Falling from grace The Sims

Negatives:
Memories gone - replaced by taking a picture to inflict biopolar story telling

Moods gone - Replaced by the bipolar disorder system seen in TS4, your sim no longer has any form of gradual or overall mood

Wants gone - Nothing your sim wants to accomplish that has impact on their life or makes them happier, they just want to hear the radio so you can buy them an empty perk later

Fears gone - tragedies and fears no longer exist, your sim will be sad for 2-3 predetermined days and forget about it forever thanks to lack of memories

Open world gone - Originating from TS3 you are now confined like good old times

Meaningful aspirations gone - Replaced by a system that should arguably be better but the easy difficulty makes it too non disruptive and its not rewarding enough with no impact on Sim life or mood

Create a style gone - originated in TS3, great feature. Can live without it but helped flesh every sim in style more to be unique.

Intricate relationships from TS2 gone - Your relationship is now two bars, "friends" and "romantic". You no longer have meaningful relationship states that effect how relationships progress or decay or unique interactions. If you become GF/BF etc it just a tag to say "don't cheat on me", if you marry it just means the same thing but now you can divorce too.

Large expansions - content heavy expansions gone replaced by gimped versions of each theme from the past. We got "Get Together" which is basically a gimped zoomer edition of Nightlife. Only expansion that has some arguably impressive feat is Pets.

Personality Points+Zodiac - TS2 era feature that gave your sims some personalized animations as well as behaviour patterns and affected their compatibility with others. Extended to their wants/fears and dictated what would upset their mood too.

Positives:
Nice build mode - Best in the series
Nice Create a sim - Best in the series (looks only and function only, best with CC to make the game not ugly TS4 style)

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Yeah, Sims 3 first expansion was massive, meanwhile Sims 4 is just minor things that you play a couple of hours.

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I like these videos because they really help highlight what festering horseshit Sims 4’s relationship AI actually is.

Is VW Sword Soul better than pure VW?

1000% they do. TS4 relationship is so absurdly bare bones. I know TS3 technically wasn't as in depth as TS2 but lord does TS4 take the piss.
All the characters are inhumane af and all their "moods" are super basic reflections of obvious situations with no riot control on conflicting emotions. They have the systems there to manage it somewhat but its balanced like shit.
Remember how in TS2 your Sim could pretty much hit depression with too may bad memories and sanity etc and you'd have to try and keep them uplifted for a period to so that would be put behind them

God. Even the logo for the 4th game is utterly soulless.

What's missing from 2 in 3?

It seems like The Sims fanbase is very underserved. Why hasn't another company stepped in? These games make tons of money.

I only "play" Sims 4 to jack off.

Quite a bit, Zodiac personality points doesn't exist for example, just the zodiac meaning your automatically fit into predeterimed versions of each preset zodiac unlike TS2. You're left with traits from TS3 which is a big + on TS2 and kind of fill in but yet again there's no extremes and it doesn't entirely account for some of the features e.g Lazy is just one extreme not a depth like in TS2.
Memories also play into the Sims relationships and relationship types more in TS2, relationship balance and build up also functions more smoothly and cleverly but this is an opinion, TS3 imo made relationships way easier than TS2 aside from a few broken interactions.
TS3 also to my knowledge lacks the hidden gossip tags etc for sim conversations and relationships but I'm not 100% certain.

This, but with Sims 3. If I'm going to go out of my way to play a porn game it's gotta have worthwhile gameplay.

>Memories gone
They weren't properly done in TS3 either. It created most of the bugs and corrupt saves. But yeah, I wish they worked on this.

>Moods gone
Expect the Moods in TS4 are incremental, like for instance your sim can go from Fine, to Happy, to Playful, to Very Playful, to Hysterical and can die from laughter if they stay there too long.

>Wants gone
The Whims system is nearly identical. Don't be facetious.

>Fears gone
Yeah I'm with you on that one. There needs to be more punishment and difficulty in the game.

>Open world gone
It's still bigger than TS1 or 2, see pic. But I would like bigger playable areas with no loading too.

>Meaningful aspirations gone
Like you said the system had potential, but again, the game makes it too easy. Mods could possibly fix this though.

>Create a style gone
Yeah I'd be okay with just color wheels for everything. Most of TS3's textures were awful and hyper-compressed anyway.

>Intricate relationships from TS2 gone
Not really true. You can level up your marriage if one of your Sims has the soulmates trait and there's various levels in romance like Romantic Interest, Lovers, BF/GF, Fiance, Spouse, Soulmates, etc. You can also have special relationships with family like a daughter that's super friendly with her father will be Daddy's Girl, and the similar for boys with their mothers.

>Large expansions
Yeah, this is a total shit show.

>Personality Points+Zodiac
Not a fan of the Zodiac signs. But Traits and the newer Likes and Dislike system do alot more than you'd think.

>best with CC to make the game not ugly TS4 style
TS4's style is one of the best thing it has going for it. Disgusting Second Life imitating alpha hair and non-matching overly detailed clothes are hideous. The game's world has a style. YOu might not like it, but it's better than clashing aesthetics.

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Is it worth going all the way back to 2?

Animal Crossing did the same thing. They offered up the best editing tools but completely gutted the interactions and character development.

Positives:
good sex mods

>It's still bigger than TS1 or 2, see pic.
>five lots
>implying

Post how big playable home areas were in TS1 and 2.

Five lots, you numpty.

Show me.

I wish, they're barebones animation viewers.

This isn't confirming a source. You are familiar with the games or you aren't.

>They weren't properly done in TS3 either
They still had some presence but yeah not gonna fight you

>Expect the Moods in TS4 are incremental
Sill bipolar, the incremental idea isn't bad but with the way its set up it doesn't work and still can't compare to a playful/serious sim for example in TS2. You can't really be playful and depressed in 4 as a personality and state.

>The Whims system is nearly identical. Don't be facetious.
Its not, its completely different. TS4 Whims do not do anything, your sims happiness does not boost. You might get an emotional moodlet but nothing that helps your long standing sims health which in TS2 was a constant that could go up and down. The effectiveness isn't present in TS4 because emotions are cycled out hazardously. Mood is continuous in TS2 and supported by memories system and personality. The traits in TS4 for instance barely impact whims and neither does the aspirations. Whims can be upgraded but lets not pretend it plays the same role, there's a reason its not updated anymore. I suppose what I'm saying is Whims tie into nothing practically unlike TS2 Wants.

>Like you said the system had potential
Yeah sadly, its a good idea and update but too little "grandness" to it. They still have room to make it better, TS2 sadly had very narrow ones but they were good.

>Most of TS3's textures were awful and hyper-compressed anyway
Ts3 is so ugly lol!

>>Intricate relationships/ will be Daddy's Girl, and the similar for boys with their mothers
Agree but the issue is they are surface level and still seldom impact relationship progression. BFF is one of the best relationship states in TS4 for that reason, TS2 nearly always has an impact.

> But Traits and the newer Likes and Dislike system do alot more than you'd think.
I've used them and I haven't really noticed much, but aside from that I'm also certain not as far as TS2.

>The game's world has a style
The style itself literally made it difficult to make black people

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For the record TS2 had the biggest hoods, TS3 you could literally break the map, possible in TS2 but let constant.
I had so many game crashes from placing lots in TS3.

That's not in-game. That's the map.
The pic I posted is in-game, playable area.

a game series that never really reached it's full potential.

>Only expansion that has some arguably impressive feat is Pets
What did it do? I remember it catching plenty of flak for selling small animals separately

might as well play the first one. It's objectionably better. Or you could just watch a lp and see most of it, personally I suggest watching Marty plays the sims. He goes through most of the content in the game.
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Pack was shit (as is usually with pets imo)
But it had the best pet creation and I cant comment for 3 for the pets were miles better than 2's save for a few things

ANGRY POOP

God just give me a modern TS3 how fucking hard can it be? EA is going to get blown the fuck out with their thumb up their ass if they keep dicking around like this.

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Are you a woman?
I've never met a man who played The Sims enough to give that many shits.

I hate that EA of all people have the stranglehold on the genre that they can fuck around as much as they want because no one else can't even come close to the juggernaut that is Sims.

No I'm a femboy which means I've privileged around these parts. Watch your manners or else you want get your internet fantasies.

Will Paralives finally redeem the genre?

Not OP, but I just want a porn game to be the best it can be.

No, it's first and foremost a Patreon siphon and will always be that. I expect it to never get out of early access and be abandoned once it has collected enough money.

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>Unity engine
It’s shit

This is the redflag of the centaury desu. Why are they making a life simulation in unity, we know its never gonna be finished or good just because of that.

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Yeah its frustrating and seems like no one wants to commit to even building a solid foundation etc or even getting their money's worth. Paralives devs last I heard said they didn;t want to make too much DLC but like its probably because the game is going to be DOA because its a broken mess

> we got pronouns before proper pet rabbits
don't really care about the pronouns but
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TS4 triggers my gears, when you want to play as hobo and struggle with shitty life, the game won't let you becasue its not designed in that way. Everything is influenced with social media and false scope of world without the bad.

>Turn on the game
>Just make some two sims fuck
>I've already did all of my fantasies in game
>Don't even get aroused anymore, just bored
>Try to play it normally
>Haven't enjoyed a game pack since Jungle Adventures
>Close the game

I don't understand why I just don't uninstall the game forever. Hoping for a good adventure pack I guess

>mfw I realize there are people working at Maxis who have done nothing but Sims stuff for 20+ years
It's a special kind of hell.

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I was really mad they were doing pronouns desu, like whats the point? Its not like they're going to have all the languages done at once. Its such a retard centric thing to focus on in a game like the sims.

Also I'm with you user, I wanted pet rabbits for ages, cottage living pissed me off

probably the point is that TS4 lifespan is closer to end than we think, and updates like that are easy to implement and create buzz, meanwhile all the engineers and devs went for more important stuff like
>TS4.5

>I've already did all of my fantasies in game
I doubt that.

people who make sims now aren't the same people who worked on it 20 years ago

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Pure virgins gone whores, making a club that impregnates teenagers, gangbang the wife of my character in a shady club, etc etc

Can't really come up with more things

Ahh probably true. Very annoying, TS4 still has way too many bugs but judging by the poor standards with wedding stories could very well be the case.

Ahh well. I'm at the point I don't think I'll be buying the next game, if TS4 is left broken then I don't really have incentive to keep paying for new games anymore. I'll just stay on 2/4, they've gotten away with the leave the game broken shenanigans for years and if pronouns are more important than bugs/performance I'm out

Here's hoping we have some actual good news someday though

Negatives:
Soul gone

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This is why I just stick with Sims 3. There won't be a better one.

old=GOOD

I'll never get over TS1 aesthetic. Sims 2 has my fave gameplay but the presentation of TS1 is just the best honestly

The only people that still play Sims 4 are women and/or trannies who love futa and femboys.
Sims 5 will be even worse knowing that those people will still pay for everything that they'll add back in as DLC.

I love the Sims 4 solely for the reason that it keeps my GF happy and out of my way for hours and hours. I can relax, read a book, and not be bombarded with her stupid ideas all the goddamn time. No, I don't want go for a walk, we can go for a walk when the dogs needs to go out. No, I just want to stare at the ceiling for a while and maybe take a nap. God bless casual games, they are like crack to women.

Should I download sims 3?

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Why not

>games needed important updates the community wants
>spends months on just a gender pronouns update
have they lost their minds?

This is why Sims became so hollow. Because girls buy it anyway

Someone mentioned it the other day, get it from fitgirl, it has all the expansions and fixes too

Gf was so pissed when 4 came out and seethed for days how barren it was. She played 3 up until a month or back and pirated some complete edition of ts4.

The Sims is the ultimate proof that Women and the LGBT are bad for gaming.
You can't prove me wrong

you can't even make sims go mad anymore, they just loop into doing shit with their phone.
sims 4 is not a game.

Which Sims should I pirate for better coom mods?

you WILL play the tranny game
you WILL romance the tranny sim
you WILL wear the feminine clothes

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I WILL pimp out femboys and make bank
I WILL imprison a lesbian to forcefully paint for me and make bank
and they WILL be killed after I get bored