WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH INDY SHITTERS?

I speak for Yea Forums that if you don't live and breathe this business, deep in your bones, in every post, in every moment of your life you don't really love it. If you wouldn't willingly give your life or suffer a debilitating injury in the ring as a performer for the good of the business, or turn down millions of dollars to put on wrestling clinics in front of 100 TRUE WRESTLING FANS in a 'bingo hall' if only for the love of the sport, they aren't a real wrestler worth respecting. Fuck a family and kids, it's all about the business first if you really love PRO WRESTLING.

>All non WWE wrestling is VFW parking lots for $15 pay days

Read a book.

Gallows has literally said that he never wants to quit. He wants Karl to have more kids so they can tag together until they're old as dirt.

so nobody else can have them

Or, maybe, juat maybe, they think that if someone DID use them right they could make more money. Or, heaven forbid, they actually want to do something fulfilling with their life instead of grinding their bones away for another billionaire.

>Or, maybe, juat maybe,
Go back to r/sc

If you really love something any hardships are worth it.

Is AJ the only new japan guy thats hasnt failed w hen called up to the majors?

What is so good about these guys exactly? All I ever saw was big awkward guy giving big boots and the smaller manlet one going HIYAH when he kicked.

They seemed pretty cringe, that and the nerd gimmick.

Reminder AEW owner is 20 times richer than Vince

Japanese style wrestling is a lot different stylistically. Buddy Murphy is a good example of a WWE wrestler that does it really really well.

Its like how Lucha is a very distinct style.

Wtf is that?

Karl needs to go back to Japan. He was on the cusp of breaking out when he signed to WEE. It's not too late to go back and take back his spot as the favorite gaijin especially now with Kenny gone.

Also
> implying WWE money means shit when you have to pay for your own travel accomadations and get left off PPVs therefore missing huge bonuses
There's plenty of guys making money without WWE and without breaking their necks every week. Anderson and Gallows have been around a long time so I'm sure they don't need to be McMahon slaves for s decent living.

Chad 2 Badd and Sex Ferguson are based as fuck.

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But none of the good brothers moved like Buddy Murphy or had his intensity. They always seemed liked they were moving in slow motion.

I just hope wherever (AEW) they go they get to bring HOT ASIAN WIFE with them and she actually gets to show up.

Being a tag team act in WWE fucking sucks. Vince hates tag teams and the division is pretty miserable. It's pretty much 'Be The Bar, The Usos or the New Day or get fucked.'

She has no interest in being involved in the business.

If they are offering millions of dollars now, 6 months before the contracts expire, imagine how much Vince and Paul will be offering in August, when AEW has 2 succesful sold out shows under its belt and TV show starting.

The bald lads are being smart, doesn't mean they are leaving.

Yes but AJ will always be known as a TNA guy, same with Christopher Daniels, Austin Aries, Frankie Kazarian etc

WWE is just a shitty employer is all. There's a way more competitive job market for pro wrestlers now.

You consider Finn Balor a failure?

>Is currently the champion based entirely on pinning the weaker half of a team, some black twink
>Ran away like a giant coward from the actual champion after doing so

I wouldn't say he's doing amazingly

Those are all ROH guys, silly.

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What's worth more?
Your dignity and self-worth... or the numbers written on a piece of paper in panic?

To people that love their job, they'll go where they're respected rather than where people throw numbers at you and false promises out of panic for someone else having you.

holy fucking mark family first ya simp

AEW is paying far more money, dipshit

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Better than getting the same for doing it for a hotdog and handshake

If Vince has all the talent then his competition doesn't have any, which means Vince won't have any competition.

AJ is also a WCW guy so it's not surprising he found success there.

I don't even care that Gallows & Anderson were great in NJPW and were part of the Bullet Club. They fucking SUCKED in the WWE. Their time there demolished their stock. Even as a Who Japan fag myself, these guys scream WWE shitters.

If they're being used like shit how are they gonna make more money, brainlet?

How can the fans miss you if you never leave?

based

so did the botchmania ripoff fail?

I remember this pasta.

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Oh, money by far. My nephew always asks me why Ruby Riott always loses and I say every time "she's not a mark". It's fake. Would you turn down a million dollars from Hollywood because you couldn't the hero in a movie?

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They know their worth, they'll draw more dimes outside the E. Even more so because of this public departure

Anderson is, in my opinion, one of the best American wrestlers working today. He is just underutilized in WWE and I think he could be a big deal if given a singles push and mic time. I think he should have been HW champ in Japan- at least IC

You can't take the Indy out of a shitter.

Jobbing day and night while earning 60k a year sounds like a dumb mark to me

what other job can she can get that would pay more?

Definitely going AEW

I just want Talk N Shop back.

Who said she had to work at another job? Just don't be a mark jobbing day and night for 60k

When and why did they got released in the first place?
Maybe WWF is just bad with employees or contractors.

Reminder that every great wrestler is a mark for themselves

Hogan, Macho, Flair, Austin. All marks for themselves.

To be fair Gallows has always sucked. The real team was, and always will be, Anderson and Giant Bernard.

They can get similar money in AEW, and then 2-3 years down the line have AEW and WWE bidding, resigning and languishing with WWE in their position would be a huge mistake.

Karl is fucking awesome on the mic and their character and in-ring work was awesome. The problem is you never got to see it because Vince didn't let them do it. They never talked unless it was that word-for-word scripted, over produced trash that they force everyone to do, and they were forced to wrestle WWE's slow awkward style. That and shit booking is why they never seemed special in WWE

So the one winning on the indies for $150 a night and whatever they can make off merch when they could job to Ronda Rousey in 30 seconds on PPV for at least what two or three grand isn't a mark? I suppose you and I have different definitions of what a mark is.

That's assuming AEW is still around. I mean TNA is still going, but have you seen the show lately? It's a glorified indy.

>They fucking SUCKED in the WWE.
Not their fault. You would suck too if you were forced to read your promos off a script written at 3 in the morning by a kid fresh out of community college and booked to job to every other team on the roster. You can't get over unless you're allowed to.

They are not leaving

>They can get similar money in AEW,
lmao they already blew most of their money
>2-3 years down the line have AEW and WWE bidding
havent even debuted or made it to year one

they might regret this in a few months

If they tell you, the one credible heel on in your show's division that's not a fat shit to go out there and job in 30 seconds and you say yes, you lack value in yourself . No one mentioned "muh indies" about this, i specifically said she doesn't need to leave the company or profession to avoid this.

Your version of a mark is someone who eats shit for the money, whether it pays like shit or not. The fact that you're eating shit in the first place with no protection of yourself as a performer for shit money in a billion dollar corporation is 100% a mark, the geeks just happy to be there.

>Doing labor at all

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> job in 30 seconds and you say yes, you lack value in yourself
Or you know you're playing a fictional character on a TV show.
>mark is someone who eats shit for the money, whether it pays like shit or not
No, my version of a mark is someone who doesn't realize it's a performance and insists on winning when the script (and it is a script) calls for them to lose. A mark is someone who would rather work with literal whos in front of a crowd of 50 for $50 just so long as they can win.

AJ succeeded in the majors before he went to Japan

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No, that's why they are abandoning Vincetty and going to get paid by big dimes Khan

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>39 years old
>kid or two
>hot asian wife
fuck it i'll go back on the road with the other marks like Cody and Omega instead of earning a guaranteed contract until I retire!

>Or you know you're playing a fictional character on a TV show.
If you're not trying to get that fictional character further up in importance then you're already on the road down cuz there's no point in you. Sure Ruby got 15 minutes with Ronda the next night, but nobody cared, Ronda kicks out of your finish twice and beats you and your stable of geeks up afterwards to solidify your place. You're making 5 digits in a 10-digit company but hey at least you "made it".

>No, my version of a mark is someone who goes out of their way to let themselves be walked all over and "wait for their time" (it never comes) and doesn't protect themselves in any way
>No, my version of a mark is someone who doesn't realize it's a performance and insists on winning when the script (and it is a script) calls for them to lose.
This sounds like the talk of some geek who got burned because the other guy wanted to protect themselves. Austin saw Marc Mero get powerbombed on TV by his wife before they were gonna work a match and he knew wasting his time on a geek like that would harm his worth so he told them to switch that shit up like a smart guy. You get told you're jobbing on PPV in a title match in mere seconds when you've had an even okay amount of credibility beforehand, lose to that same woman again the next night, then lose in 2 minutes to some vanilla bitch who only gets by because she's nice and there's no storyline reason or followup to excuse it, and you say yes to all that? The only thing that comes to the mind when going through all that is indeed "mark".

Nobody fucking mentioned indies so keep that out, that's not the point.

The thing is, Good Brothers are not even on TV. So they are not even making that money.
If they are offered better pay from AEW, why wouldn't they take it?

Throwing words like mark around willy nilly. Don't you think a guy who wrestled for fucking Great Power Uti in some african hellhole doesn't know how to play the game?
Don't you think he doesn't know that playing this shit out right now will make him MORE MONEY IN THE END?

I agree with leaving for more money, of course.

The creative fulfillment is just them playing it up, so they are made champions and are on TV and get some storylines and are used and talked to by people who decide creative things for talent.
In the end it would mean the management wants them to stay. And makes them better offers.
Also I am very amused by all these people being surprised by wrestlers using dirt sheets to bolster their price.
THAT IS WHAT WRESTLING OBSERVER WAS IN THE PAST.

yep cause the gay

>miles
This is why people want to leave WWE these days. 300+ days a year on the road is fucking terrible

they can get an equal contract from AEW while working with their friends and getting actual TV time.

I hate each and every one of you. Slaves thinking they have all the answers and thinking people you don't understand are stupid or crazy. Fuck you all.

They will make good money in AEW, and work half as many dates. Also booked much better. Why would they stay in wwe?

They simply don't want talent to leave and possibly become stars somewhere else. They rather pay jobbers millions just to not book them.

Yes.
Especially the way they have used him the past year.

>Multi-million dollar deals for two couch sitters

Wtf is wrong with WWE? Are they that threatened by AEW?

Let's see

>WWE
>Currently on 250k
>Half to pay your own travel and board
>Have to turn up to shows even if you're not on
>Do 250+ shows a year

>In NJPW
>150k a year
>Free travel
>Have to pay for board
>Work 50-60 days a year, mostly in multi man tag matches

I dunno I'd rather go with the more money for less work option. AEW will only be more lucrative due to the obvious block filmi

>Only things that matter are money and miles
G&A were paid 500k between them, only used on house shows, and worked 250+ days last year, with no expenses.

>Earns 1m baseline
>Gets to design his own merch, does very well
>Despite not being used well, still a top merch seller and hugely popular

What you just said there doesn't matter, he's not a mark.

Bases

Vince doesnt want talent to go anywhere else. So yes he'd rather pay you and not use you, than let you go somewhere else and do well.

>no expenses

WWE wrestlers pay for their own travel and hotels.

Yes that's what I said, moron.

This. Why the fuck would you work for WWE knowing you're going to be overworked and underpaid, with no compensation? Vince is basically keeping these guys on retainer so they don't work elsewhere

You said they have no expenses.
Travel is a major fucking expense.

I said "with no expenses" right after highlighting their salary and work schedule, you absolute moron. Why would I mention them not having expenses in that context? Get your head out your fucking ass and stop ignoring context. Is English not your first language? Idiot.

Plenty of drones itt i see

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Gallows and Anderson both suck. Only losers actually think these two jabronis are any good. Lmao there are so many stupid pieces of shit here.

Because Vince is based and gives you tons of money just for being with the company a long time, even if you're a jobber who never even works.

Why would wwe give millions to some simps not even on TV

They didn’t and wouldn’t. These guys are aging sucktards who’ve never drawn one dollar in the US. Just hype.

Gallows and Anderson haven't been with wwe that long. It's been like 3 years.

Man it must be sweet working for vince. get paid millions doing jack shit and hang and wrestle half naked with cool dudes

but he literally can't pay for the entire wrestling industry, especially when mexican, japanese and british wrestlers keep training in their native countries, wrestling will either die by vinces hand or outlive him to be a carny act again but at least it wont be as shitty as it is now

What are the Good Fellows doing in the Impact Zone?!?

I feel that good brother

And they're not on TV for at least a full year.