DO YOU SPEAK JAPANESE?

Nihao, niggerundayo! Praystationu hab no gaemu!

moshi moshi desu

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YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU SAY NOTHING, YOU ARE STRONG?

no

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This is now a MALON THREAD

how is japanese harder than chinese

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Why would anyone speak japanese when chinese gives you more use out of learning it?

OI KISAMA

Itadakimasu!

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DO YOU SUCK DICKS

Why would I want to communicate with subhumans?

HERRO PREASE CHING CHONG PING PONG

>spurdo's tongue not being dark red

what use do you get from chinese? what choices do you have for tourism or expatriating? a country run by degenerate communist gangsters, or another country that is free but will be attacked by the country run by degenerate communist gangsters within the next decade?

Give me a reason to even wanting to interact with a chink in their language other than telling them their family will be killed?

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>learning chinese
someone post the copypasta

Anyone remember that old ass post from Yea Forums or Yea Forums where some weeb claims he knows japanese and starts listing jap words and the translations down but they're all wrong or just made up words?
Only thing I can remember was he mentioned something like dosdent as a japanese word.

Yeah desu!

Enough to get around easy in Japan. I miss it.

Because it's Chinese with additional different alphabets that need to be used to make sense of it. Japan should have done what Korea did and just make a new script and abandon chinese officially instead of making a new script to wrap around it.

Murricans had the chance to ban all godforsaken Kanji and they fucked it up

Teach me. I can do it.

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I've gotten plenty of mileage out of learning Japanese and enjoy vacationing there. I have zero interest in visiting China and have never been on a situation where I wish I knew Chinese.

>no no japan can do no wrong, it's america's fault!
KYS weeb.

Hungarian is the hardest language in the world.

Not really but my gf is teaching it to me. Learned all of hiragana in a week but that’s easy as fuck if your IQ isn’t room temperature. I don’t know any actual words or how to communicate.

it's not, they're retarded
the kana will take you like a week to learn, the additional hanzi needed for literacy in chinese vs the amount needed to japanese will take a lot fucking longer than that, and japanese has a much easier phonology
also depending on where you live you'll probably want to learn zhuyin/bopomofo too which makes this post even more retarded

This, most people don't realize Japanese is Chinese + Japanese. Chinese is just Chinese - most characters have just one pronunciation. Plus the grammar structure is almost identical to English.

>tfw conversant in Japanese
I've never felt so smug.

NIHONGO SHABERU?

COPE

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for me its Esperanto

>This, most people don't realize Japanese is Chinese + Japanese.
based retard
>Chinese is just Chinese - most characters have just one pronunciation.
A pronunciation way more difficult to be able to distinguish, especially when so many speakers tend to merge a bunch of consonants before you even get to tones
>Plus the grammar structure is almost identical to English.
word order is a pretty insignificant part of grammar, and outside of just being SVO chinese diverges a lot from english word order anyway. It even has pretty common topic-comment sentences that are pretty close to japanese

Looks like someone triggered a weeb.

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oh xiao xue xin xou xuo xin xau xei xiai xoua xen

ORE WA OCHINCHIN GA DAISUKI NANDAYO

>Japan should have done what Korea did and just make a new script and abandon chinese officially instead of making a new script to wrap around it.
I was watching a video on youtube about a guy who claims to be a language expert and he explained why what korea did by dropping kanji seems cool but is actually retarded in the long run and is gonna cause problems for them especially in younger generations who will never have learned the kanji they abandoned. I'm too much of a retard to explain it good though

Both require you to memorize 4k runes, but in Chinese they have one reading each and the grammar is caveman tier.

I don't know what to tell you. The data in the OP compiled by a government institute in the USA which compiled this data themselves to show difficulty in learning languages as an English speaker. The data shows, objectively, that people have a harder time learning Japanese than Chinese or Korean. You not agreeing with it isn't going to change the data.

>especially when so many speakers tend to merge a bunch of consonants before you even get to tones
The fuck are you talking about? Every language has slang and dropped/substituted sounds, even Japanese. This is simply comparing Standard Mandarin and Standard Japanese.
Besides, tones are pretty much the first thing you learn in Chinese. Yes, they're hard, but only narcissistic retards had trouble with correcting themselves.
>It even has pretty common topic-comment sentences that are pretty close to japanese
Compared to Japanese, where every sentence is pretty close to Japanese?

I keep dancing with the idea of learning japanese especially so I can read untranslated manga but I'm lazy. I learned a few hiragana one time but then stopped. one day I'll start. or maybe not. oh well

And why would them abandoning hanzi be a problem for them if they aren't even using it officially and only do so unofficially in some cases?

idk you gotta watch the video

It's pretty clear cut; Chinese characters are used all over Asia and in Korea's own history, so dropping them has the consequence of people not being able to read them and missing out.

You didn't post it.

so nu-koreans/korean zoomers are illiterate in their own language when it comes to documents or media from before a certain date?

How does this change if your native tongue is an agglutinative asiatic language?

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lol it was a while ago I don't remember I'll try to find it and if I do I'll post it here

What a fucking retard.

I know the first few hiragana and a bunch of random phrases/vocabulary from anime and thats it

Yes, but of course some people will study it in university, kind of like how people study Latin and Egyptian or something

They've been using hangul as a fully adopted script for over 100 years, so they won't have any issues with contemporary usage. But sure, a lot of people might have issues reading older texts from things like the 18th century or what not, because at that point they just used Chinese.

So, sort of like cursive for English speakers?

who cares about old shit boomer

>for over 100 years,
oh I didn't know that. I thought it was way more recent. in that case they should be fine

You could say that, although cursive would be way easier to learn, and not everything from the past is written in cursive.

>it's real and up to date
Damn. It's a lot lower than most other literal who languages too. Thought the abundance of weebs would make it a lot higher.

H-hai san
AOI KAZE GA IMA...

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Much like Japanese games, all that matters has already been transcripted to Hangul.

Nobody cares about what the philosopher Ching Boon Wok said in the 16th century, and if they do someone will transalte him to contemporary Korean.

Koreans still get taught kanji in school, any educated person will be able to read them

Seems biased.
Hangul is the most modern alphabet in the world. It's like Latin Alphabet v2.0
Koreans were very smart to adopt it, no matter what one retarded western weeb may think. Just because he may be a self proclaimed language expert doesn't mean shit

it says thats the number of L2 speakers so people who are not natives but speak it well enough. it doesnt show how many L3,4, or 5 speakers they are although obviously they don't know as much as L2 or natives. Plus I doubt the number of 3-5s are that much larger

tones alone make chinese/mandarin 10x harder than japanese

would it be like me, a native english speaker, not being able to read shakespearean english as if they are completely foreign letters?

I'm learning Chinese and Japanese at the same time and there's nothing you can do about it

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It would be as if old English was written in a different alphabet.

So it's not like you cannot understand it (spoken you can) but you cannot read it.

Yes, that's mostly correct.
I can tell you that that's generally considered a bad idea considering how similar Japanese and Chinese characters are. You're gonna confuse yourself.

shi shi shi shi shi shi shi shishi shi shishi shi shi

I already know chinese
ching chong ping pong wiiu wiiu bing bong

Mandarin only has four tones. Even Cantonese, the language of Hong Kong, has six and apparently it's still easier for English speakers to learn over Japanese.

japanesebros...

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>it doesnt show how many L3,4, or 5 speakers

lol l3 l4 etc just mean that's ur 3rd 4th etc language you speak.
you're either fluent or you're not.

>mfw I read that Brazil has the largest japanese population of any place that isn't japan itself
weird