Kenny Omega Thinks NJPW Should Start a Women’s Division

– Kenny Omega discussed NJPW’s practice of not bringing women’s wrestling into their product during a new interview. Omega took on the topic during an interview with Tokyo Sports and said that he believes New Japan should get a women’s division up and running.

“What I think that New Japan is lacking these days is that girls can’t be part of the game,” he said (thanks to Fightful for the translation). “At the CEOxNJPW event that I participated in last year, I proposed to New Japan to put up a girls match. After all it was refused, because, ‘It’s New Japan’. It is 2019 now. I think that women and men should be on the same stage, and most of the women who I think are good are in Japan.”

There are a variety of points used by fans and analysts in the debate over why New Japan doesn’t incorporate women’s wrestling. One of the most common arguments is that it’s simply not something that New Japan fans have ever demanded, so there is no impetus to bring them in. Others have suggested that New Japan instituting a women’s division would decimate the rosters of joshi promotions like STARDOM, Ice Ribbon, Sendai Girls Pro Wrestling and the like, who have found success promoting a product that NJPW has no influence in.

Omega noted in the interview that he suggested Aja Kong and Yuka Sakazaki for AEW’s Double Or Nothing show, and has been in conversation with freelancers such as Ryo Mizunami of Pro Wrestling WAVE.

“For example Ryo Mizunami is a wonderful wrestler.” Omega said. “I’m not only talking with DDT and OZ (Academy) but also with WAVE and Gatoh Move. I’m also talking to freelancers. I also want to talk to various organizations.”

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>most of the women who I think are good are in Japan
Based joshi smasher Kenny

>Kennetty trying to ruin the competition already

Yikes!

Thank God he fucked off

>"DDT is my home."
>Leave for New Japan, shit on them after winning the G1, run back to them when he needs a favor from them
>"NJPW is my home"
>Leave New Japan, flag as the worst evar a month later

Kenny was the Suruga Mei poster all along

How many exclusively women's wrestling organizations are there in the US though
Japan is fine as it is. There's something for everyone there

Western civilization was a mistake

He's becoming a Foley-tier creep when it comes to women wrestlers.

why should they listen to some guy who left their company and trashed them on the way out despite getting the most preferential treatment?

He’s such a faggot

AEW is just going to be WWE with worse production values, isn't it?

>It's current year, NJPW should get a women's division
>AEDrones actually worship that fag
APOLOGIZE

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Why Canadians always gay up the place they are in?

Nah, it's going to be DDT but with the Young Bucks instead of Dino.

Because they love him and he's coming back for a feud with Ibushi and to wrestle in the G1.

Somebody got on the Meltz about NJPW and other promotions not having women and he said the same thing: Japan has joshis, so the male promoters don't need women.

I agree and have been trying to get WWE to separate the men and the women for the last few days. The women need their own brand, separate from the men.

He's "scouting" joshi to be in AEW, aka giving them the Johnny Ace treatment.
This article will result in him with more Joshi pussy for him, more dimes for his company and more waifus for us.

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No wonder Howard didn't like him. What a fucking simp.

>this is going to resurrect the women in new japan debate AGAIN

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How much do wrestlers get paid for doing the g1?

Ah yes, please add women! Women are top tier quality!

There should never be a person on your roster that isn't eligible for your primary championship. Like, why are they there is they can't win the title? That's why women only promotions are better and why DDT gets away with women on their roster (because they wrestle the men).
The real issue in the West is that there's no history of women outside of being undercard novelty acts so they all suck. They should absolutely be separated, which would be controversial with all the SJWs on twitter.
Putting women in NJPW would be retarded.

Funny how he says this only after leaving.

There are only 3 that promote often: Shimmer, SHINE, and RISE

Canadians are such faggots

He’s 100% right

He got to book his pedo friend though so he shouldn't be too mad.

>Top guy in NJPW, doesn't say shit about bringing in women
>Leaves NJPW, immediately states they should get a women's division

Nice convictions, stupid.

>"people" on this board worshiped le wacky hijinks gaymer man

>Kenny Omega thinks NJPW should kill every Joshi company and destroy what bargaining power women have
BASED AND REDPILLED

Does Kenny forget that a large majority of NJPW's fans in Japan are women and children? Women don't want to watch other women wrestle and women(mothers) don't want their children to watch scantily clad 3dpds knocking the shit out of each other.

Can't wait to hear how Dave "NJPW MEN ONLY IS THE JAPANESE CULTURE" Meltzer spins this

>know how puroresu works
>know that joshi have their own promotions
>knows STARDOM has a working relationship with ROH (who works with NJPW)
so Kenneth is shoot retarded then, I always wondered desu

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>tfw every single day you realize more that Kenny, though a great wrestler, was a fad for New Japan and that's for the best

Hopefully he comes back intermittently cause he can still work a hell of a match but I'm glad he's largely contained with the rest of the shitters in their gay little company

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There's a ton of small time, shitty companies popping up, like GirlFight that Pondo started before Crazy Mary got signed and dumped him. The "Top" ones though are still Shimmer, who do dvd tapings 2-3 times a year, and their 2 "developmental" companies Shine and Rise, who barely run once a month and Rise is constantly crying on twitter about needing more fan support before they shut down. There really needs to be more options so these hos stop fucking up all the other indies.

>It is 2019 now.

based Chadblade

>I agree and have been trying to get WWE to separate the men and the women for the last few days.
>I have been
Bruce, is that you?

He followed Mayu and Arisa Hoshiki on twitter a while ago, probably wanted to bring them in to AEW. Then Mayu big leagued him.

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Even her pits are disfigured, Jesus Christ...

He's right ya know. DDT have even had women win their main belt.

It's fake fighting. Everyone knows this. Nobody has believed it's real since wrestling started being televised. It's theatre. And people want a good show. And guess what, ya incel faggots? Women can be MORE entertaining than men.

NuJapanlets need to grow up and get with the times.

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Yikes

Unironically cringin' at ya

@6269620
(You)

DING-DONG DIDDLY CRINGE

And DDT is dying

Kenny just wants to casting couch joshi ya pencil neck geek

tranny detected

as long as they have separate PPVs I'm totally cool with that

DDT is a Sports Entertainment parody/comedy promotion, they do wacky shit like [subject related] because its intentionally stupid ya ding-dong diddly simp

I always see the "it's fake fighting" argument, but it doesn't add up. To me you don't want to remind people that it's fake every opportunity that you get. Intergender never looks good, besides the time Minoru beat the shit out of Kana, but know one wants to actually watch that.

Pleb who doesn't know about DDT detected.

It works in DDT because of the presentation of DDT. It wouldn't work in companies with presentations like NJPW has. Takes minimal brainpower to realise this. And even in DDT the women are lower card acts.

wrong. they do serious puro too. go watch Meiko beat 2 other men to win the belt and tell me it was a comedy match. they do everything except traditional blood filled deathmatches.

I don't see how this is an issue when Stardom and Tokyo Joshis exist. It's not like the women have no opportunity.

Get these white faggots OUT OF MY JAPAN!

>Ibushi
>Reunite Golden Lovers
>Feud again because hurr durr hurr he signed a multimillion dollar deal with his Elite butt buddies

Its amazing how quickly the opinion of Omega on this board has turned around after he signed with AEW and revealed what a shoot faggot he is.

Friendly reminder that DDT is a hypeless shithole right now (and has been for a while) and are relying on Sendai Girls to draw the Korakuen house AGAIN. Giving the belt to Meiko was much more like a must when they did it because they wasting 4 months on a disjointed, horrendously booked angle that makes Brock/Roman look like Dusty vs Flair.

there’s literally nothing less progressive than making women sideshows to the men. There’s a reason Japan is the home of good women’s wrestling, it’s because they can be presented as stars.

You've never watched DDT, have you? They have the gimmick that it is a pro wrestling company so a blow-up doll can be a wrestler and a banana can win the 24/7 belt and Joey Ryan can win a match, but that's just as "off the wall" as the idea that Tyler Breeze can knock out his opponents with his iPhone (WWE did that btw) or that ZSJ could hurt anyone with a kick or that 6 guys standing there waiting while some dude gets in position to jump on them is.
DDT has a lot of the best workers in the world.

>It works in DDT because of the presentation of DDT.
wtf are you blabbering about? they treat their big matches as seriously as new Japan big match. they just have way more variety than new japan

it isn't wrong dipshit, every Japanese fed has to have their niche it even exist. Just because they don't do wacky shit all of the time doesn't mean DDT isn't centered around stupidity

>DDT presents itself as pro wrestling so Dino raping a dude is a submission hold and YOSHIHIKO is a believable wrestler.
>this is somehow not true because Takeshita Vs Endo 60 minutes match
presentation doesn't mean "every match is comedy lmao" you fucking reading age of a 7 year old mongoloid.

DDT isn't known for the serious stuff though. They're the power point, wacky antics fed of Japan.

>compares DDT to WWE trying to imply it isn't a sports entertainment parody promotion
hahahahaha

>he saw some DDT gifs and they're all about wrestling in the woods
lmao@u

>this is AEW main stair
its dead on arrival

>They're the power point, wacky antics fed of Japan
And they promote this as the main attraction for all their big shows, not the 'real' puro matches, don't they?

>have no counter argument, better just lel
stop posting

Are you literally illiterate?
>the "wacky" things they donate no more wacky than anything else in pro wrestling which is why it all works in DDT
>"Hurr durrrrr you must be idiot ! ddt is parody that is words someone posted before so u can't compare them to other things that are comparable to them !"
Kill yourself

Women watched women’s wrestling when it was at its most popular. Shut the fuck up if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

>Women don't want to watch other women wrestle
wtf are talking about?

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Yikes.

I'm not saying what they promote, I'm saying what their perception is to people who don't follow em, because that's the first thing people think of.

>they treat their big matches as seriously as new Japan big match.
Here's the build to their big Sumo Hall main event

>Heel sends heel faction members to his opponent's parents' restaurant to eat their and dash without paying.
>The heel attacks the face in public and gives him Hurricanrana down a flight of steps after reversing the face's Brainbuster attempt down the steps
>Face gets revenge by attacking him at a lounge and giving him a Brainbuster on a stool
>Heels gets revenge on that by covering the face's car with rule 63, big-tit waifu versions of each other and his faction. The face is wondering how he could get to his gym with his car like this, and the heel gives him the weakest Pedigree possible on the roof.

Want me to tell you about the Sumo Hall main event before that?

>ITT: nu japanlets who fell for “the joshi scene is healthy” meme because that’s what leddi told them
yeah i sure love watching joshis wrestle in basements full of submale perverts because they won’t ever run the full configuration of korakuen

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>what I think everyone thinks something is is what it is
That's powerfully stupid. DDT don't even market themselves outside of Japan so you don't even know how they are perceived in their actual market ya pinhead.

So a company drawing just fine should bring in these proven anti-draws just because it'll make some smarks on Twitter feel good?

>women will draw better if we give them the Yoshihashi spot on NJPW cards!

Takashita vs. Sasaki was comedy match, wasn't it?

So, the stance is either:
>the joshi scene is healthy, it doesn't need New Japan glomping onto and overrunning it to make them low-card acts
or
>why would New Japan as a business reliant on touring have any interest in hiring a subset that provably can't draw while touring

It's either bad for Joshi and NJPW, or just bad for NJPW while doing fuck all for Joshi because if you think they're getting anything other than scrap contracts and undercard filler then l m a o ya simp

>>DDT don't even market themselves outside of Japan
>Running a streaming service with several attempts at having English commentary for their shows
>have an English account to translate every promo and report
>A president who has already talked about the global potential for of their joshi brand
>Running a full USA show promising the same show they would have in Japan
Sure, dude. Sure.

Is Kenny pure onions ?

No but it was a boring ass match with a lot of Takeshita's movez happening

They got a show mania weekend and their streaming service boasts ease for English users. Anyway about perception, I can't make claims of how they're percieved in Japan. They don't seem to be lighting the world on fire attendance wise though.

Can’t wait for NXT Japan to come in and pick up the slack where nujapan fails. Sure they’ll be stealing talent, but at LEAST they’ll also be helping a scene from going fucking extinct. Joshis will sign with WWE and still work their promotions because guess what? They need MONEY.

Nu japan has a social responsibility to protect the puro scene, and if they don’t want to then someone else will.

>but at LEAST they’ll also be helping a scene from going fucking extinct. Joshis will sign with WWE and still work their promotions because guess what? They need MONEY.
>Nu japan has a social responsibility to protect the puro scene,

No they don't mark. They have a responsibility to make money.

Ahahahahaha just like they saved the UK?

>women's promotion books men
>nobody complain, people find it enjoyable
>men's promotion suggested to book women
>NUJAPANLETS AUTISTIC SCREECHING ENSUES
INCELS

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DDT is wwe style sports entertainment, it's not marketed as a legit thing
It's also my favorite promotion right now

Why should women's wrestling promotions only be allowed to book the opposite sex? Double standard much?

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>People who don't want to see shitty filler midcard women's matches are autistic incels.
Yas queen, slay em!

>women's promotions book bigger stars irregularly
Good thing
>men's promotion should book lesser stars regularly
Bad thing

Why is he such a white Knight for the joshis?

Look at their audiences, most women don't actually give a shit about current women's wrestling.

There's almost never a "male offer match" on a joshi show and have to he integrated with the women for a sideshow attraction

Because he understands the core audience for AEW are autistic fair-weather weeaboos and E-Drones who flip their shit for womeme's wrassling and anything Japanese because they want to be viewed as progressive and intelligent.

>Mayu Iwantani is a lesser star than YOSHI HASHI and 90% of the New Japan roster
YIKES, what a incel!

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The joshis are actually based as fuck

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>YH is in New Japan, the biggest wrestling brand in Japan
>Mayu is not

Mayu's a lesser star than more than 90(+)% of the New Japan roster purely down to the fact that she's not involved in the front-running brand.
The only ones she eclipses undeniably are the Young Lions.
And no New Japan aren't obliged to hire her and give her a boost.

uh, wrong!

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Funny how those fucking simps whining about it ignore the people who actually understand the wrestling culture until the one guy with an agenda who they were shitting on for months says one line about it and now it's an I TOLD YOU SO moment for them

This is fucking dumb. The reason Japan has both the best men's wrestling and the best women's wrestling is because each have their separate promotions. That way you don't have two halves of a roster having to share limited ringtime.

>making their product accessible for their existing, Anglophonic audience is the same as marketing internationally
>running one show is marketing internationally
Grow a brain.
>They don't seem to be lighting the world on fire attendance wise though.
Blame Takeshita's weird ass push and them not following up on those hour long matches with Endo, but putting fucking Irie over instead and jobbing him out in his next match.
NXT Japan will never take off, it's not feasible. NXT UK killed the UK scene.
It's marketed as a wrestling company, they happen to be actually entertaining and actually embrace the spectacle instead of pretending to be "real" while doing fucking hurricanranas.

>The Janetty of the trio from an extremely niche company.

>Mayu's a lesser star than more than 90(+)% of the New Japan roster purely down to the fact that she's not involved in the front-running brand.
Now imagine...with your brain, that's she's booked. Because she's on the front-running brand she's no longer 'lesser' and in fact better than 90(+)% and everyone would know it because they could see it.

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based, and just in time to mock

>English commentary, international shows, English translation Twitter accounts, sending their champion to defend the belt i the US, sending their popular joshi wrestlers to the US, and a (admittedly horrendous) campaign for gaijin isn't the same as marketing internationally
You're a fucking idiot.

Mayu isn't even the best or most popular worker in Stardom. She's not even top 10 Joshi. Sareee would get over alright in NJPW.

>Having a company book your wrestler without even mentioning your company is marketing
>running a single show that has barely even been advertised is marketing
>Having a twitter account is marketing
None of these ventures increase their market share, they facilitate existing fans. The New York show is an experiment. Stop sperging out.

His absence is really felt when you realize there aren't many guys in New Japan you can just slap on any main event and be a reliable draw, the New Japan main event really is a whole lot thinner without him. But holy shit for everything else I'm really glad he's gone.

Io and Kairi literally took paycuts to go to WWE

New Japan isn't really all that good right now, though.

>>Having a company book your wrestler without even mentioning your company is marketing
And literally when and who was this? Why are you making shit up
>>running a single show that has barely even been advertised is marketing
Their advertising has been shit on their own end like it usually is.
>>Having a twitter account is marketing
Yes, retard why else would they have an OFFICIAL account then?

Man joshi wrestling really fell off a cliff. Even New Japan isn't nearly as popular today as it was in the 90's but even at their lowest points men's wrestling in Japan in general maintained some degree of popularity. Joshi wrestling, however, went from selling out the Dome to literal bingo hall shit in seemingly a blink of an eye.

If New Japan and/or All Japan died within years of each other it probably would've been closer to the same thing that happened to joshi in the 2000s

DDT really has the best approach by having a separate brand in TJPW, but doesn't exclude the men or women from crossing over to each brand and promoting big shows combining the two.

There's even talk that DDT could have a TJPW match as their main event for a sumo hall show this year.

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so they shouldn't be main event stars in their own companies like they have been for over 30 fucking years but second class wrestlers in others
fuck off kenny your virtue signalling and it's fucking stupid

Sending the KO-D Openweight Champion over to defend his belt and calling the trio of joshi wrestlers the TOKYO JOSHI Freedom Fighters sounds like mentioning the company to me.

Lol, that's not gonna happen and it'd trash the main DDT body if it did. It's still *DDT* Ultimate Party.

>And literally when and who was this? Why are you making shit up
Yuka Sakazaki, dingus.
>Their advertising has been shit on their own end like it usually is.
>Like it always is
They don't have any advertising outside of Japan because they don't market there, retard
>Yes, retard why else would they have an OFFICIAL account then?
To facilitate their existing audience. They don't have a French one though, or and Italian one but they would if they were marketing internationally ya simp. They don't market with the account, they just offer translations. They don't have anything to market outside of Japan anyway. They don't even ship outside of Japan. Pls stop screeching like a retard, you don't even understand the argument you're trying (and failing) to make.
Why the fuck do people argue about subjects they have absolutely no understanding of? Like seriously shut the fuck up.

It's not like they were running the Dome all the time though. That was a one-off thing that combined all the joshi promotions and even had some men matches featured.

The more significant thing was that joshi stopped running the mid-size venues i.e. places had seating for 5-10,000. To where the biggest venue they can run, but rarely sellout, is korakuen

All Japan pretty much did.

>Chikara
that's not marketing, that's a talent share.

It's a shame they're not obliged to book her and have no incentive to do so because the joshi scene is a niche of a niche.
Your opinion of her ability doesn't change that.

>IT'S 2019 NOW

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Why didn't he mention that when he was still with NJPW?

What the fuck is this niggas problem? I thought he would have understood from being in Japan for so long that having mens and womens wrestling in separate promotions was the way it works best. Fuck this gay earth and fuck Kenny Omega.

LMAO all this dude ever talks about is women wrestling yet people think he's gay.

by this logic Dolph Ziggler is a bigger star then any japanese wrestler
being trapped in another company's undercard won't make any joshi

Im glad he is gone. He actually had a voice in NJPW and was trying to change it radicaly.
He should focus in his shit promotion and stop talking about the company he left.

>by this logic Dolph Ziggler is a bigger star then any japanese wrestler
In a sense, yes.

>Yuka Sakazaki, dingus.
>Brandi at the AEW Press Conference: "An up and comer...from Tokyo Joshi Pro-wrestling..." along with every single interview Kenny mentions her in
I should stop right here.
>T-they don't have one for every single market so they're n-not marketing internationally
Stop already. 2, actually. Are Stardom not "marketing internationally" when they did/are doing the exactly same fucking thing with a headstart over DDT?
>They don't market with the account, they just offer translations
That's to help get people into the product with an understanding of what's going on, AKA, marketing. They didn't dump a bunch of matches of Sakazaki after the AEW announcement for no reason.
>They don't have anything to market outside of Japan anyway.
So not their streaming service, overseas appearances, angles or international sale of merch thru PWTs and whatnot that started in sync with their new streaming service?
>Why the fuck do people argue about subjects they have absolutely no understanding of?
At least there's some notable selfwareness from you. that's only half the battle, though.
>Like seriously shut the fuck up.
Calm down.

>Dolph Ziggler is a bigger star then any japanese wrestler
Unironically yes

>but they're obliged to book men shitters
yeah i'm sure yujiro could outdraw mayu on the indies

What the hell kind of argument is that? He's a ditch digger, a pin eater. His job isn't to draw, it's to lose.

>TJPW wasn't mentioned
twitter.com/GIFSkull/status/1093702687097380864

Kenny has gone from wrestling for the fans to trying to divide them. He's a piece of shit.

>What the hell kind of argument is that?
some women can draw more than some men

Sure, but she obviously doesn't seeing how meager the gates for the shows are. In any case, you're saying they should out of an obligation to her. Why? What would she actually add? I can make an argument for Yujiros place on the card over hers simply because he's a lower card body made to job to just about everyone but the young lions. Her? Fuck if I know.

if one wrestler can make more money than another you'd be obliged to book them

yellow fever

It's completely unproven she can though. Prove she can draw enough to change how their company has operated for decades. I've already said they're not drawing shit by themselves, so what is the motive for New Japan here? To make marks on Twitter happy?

Why does this simp constantly want to surround himself with joshis? For what reason does he want cute asian girls to be on the road with him? What's his end game?

How so? He's trying to get a partnership with DDT/TJP. Plus they already have AAA, and Strong Hearts

He's a DDT boy and DDT works with women. He always have had that mentality.

He peaked as the cleaner.

>ASP is one puro autist.

current ddt is trash so that does not bode well

Really? I thought their last Ryogoku show did well and they outdrew All Japan at Korakuen recently, unless there is a downward trend I'm not aware of?

>It is 2019 now.
Fucking Canadians

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Yeah because those fujo fans are there to waste their time watching females instead of hot sweaty men. Or does he think bringing in men would attract the creepy wota old men who already infest the joshi promotions and most definitely won't waste their time going to NJPW to watch men fighting.
Fucking dumbass. Leave that for DDT not a promotion like NJPW.

To me Sendai Girls is the closer thing to NJPW philosophy when it comes to wrestling. But given the story of AWJP i feel they will never consider females un the promotion but as a separate branch.

It should've been obvious to everyone when he was open mouth kissing other dudes in the ring.

Didnt the Io farewell show barely sell out Korakuen? Stardom is drawing like 900 to Korakuen now and TJP also only sold 1200 on fucking 1.4 when they were running 100m from the tokyo dome.

Womens wrestling isnt a draw in Japan anymore. NJPW has a pretty sizeable female audience, I think its something like 35% of their crowd. And thats with no females at all, just a few fujobait boytoys and grubby white guys.

Can't wait for AEW to flop and this guy having to beg wwe or njpw for a job at a quarter of the pay he could have gotten

Why does this simp constantly want to surround himself with Ibushi Kota? For what reason does he want Ibushi Kota to be on the road with him? What's his end game?

...

Well female wrestling fans dont give a shit about womens wrestling

Because if you are hetero woman, why would you watch sweaty women fake fight in the ring, when you can watch sweaty men fake fight in the ring?

Io's farewell drew 1500+ which basically is a sellout. Tokyo Joshi drew the exact same number in Korakuen last year on 5/3 while New Japan was in Fukuoka as they did on that 1/4.

>uber weeb like he was born there
>abandoned the company that made him and left the country he loves for $$$
>gay
>advocate for womemes wrestling and thinks trannies ass bumping in your face is fine
>manlet shorter than Finn Balor
>takes twitter too seriously
>unironically likes the young bucks
>huge ego despite being a WHO because Meltz gave him 7 stars and said he got a huge WWE offer with no proof
>considers himself the best wrestler in the world because reddit said so
This is the type of wrestler you pick when you take mandrama too seriously, don't fall for the trap just watch Mexican wrestling or some shit.

I think the worst thing about Kenny is that I do/did legitimately enjoy his matches, the guy is an ultra talented wrestler. Thing is out of the ring he is one of the most annoying personalities I can think of. He comes off like an ultra carny/victim in all of his interviews.

I didn't say they were obliged, brainlet.
I said it was in their interest.
It's not in NJPW's interest to book chicks that you have to compare to their absolute pin-fodder shitters to position as draws, and have to dedicate an entire division to them, in the process.

But they mostly don't. This is observable.