Tfw Undertaker is going around crying breaking kayfabe, Ronda your champion draw is breaking kayfabe...

Well if it makes you happy nobody outside of wrestling knows him.

For some strange reason every ex-fan knows Bret Hart, Undertaker, Randy Savage, but many don't recall HHH until you bring up DX.

>The company was entertaining when Vince was in charge before he got super old and let his kids and yes men have a say.
Mate.
It all comes down to Vince. He decides if some shit segment gets on air. He decided to have Drake Maverick piss himself, because he liked the wordplay of AOP with "pee"...
Stop trying to blame anyone else. It is Vince.

Mate.
Ya frick off me mate i'll wreck ya, straight deck ya, ya bloody trash mate, ya rubbish, stupid little wanka, oi mate, ya boyish, bring the pressure play the game and i'll test ya, oi, fuck off mate.

Maybe if he weren't surrounded by yes men that segment wouldn't have gone through. Maybe it wasn't his idea but just said "fuck it this midget and his injury prone clowns need to be taken down a peg."

>still triggered by the kino piss angle
Reddit is calling for its wayward child

I gave you one example. There are many more.
I don't understand why you simps have to shift blame to someone else? Can someone explain to me the logic behind it?
Maybe seeing how the shows are bad will somehow taint your good memories of when you had fun watching them in the past?
I don't get it.

That was just one thing that I immediatly recalled, because people disliked it a lot. I don't watch the TV shows, I pick and choose matches to watch. I'd rather watch other shows where I know I will have fun for the whole show and not just one match.

I explained to you that before, it was good. When these other people joined, it sucks. Dumb mark.

You sound like you're going insane.
Worked.

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So it sucked for 17 years? How old are you?

Oh well that would be the end game hopefully, and Shane takes over.

Precisely. The biggest winners of people blaming not just Vince McMahon but anyone backstage are the people directly responsible for the decline in quality of what's going on in the ring, because they are the ones in the ring. And that's these four.

Yes, backstage forces have more control than they did in, say, 1997, and who has gone furthest in taking advantage of that shift? Who does that scripting and phoniness EXIST FOR? These four.

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>Phil
Nah, Brock

>be NXT
>most people there are big stars in the making
>get people to main roster
>boss gives them nothing to do/feeds them to his midcarders
>"LOL NXT is a failure lmao"
Fuck off.

No one but Dave Meltzer thought WWE sucked in March 2002. 18+.

I guess you realized that you really, really cannot answer to me, huh.
Or do you have something to say about ?

Yes? How young are you?

>Yes? How young are you?
So.... you are telling me that you have been watching shit TV show for more than 10 years? (let's be real here, there were probably some periods it was good, even if there were those other evil people who took whispered bad ideas to Vince's ears, he overode them and made a good show out of it)
Tell me how long was WWE TV good for? 10 years maybe?

I don't really get the point of your post when I already said Vince intentionally buries the nxt shitters. Dumbass.

No I actually don't watch wwe, haven't in years. I'll catch a match or segment once in a while if it gets posted a lot around here and shit. You seem upset though.

And before you ask me to answer your question.
I will be 33 in a week. But I first watched a wrestling match/wrestling show in 2014.

>You seem upset though.
No I just wanted to understand the reasoning of someone who will try to blame anyone but Vince because of they dislike the show.
I don't understand it, unless it is some kind of defensive mechanism.

>But I first watched a wrestling match/wrestling show in 2014
Cringe, and I say that unironically.

Get outta here ya bloody faggot

Why?
Non-answer. Running scared ya little bitch? Cannot cope?

This 100 percent. I dont understand why so many refuse to blame Vince, other than being an E drone. Don't forget this is the same idiot that almost lost the Monday Night Wars due to the same shit. It was only because he got so desperate that he quit trying to micromanage that the company was saved. When he got desperate enough, he let the bookers do what they do. The writers do what they do. The talent do what they do. etc. That the company pulled out of the abyss. Once WCW folded, he fired anyone that would say no or say Vince this is a stupid idea. Now he is surrounded by yes men. Basically from 2005 forward has been all Vince. That directly correlates with the shittyness of the product.

Dont forget this is the same dumb ass that absolutely refused to push Austin when he started getting hot. Despite his whole team begging him to. Just because Austin did touch his homosexual tendencies.

One day e drones will realize Vince is complete shit when it comes the actual creativity and wrestling part. He was just a good business man that was handed a company.

Because at 28 years old you decided to pick up a new hobby and that was pro wrestling, something people usually get hooked on as kids and have trouble letting go. You saw the declining ratings, the fact that pro wrestling is seen more and more as embarassing and decided to hop in when all the real stars left. And then you think you can talk about pro wrestling like you're an expert despite only watching it for a few years. Cringe.

Bait or cringe

those are the only four in the last decade who could use a live mic

This is like judgment day, only fitting all of it magically lands on today - the first day of "Women's History Month"

Are you the person who said English isn't your native language?

If you can't look at this from the standpoint of someone who was watching during the Attitude Era then you won't understand either them or the Vince McMahon story.

For about 24 years, from Rocky III to the Edge/Cena feud, wrestling was not just a "TV show", it was MUST SEE. It doesn't matter how many years go by during which the domestic enemies infiltrating it have buried it with exquisite staleness.

You really think that of all people in the world, it was one of the main guys responsible for it, Vince McMahon, who gleefully threw it all away? No. What happened is that about 5 years after he won, 5 years after 9/11, WWE has a crisis and two men from later to be joined by the other two could extort whatever they wanted because Vince McMahon needed top guys, top babyfaces. That's what happened, and it hurts him more than any of us could know.

And I am not making up a narrative in my head, bro. It's just the facts!

Hidden in plain sight.
I like your style.

normal people dont know who Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels are. They always remember HHH because of Chyna

>You really think that of all people in the world, it was one of the main guys responsible for it, Vince McMahon, who gleefully threw it all away?
Because he decided to shift business from selling tickets and single buy PPVs to being content provider. And is making more money out of that? He is probably happy with the outcome.
Why should I care about ratings decline? What's in it for me? I only care if I am entertained. Why should I care about it not being mainstream? Because I cannot talk about it with my friends? Before Lord of the Rings hit cinemas, I couldn't have talked about fantasy books with people. Before Harry Potter came out, it was the same thing.
After Game of Thrones started I was sitting at the pub listening to my friends talking about characters that I knew had to die. And when the episodes where they died aired I kept receiving messages from friends saying how could I do that to them, not telling them to not be attached to said characters?
My hobbies were always nerdy niche things. I am not ashamed of that. Why should I?
>He was just a good business man
This.

>Bret Hart

Nigger made a cameo in the simpsons back when it meant something. And he was on 3 epiosdes of Bad tv. People knew him.

>everyone trying their hardest to be the next stone cold with 0 charisma and no dimes being drawn

Vince is just mad that Hunter put kids in Steph before he could