't want to like her.

You have a real ego if you actually think I give a fuck what you think. I mean, look at yourself dude. you're a fucking mess on a pro wrestling board.

SEETHING

He hasn't though, so what the fuck are you talking about?

Yeah yeah. Now fuck off back to puro twitter already.

Because he deleted the tweets. He even acknowledged he did.

Toyota might have been great but she never taught fujimoto how to draw a dime

They're trolling, which is seething for pussies. Holy shit you Yea Forums niggers don't even understand your own faggot memes. Seething isn't a thing, it's a deflection when you yourself are being a cunt. Just like "Reddit Spacing" when you have no other argument. Toyota is riding her numerous Harley's around Japan in retirement from a pro wrestling career neither Ospreay or Preistley will ever have.

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Ya fuming

LOL. There is no better pussy reaction.

Here

Now You Can

Also complain about MUH SPACING

LOL. I bet you didn't even leave your house today on a weekend. HAHAHAHAHA

Shida took the key with her.
It seems like she's lost it, though.

>They're trolling
Correct, and they've clearly trolled you hard

Ice Ribbon was already drawing big dimes way before Toyota came on board.

Where did he acknowledge this?

Take a breather, step away from the keyboard and remember that Toyota doesn’t even know or care about you. You’re like a seething 15-year-old girl after her pop idol’s been insulted.

Boiling

I just identified they're trolling. So how am I being trolled if I know I'm being trolled. Damn you guys really are the dumbest motherfuckers. This is what happens when you replace thoughts and discourse with memes and YAH SEETHING! The Rule of Goats kicks in.

You really do seem upset though.

You're real worked up for someone that didn't get trolled

>Where did he acknowledge this?
twitter.com/WillOspreay/status/1109272719235801089

Riveting.
Scathing.
Yah constipated?
Yah flagellating??

I'm sitting at my computer watching TV and drinking vodka while coding. I mean don't get me wrong I like to unleash on the losers in this shit hole but it's more because I'm mean then upset.

You’re proof that puro Twitter fags are mentally ill.

>Japanese ocean cyclone is a sacred move, it's disrespectful for anyone to use it without permission

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Sure I am. Totally worked up. I'm SEETHING. Give me a fucking break.

Agreed.

I'm literally proof that the shit you guys circle jerk each other over is for the bottom-of-the-barrel. I love when suddenly you guys get all pushed back on your heels because really you're just pussies and cowards and come to anonymous boards and post anonymously on twitter because you're weak and sad. This happens EVERY time with you weaklings.

Get a fucking spine.
You crumbling?
Yah crying?
Yah weeping?
Yah having trouble paying bills?
Yah parents hate yah?

Lad calm down before you have a stroke.

Fucking worked weeb loser

If Nanae was still around she'd fuck Priestley up

Dog it's fake fighting don't take it so seriously

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What exactly is a self-mark?

Toyota

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Kek

>depression constantly
yeah no shit

Holy fucking seethe

Plenty of tokyo dome shows back in the AJW years.

Wrong. It was only one and it ran for 10 fucking hours for whatever reason and half the crowd bounced

She also used to be a huge Shimmer fan, until she got banned from going to the shows for accusing the fans of being rapists on a podcast and accused Prazak and Allison Danger of putting their roster at risk of being molested for profit. Don't worry, both her parents recently died so karma already handled her.

>Be such a crazy bitch you get banned from shimmer of all places
Lmfao

So, it's just a bridging Electric Chair drop? That move sucks.

>then upset

OH NO NO NO NO

PURO BRAINLET ETHERED

Holy fucking seethe

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Look at these doods..

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who?

She's one of those nips who isn't Hana. No one important.

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Imagine getting trolled by these two. kek

Unmarried dyke who rides men's bikes.

Whoa, what was her reasoning? Did something happen at a meet & greet to prompt this?