Fallout 4

They gave you the walking tank armor right at the beginning of the game because of fanservice for the e3 demo, so they needed a way to limit new players from just using it continuously from there. Also you get more dopamine when you're delving through enemy outpost #352 and you find a generator with an FC.

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I have 500 hours in this game and never even got to the Institute

Cait best girl

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>Looking for my family member
>Go play a series of fetch quests that point me to the hidden bunker he's in
>Family member is all grey haired with a full beard now, also a super scientist claiming he'll save the wasteland
>Dies less than an hour after reuniting with him
Just described fallout 3 and 4

The base building feels like wasted potential.
It feels like more could have been done with it, like special quest, characters, etc tied to what you do with your bases and how you treat them.
I feet like what you do with the Minutemen base and that vault DLC where going in the right direction.

both Cait and Curie were wet rags with no personality, only propped up by their le exotic accents

all they had to do was make the armor you get there fall apart or break permanently.
Alternatively, make a npc who's dying wear the armor and have him scuttle it in a last ditch effort to kill a deathclaw thats face fucking him.

You are a homosexual

How exactly does not having a fusion core hinder the player?
I used power armor just fine without one.

holy shit you're right! hahaahahahah

>virtually no enemy AI improvements
Enemy AI is profoundly retarded in Fallout 4.
At least in 3 and New Vegas, enemies would reasonably try to navigate around the environment to find source of gunshots and noise, and don't forget about your existence in a minute.
Enemies in Fallout 4 struggle at borderline everything.

So does anyone ever bring up the elephant in the room whenever Cait is brought up or does nobody really know or care?

Just play Sim Settlements even though they went full autism a while ago

I barely know anything about Cait what are you talking about?

>they went full autism a while ago
What happened?

Ignore that retard

Bethesda should be commended for setting their sights lower. Time and again they've demonstrated an actual RPG is beyond their meagre capabilities, but in the light-FPS-open-world-exploration genre they actually have a shot of making a halfway playable video game.

I just pump mods into this game until it goes from being an passable game to a batshit crazy looter shooter and settlement builder, shit's fun.

Imagine writing a main quest that is so fucking garbage that someone makes a mod that completely disables it
nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/33088
only side effect is no institute interaction and you can't befriend Valentine and Preston.
Not even Fallout 3 had a mod like this to my knowledge.

Then they would have to rebalance the rest of the game with it, since the BoS just gives you an even better set after 2 quests and they sprinkle other sets throughout the wasteland.
Not having an FC means you can't run at normal speed or use VATS. Are you misremembering or something?

Because what it gets right adds nothing to what makes Fallout good. While what it gets wrong completely leave it in shambles.

>more responsive leveling, large freeroam, lots of missions, customization
lol
>Better gun play
Yes but it's worse than modded NV.
Just install some gun/animation mods and a difficulty rebalance mod to New Vegas and it turns into the perfect game. FO4's main problems are impossible fix with mods. It's still enjoyable though, I like it more than 3

I've never noticed a big enough delay to bother me, but you're definitely right about the power. Vanilla, there's also a balancing problem in how higher-power weapons compare to one-another.
Personally I don't really consider the power issue "gunplay" though - to me it's more about how the weapons feel to use, and how easy/natural it is to wage combat with them. As far as that goes, FO4 is objectively superior to 3/NV - even third person view is extremely usable in 4, whereas it was awkward at best previously.
Addressing the combat shotgun specifically, I don't think it's any worse at higher upgrade kits. Lower it can be pretty shitty though, I agree. I attribute this more to the spread personally.

It's just too complex and involved for a Fallout mod for my liking, the original concept was to have the bases work without you having to build and manage all the details and now it's basically the opposite. Also bloats savegames like hell. Still a high quality mod though.

She's a rape victim, or at least, she was. It's complicated so let me tell you what happened.
There's deleted dialog within the game files where Cait tells thew player that when she reject sex from someone she thought was her only friend he got a group of raiders to gang rape her.
It's voiced so it's clear that the writers wanted her to be a rape victim but for some reason that line got cut late into her development.
Bethesda has always seemed to want to tell a rape story but has always been afraid to actually go through with it.

>lying on the internet

>Are you misremembering or something?
Maybe.
I hardly used power armor but every time i did i had no problems even when the FC power ran out. Maybe it was just some bug.

>deleted dialogue
cool bro, who cares. Also rape is such a fucking lazy way to write women in fiction
They automatically cycle from your inventory, maybe you just had some without knowing it.

the game's story is actually a shitty rip off of the Matrix trilogy

fuck bugthesda fallout
lore breaking garbage

It's like Emil Pastaspaghetti read the cliffnotes of Blade Runner the night before the script was due

Why the fuck has Todd been adding heavily scripted cinematic openings for his games that just make every NG playthrough a drag
Fallout 3, Skyrim, 4.
At least with Skyrim you can just leave it in the background while you do other shit for 5 minutes.
3 and 4 are atrocious

>the original concept was to have the bases work without you having to build and manage all the details
That's what i wanted, a base building system where even though you're the one who does work around it the NPCs can also do work on it while you're gone.

Shit gets pretty nuts with SS2 yeah. I actually kinda dig the storylines they've put together for it, but the amount of scripting work it has to plow through has always been too much my rig. I just wanted fire-and-forget settlementing.

They've told rape stories, there's fucking 2 of them in Skyrim, Serana was raped by the Elder Scrolls equivalent of Satan and Sapphire was a sex slave to a bunch of bandits for awhile.

Well deleted or not it does make me wonder if it should still be considered canon or not.
Also seeing as how you commented on the rape i safely assume that you too have at least some care for the subject.

>only one mission has any skill checks
>and its a fucking meme mission that is so fucking stupid and goofy and awards a fucking stupid and goofy weapon

Fuck this game.

The guns were significantly worse than NV, barely any good quests, settlements felt tacked on, roleplaying elements were almost non-existent, and the leveling system was shit. Fallout 4 was fucking garbage and I hate you retarded apologists for Bethesda's increasingly shitty games.
If you want urban warfare and prepper shit go play Stalker instead.

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And the only incentive for the checks is avoiding going through two loading screens to talk to or kill the human NPCs

>Well deleted or not it does make me wonder if it should still be considered canon or not.
Do you not know what deleted means you ignorant cuckold? Of course it's not canon.

Yeah, i know. Those are even examples that come to mind when i said that they want to tell a rape story but are too afraid to do it. Even when they bring it up they just tippie toe around the subject.
Serena for example is a rape victim but that story goes nowhere outside of an implication.

stuff like this is a good direction but Valentine is one of the only good bits lol.

I'd just delete the main quest up until you meet valentine.
The straight out of the fridge start is good just on its own.

Even if it's deleted it could still very well be the writer's intent for the character and they would want to be apart of said character.
Unless we get official confirmation i feel like i should at least respect the initial intentions of the writer and what they wanted for the character.
It could be deleted because they didn't want it to be apart of the character themselves or it could be because someone else meddled with the story they wanted to tell and for that reason, because we don't know exactly why it was cut, i feel like it's at least something to think about as a possibility.
Also, if you wanna reply to me don't be afraid to do it directly.

Well at least Todd himself admitted that the new dialog option system was a mistake.

You can combine fast reunion and make it overwrite the no main quest mod.
You can still have valentine that way.

www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14253/
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/34476/
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/132/?
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/828/?
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3793/?
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3258/?
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/225/?
i will now play your game

Fraud Coward

The mod Start Me Up allows you to completely customize the beginning of the game, adjusting all game dialogue to not make you a father looking for muh Shawn, while still allowing you to approach the main quest content as a "curious outsider." It's my favorite mod for Fallout 4 period

Still better than New Vegas because it isn't associated with trannies.

rent free

>new dialog option system was a mistake.
It wasn't.
Alpha Protocol has a similar vague 4 choice dialogue option system with a fully voiced protagonist and that game worked.
Fallout 4 dialogue system is a massive fucking failure because the DIALOGUE part was all completely fucking awful except a few sarcastic zingers

How much of this is porn?

I love watching reddit troons seethe over the fact that the legion and enclave have unironic supporters

none, if i wanted porn mods i'd be playing skyrim

It's fine. But i think far harbour is amazing. If only you had whole game like that. Set on crusty fishing island. Covered in fog. More focused and refined story. Three factions were more then enough.
All you need in make backround of raiders sensible. Remove super mutant. Replace them fog/radiation monsters.

Kill yourself.

This isn't Alpha Protocol, this is Fallout, a game franchise with multiple dialog options that can change depending on your states, progression, etc.

Probably all of it.

theres a couple of mods that add the Far Harbor aesthetic to the base game.
I agree the FH and NW themes were much enhanced compared to the vanilla

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It still had atrocious writing, but it was admittedly better than the basegame

Now that Fallout is dead to me does anyone know of any other apocalypse RPG with character customization and branching paths? Maybe even with romance options?

>t. roons

They just can't help themselves whit writing. They saw how people were talking about new vegas. They tought fun=light hearted and comedic. Now lot of 4 is just joke. Instead treating subject seriously. Like new Vegas did. No matter how silly things were. It treats itself seriously. Not once game wink at you when you shoot some ghouls to space.

why do you want a post apoc rpg with romance? What is the crossover appeal there?

Fuck off back to your discord

>they add settlement building to the game
>only in certain spots
>meanwhile Conan let you build anywhere
kek it was already out dated on release,

>better gun play
there is nothing in fallout 4 that feels as satisfying to use as the anti material rifle in new vegas. the gun play is not better

The LAER too. That thing is a fuckin beast

Some people really dig fucking on piles of trash. Don't shame.

yeah what they mean is gun play (with mods)

I just like the idea of helping repopulate a world that has been fucked beyond repair.

Conan?

Conan Exiles

at least some progress have been made

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That game released two years after Fallout 4 though.