This was better than Mario Odyssey

So it goes:
2D Sonic > 3D Sonic = 2D Mario > 3D Mario

Because it was the greatest gaming rivalry. Better than Link vs Ganon, better than Cloud vs Sephiroth, better than Master Chief vs Sony, better than Atari vs whoever. Nothing topped this in gaming, nothing.

Correct

Every sonic fan ITT is pic related talking to every mario fan

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As a Sonicfag/Segafag since birth, I like to think it's all in good fun. It's impossible to argue that Sonic is objectively the better franchise.

No, but it's the best sonic game

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It's certainly has lower lows, but you'd be dishonest if you were pretending that mario hasn't entirely spent his entire franchise in Just OK games. It doesn't even have to be on the grounds of a Mario vs Sonic comparison given how many different things we have to compare it to.

Likewise, you'd be dishonest if you said Sonic hasn't been stagnant for most of the last decade. Mania came out five years ago. Generations six years before that.

>Mania came out five years ago
And?

Odyssey is probably not a bad game, but I got absolutely bored with it two hours in. Mario 64 is the where the 3D platforming peaked, and it hasn't been the same since.
Sonic Mania is fantastic. You don't waste time with bullshit "stories" and pointless animations. It's speed and action.

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And there's been nothing since. We got Forces that same year, which flopped, and we got Team Sonic Racing, which flopped. Whereas I envy the Mariofags, they've gotten a ton of shit since Odyssey. You can't say that Sonic is the healthier franchise there.

>They've gotten a ton of shit since odyssey
>4 rereleases
>They stuck the mobile game tracks into the rerelease of mario kart 8
user, come on.

There was not a Sonic game, not even a rerelease, in 2018 or 2020. 2019 got TSR. 2021 got a Colors port.

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>All those rereleases
>Fucking warioware
>Side titles
You don't get a (You).

>ignoring the 10 unique games
Please stop embarrassing me by embarrassing Sonicfags

He's the one showing up and declaring A MINECRAFT RERELEASE of THE FUCKING WII U TEXTURE PACK of all fucking things qualifies as avoiding stagnation.

Mania Plus came out in 2018

Oh, they've gotten a ton of SHIT, alright.
>every sports and party game comes out completely half baked, but they get a pass while TSR is genuinely criticized for its dearth of content
>Mario Maker 2's post launch support is a desert, dies well before 1 did in the same time frame
>Mario Kart is stuck in gacha hell, 9 is nowhere in sight
>only new platformer since Odyssey is a short incentive to buy a 3D World port
Luigi's Mansion 3 is the only Mario related game since Odyssey to provide a fulfilling, original experience. The only upcoming Mario game we know of that looks promising is made by Ubisoft. What's going on?

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A lot of games are better than Mario Odyssey. Though I don't think it started the uselessly huge amount of collectables trend that Nintendo keeps doing for their games (I'm pretty sure Breath of the Wild did it first), it still continued it.

Forces sold millions.
Racing game did flop though

Sorry, but the truth is set in stone. Sega does what Nintendon't.

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They’re both good. :)

2D Sonic > 3D Mario > Old 3D Sonic > Old 2D Mario > New 3D Sonic > New 2D Mario

I’d give Bowsers fury a pass or at least half a pass but that and mansion 3 have been the only good ones.
Nintendos been shit lately, what fucking happened?

Everyone bought a switch and they embraced all the shitty practices of the modern game industry (Of no real consequence because they already have a massive install base)

kyuuto ratto

I think this guy pretty much hit the nail on the head. Nintendo doesn't have to try anymore and they know it. The Switch outsold the Wii and people pay to play old games and use online features. It's like when a company hits it big with a live service game, they generally stop caring.

>3D Sonic
>Good
Are you a furfag or something? I don't see how anyone could unironically say 3D Sonic has any redeeming qualities.

Look who I was replying to, psycho

was this sonic model ever used ever again? ive only seen it here

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"That was fun!" Cream cheers inbetween her giggles as she runs out the exit for the rollercoaster we were just on.

"Yeah, it was pretty fun." I respond, trying to feign sincerity as I look down at the little rabbit. "Could stand to go a little faster though."

"Nothing is faster than you, mister Sonic!" Cream replies with a bright smile on her face.

I start walking to a nearby bench. Cream follows closely beside me. Sitting myself down with her right next to me, I take in the scenery. A beautiful night sky, without a cloud in the sky, is cast over a life-filled carnival. Autumn Amusement, a traveling funfair that comes and goes like the autumn winds. Reminds me a lot of Carnival Night Zone on Angel Island, only more populated... and less deadly.

We just got off the largest rollercoaster in the park. Amity Circuit, was it? Eh, close enough. Didn't leave much of an impact on me. Wasn't really up to my speed. Rollercoasters don't thrill me as much as they used to.

My eyes wander along the other attractions the park has to offer. You got your classic spinning teacups, rotating pirate ships, games where you shoot water into Eggman's face to win a prize, your typical setup. All of them themed with the familiar warm colors and appropriations of autumn. I think it could use a little more blue, personally. A large stone fountain surrounded by grass sits behind us in the middle of a circle of benches populated with other people talking, snacking, and resting after a long day of excitement.

"I guess mama and miss Amy are just getting on now." Cream remarks.

"It's pretty packed tonight." I add, taking another reminding look at the long line we were just waiting in. Hasn't gotten any shorter since we were in it. Definitely some of the worst twenty two minutes of my life. Cream and I were lucky to be the last two seated on the most recent boarding, with Vanilla and Amy just behind us. They didn't make it on, so they were stuck waiting for the next one.

Vanilla insisted that she'd step out and wait for us at the exit, but me and Amy convinced her to go anyway. Once again, I'm stuck playing the waiting game. I lean my elbow on the back of the bench and feel a bored expression wash over my face.

At least I'm in good company.

Cream looks over to me. "It was very nice of you to invite me and my mom with you on your date, mister Sonic."

I internally shuddered at the thought. Amy was arranging for a fun night out for some time. She wanted just the two of us to be here at this festival. I wasn't having any of that. Still, I feel like after everything that's happened recently I could throw her a bone. So we compromised, and I got a couple more passes for Vanilla and Cream so that it felt less like a date. Tails had other plans, so I couldn't pull him into this. Thankfully, Amy didn't sound too bothered by the notion, but I could tell she wasn't completely satisfied. At least it wasn't her hammer letting me know this time.

I turn my head towards the young rabbit sitting next to me. "It's uhh... It's not really a date." I put on an awkward smile. "We were just looking for somewhere to relax, let loose, and have some fun." All things considered, I'd rather be smashing Eggman's face in, but getting to take it easy with my friends is just as enjoyable sometimes.

... Especially with Cream.

Our eyes meet as we sit beside each other. She's smiling at me, and I'm smiling at her. The glance between us feels like it lasts an eternity, even if it's really only a few seconds...

... My gaze quickly shifts to the crowds walking one way and another... I softly swallow. This isn't the place for that. Her mother is here. Amy is here. We're in the middle of a crowded place. And yet... my mind gets the best of me.

"Hey Cream, how about we go get some ice cream while we wait? My treat!"

Cream gasps. "Oh, I would love that, mister Sonic!"

Thanks for the (You) Creambro

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We both get up off the bench and head for wherever the nearest ice cream concession stand is. Throughout the day, we had to weave through the crowds every now and then, so I took Cream by the hand so that we wouldn't get separated. I could have easily made it to the ice cream stand and be back to her within seconds... but that's not what I had in mind at all.

I tell Cream we're taking a detour to get out of the crowds, when really I just wanted to get to somewhere that's relatively quiet and alone, just me and her. This was risky business. I felt sweat forming on my brow just from the idea of what we're about to go through. The thoughts I'm having bang in my head louder than the microphones the game announcers are using to coax people into playing rigged carnival games.

I eventually end up leading her behind one of the game stalls. Here, we were obscured from the bright and lively lights of the fair and, more importantly, the eyes of the public, shielded by many stalls and stands arranged in a short curve. We can still hear the game going off behind us, and the talking, yelling, and laughter of everyone near us in the park. We could still be spotted, but at least here it was a little out of the way.

"What's going on, mister Sonic?" Cream asks with that same innocent voice of hers.

I turn to her and take both of her hands, smiling down at her. I lower myself a little so that we're met at eye level. Even at her age... she's still pretty attractive. I could get lost in her eyes...

I had to quickly snap back into reality before I became enamored by her trance. I really shouldn't be thinking these kind of things about her. She's so much younger than me... but... ever since that last incident at Toy Kingdom... Man, that was one heck of an experience for both of us. I just couldn't look at her the same after that day. Just being around her makes me feel uneasy. Not in a bad way, but still uneasy.

And I couldn't imagine the trouble I might cause if I started to do... well, anything anywhere near serious with her.

"I thought we could uhh... have a little fun by ourselves. Like last time, remember?" I speak to her in a quieter tone.

It's so hard to even bring this up, even for me. This is wrong on so many levels.

"Ooooh, like last time?" she responds while my thoughts continue to attack me. Her face and tone show curiosity. Not fear. Not disgust. Not panic like she most definitely should.

I have to muster all my fortitude to keep myself from choking on my own words. "Yeah. Like last time." I repeat to her. "You liked what we did last time, right?"

What the heck is wrong with me? I was ready to call off the whole thing... but before I could do so, Cream responded.

"Okay, mister Sonic!" Her voice is hushed just like mine was, and her tone is still as cheerful as before.

Even though this wasn't our first time doing anything risque, it still hasn't sit well with me. Not entirely. My mind is yelling at me, scolding me for my unclean thoughts. But... Cream was okay with it, right? It's not like I'm hurting her, I think to myself, trying to justify what we are about to do.

"Then let's do it!" I perk up, trying to keep it cool. I take her by the hips and toss her into the air like someone would their own child. She starts giggling as I get playful with her, catching her on the way down. I toss her up again, and catch her a second time, letting her down afterwards. Sometimes it's hard to remember just how young she is... but I try my hardest not to think about that. Especially not now.

I slip myself behind her and wrap my arms around her, getting a feel for her soft, warm body. She's still wearing her vermilion colored dress, so of course I can't grab at much, but I can still feel the implications of the yet-to-form curvature of her body. Man... She's gonna grow up to be a heartbreaker for sure.

"You alright with this, Cream? You know this isn't the kind of fun you can have with just anybody, right?" I tell her. I'm giving her every opportunity to turn it down. To change her mind. To keep herself from going through with it. My brain keeps second guessing itself, hoping that she ends up stopping me. But she just ends up doing the opposite.

"I know, mister Sonic! It's okay with you, though!"

Such a sweet girl. She's so honest. So polite. So trusting... She knows I would never hurt her. I could never bring myself to. But she's okay with this... even though we both know it's so very, very wrong. But... I guess that's what makes it so fun for me. As for her...

... My hands reach up to her chest from under her arms. I start to gently feel around at her figure. I back up to the rear of the game stall, leaning on it for support while I'm hunched over to grope at Cream's undeveloped body. Her chest is as flat as a table. It hasn't yet grown in due to being so young, but I can still feel the subtle protrusions of her nipples even through her clothing. I take a few seconds to rub my fingers against them. My eyelids grow heavy as my imagination takes over, picturing to myself what I'm actually toying with. Cream lets out a quiet giggle as one of my hands instinctively attempts to cup one of her breasts despite knowing there isn't much to grab there, if anything.

My seeking hands slowly make their way, one after the other, down her body. Along her waist, to her hips, and eventually, her thighs. I bring one arm back up to keep her secured against my chest while my second hand slowly slides up her leg, hiking the side of her dress up and exposing more of her. My heart starts racing as I can feel the traces of her panties against my finger. I take deeper breaths, having to keep myself calm knowing I'm so dangerously close to Cream's erogenous zone.

"You remember what I told you last time, Cream?" I tell her in a hushed tone. "I'll only go as far as you let me... and we can't tell mama about this, alright?"

My perverted thoughts are getting the better of me as my hand slowly makes its way across her underwear, mere inches away from the gentle crevasse of her lower lips.

"O-Of course, mister Sonic. I didn't forget!" She's stuttering as she starts to get worked up herself from me being so close to her. I can hear it in her breath. She can feel every motion I make on her, and feeling it inching closer and closer to her pleasure center is probably causing her to get riled up. Despite her youth, I was surprised to find out that her body is fully capable of the things you would only expect from an adult. I suppose that's how this whole thing between us started to begin with.

After what felt like an eon of teasing, my index finger finally makes contact with her folds. At least, against the cloth her panties. I shimmy my way between them and start running up and down against her lips. The warmth coming from her slit is indescribable. It's like stepping into a heated sauna in the middle of a snowstorm. I can hear a slight whimper sputter from Cream's mouth. Her legs spread open just a little more, as if inviting me to play. I spend a good minute running between Cream's petals and getting her going.

It didn't last too long, particularly because I didn't want to cause her to have any sort of accident. "Hey, Cream... do you mind if I take these off?" I quietly suggest. I expect to be shot down, but Cream once again goes along with it.

Forces outsold Mania.

"G... Go ahead..." She speaks softly. She's incredibly red in the face, already brimming with her own flavor of hormonal instincts as she anticipates my move. I briefly pull away from her cunny, and slip my thumb down through the elastic grip of her underwear. I give a gentle tug and pull, slipping it down her thigh. I didn't need to pull on the other side, as it followed shortly after. With no effort, Cream's underwear has fallen to her ankles. Her pussy and cute little rump are now exposed to the outside world... or at least they would be if her dress wasn't in the way.

I return to her honeypot and make contact with it again. The second I touch it, she lets out an embarrassingly loud gasp, and her body tenses up. I've only ever touched her here once before. Of course she isn't used to it. Then again, neither am I. My index finger slips into her clitoral hood, getting a feel for that red little button hidden inside. Just gently grazing it causes Cream to slightly convulse. I pause for a second so that I don't overload her... and then I continue pressing down against it. I'm going as slow as I can... for her sake. I don't want to overstep my boundaries. Not for something like this.

My digit returns to its previous motions, sliding up and down that moistened crack, gently nudging at her clit every so often. She leans her head down, watching me toy with her girlhood so lovingly, so casually... I start to get into the moment personally, letting myself coast through the motions until... I consider taking it one small step further. Just like every other time we've done this.

I angle my hand so that the front of my finger is facing her pussy. Keeping at the back and forth motions, I start to make subtle advances towards the opening down there... her vagina. I've never been in there before, and she's very likely never had anything in there before. This would be a first for the both of us.

that waifu maker was a good catch

I didn't want to ruin the moment by asking, so I started to lay down some hints that I'd like to attempt entry. I do so by running the tip of my finger against the entrance, pausing every now and then to prod at the opening. Cream gives no verbal response. She's too busy huffing and moaning. But her body says it all. Her legs spread further, welcoming me into her most sacred chamber.

I slip inside, feeling Cream's vaginal muscles start to cling on to me as I enter. I take it slower as I make my way into her for the first time. She lets out yet another shaky moan, feeling me give Cream her first fingering. I don't go too far at first. I kept my hand motions going, brushing through her folds and now into her cunny. Every minute or so that passes I go in a little deeper. As we go, I start to lift her off the ground, letting her lean on my body for leverage. I don't notice it at the time, but her panties slip off of her ankles and onto the ground beneath us. How could I notice? I was start to get lost in the moment, blocking out everything around me. Right now, giving Cream the orgasm of a lifetime is all that matters to me.

I'm quickly snapped back to reality at the sound of someone nearby. A couple laughing and talking just outside of my peripheral vision. If they turned and came down this corner, we'd be seen for sure, and with the noises Cream has been making, despite her efforts to remain quiet, there'd be no way to hide what we've been doing.

"M-Mister Sonic... someone might see us...!" she stutters quietly between the heavy exhales she's producing.

"They're not going to see us." I reassuringly whisper back to her as I continue at the same pace. "I promise."

np
here's the sauce
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I'm not going to stop now. She knows it, too. She hasn't given any sort of resistance, or any requests. She's just as determined to reach her peak as I am to get her there. My hand keeps slipping in and out of that precious little love tunnel of hers, and I make sure I keep at a brisk pace.

If anything, this just made it more exciting for me. If we got caught doing this, our lives would be over. My reputation would be tarnished, if not irreparably destroyed. My life would be in shambles. Nobody would ever see me the same way again. Tails... Amy... Vanilla... everyone would think I'm a monster.

And Cream... Who knows what she'd be put through because of me? Because of this? Knowing her mother, she'd be grounded for life. She'd probably never be allowed to leave the house again... or worse.

And yet... that's what makes it so exhilarating. The adrenaline rush brought on by such a taboo activity... The risk of being caught doing something so illegal. Someone could turn that corner right now, seeing the two of us in this precarious position, and it'd sting harder than any of Eggman's baddies ever could. It's only made worse by the noise of games, rides, and attractions going off in all directions, and the sounds of people talking reminding me of just how easily we could be found... Obviously I don't want to get caught, but the chance of it actually happening... that's what pushes all my buttons the right way.

I can't think straight. Cream's lust-filled moans as her body leans against my chest while I thrust my finger faster into her pussy, making sure the base of my digit keeps contact with her clit as it rubs against it, up and down, through the motions. She's so incredibly wet... I'm sliding in and out of her effortlessly. I can hear the squelching sounds made by my movements through her cunt. The sounds she's making, everything I'm hearing, causes me to tense up and squeeze her against my body.

wtf was he rubbing if he JUST got to the vag near the end?

"Mih-... mihh... mister Soniiicc...." Cream moans out, stopping her own words just to breathe. "It's... hah-happening again..." she cries out in an unstable note. She's close. Very close.

She doesn't care if anyone hears us at this point. She's making no attempt to keep a quiet tone. Her moans have gotten louder, and I can feel the moisture she's producing soak through my glove. I can feel it. Cream's girlish juices are seeping through my glove and touching my hand... I squeeze onto her just a bit more, speeding up my motions as I pierce into her half a dozen times a second. Cream clenches her eyes and grasps at my arm with her hands. There's no way anybody can't hear her with how loud she's being. I close my eyes and continue riding it out, hoping for the best.

"We're almost there, Cream..." I manage to grunt out. "Almost... almost...!"

And before I could say it again... it happens. Cream cries out into the night sky, at such a high pitch that her voice cracks. Her vaginal tunnels convulse against my finger as I start to slow down, which is soaked to the point where the darker shade of white can be noticed at a distance. I should at least be thankful that the background noise caused by the water gun race behind us drowned out the majority of her screams as it sirens out a big winner, as if the environment itself was cheering for us.

Cream goes limp in my arm as she attempts to compose herself. Her grip against me has weakened. My hand between her legs stops moving entirely, resting motionless against her petals. I don't even need to look to know that she's still dripping from her climax.

I keep her cradled in my grip for another minute as she regains her awareness. Her breathing slows to a normal rate, and I gently let her back down to the ground. "How ya feelin', Cream?" I ask her.

"That... felt so good... mister Sonic." she calmly pants out. She's clearly exhausted, but at least she sounds like she enjoyed it.

I finally release her and step back. It's only now that I realize just how badly soaked my glove was. Her fluids have stained the entirety of my index finger and then some. It reached down to the base and curved up to my knuckle. If I get my glove wet, it'll cover up the evidence. The fountain we were at earlier is an easy option.

Cream notices me looking at my finger and grows concerned. "Ahh- did I make a mess again? I'm sorry, mister Sonic!" I can't help but smile at her worry. I place my clean hand on her head.

"Don't worry about it."

She smiles right back at me. It's as if this was all just another game between us. Nothing special. I take her hand and we sneak ourselves back into open grounds. Strangely enough, nobody took notice to us. We didn't get any sort of dirty looks, or brought any cause of concern in our direction. We blended in with the crowd just fine.

The rest of the night was uneventful. We grabbed some ice cream and a few drinks before meeting back up with Amy and Vanilla, where we would spend the next few hours touring the rest of the fair. I dipped my finger into my soda to mask the scent of Cream's hormonal fluids from my hand before our rendezvous. Gotta admit... It was probably one of the best sodas I've ever had in my life.

After we parted ways with Amy later that night, I walked with Cream and Vanilla back to their home. As we head up to their house in Leaf Forest, me and Cream exchange knowing glances between each other. This isn't our first untold adventure, and it definitely won't be our last.

Vanilla unlocks the door, and the both of them walk inside. They turn to me. Vanilla looks down at Cream.

"Now, what do we say?" Vanilla speaks.

Cream bows in my direction.

"Thank you for the lovely evening, mister Sonic!"

I scratch the back of my head. "Oh, it's nothing! It was fun! We can do this again, anytime!"

"I look forward to it!" Cream immediately responds with a ton of enthusiasm in her voice, perking up with eyes so lit that she could set fire with a glance. Vanilla didn't suspect a thing. As far as she knew, we just had an innocent, fun-filled evening.

We say our goodnights as the door closes. I turn around and head my way. It was getting late, and I figured I should find somewhere to relax for a while.

I get a peek out of the corner of my eye in the one lit window in Vanilla's house. Cream is staring out from behind the glass, hands and face pressed onto it. Really must have left a lasting impression this time.

As the house disappears in the distance behind me, something nags at the back of my brain. It feels like I'm forgetting something. It probably wasn't anything important, but as time goes on the thought doesn't go away.

A little under a half hour of walking I run up a large tree to relax on top of one of the branches. I lay myself back, give a stretch of my limbs with a yawn to follow, and get myself comfortable. As I close my eyes and begin my supersonic sprint into dreamland... it finally hit me.

... Cream never put her underwear back on.

Then user fucks Vanilla while Cream plays on her Xbox one

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You know it's fuckers like you why we get stupid shit like the Chao car instead of Vanilla's Stationwagon.

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Yikes!

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crassic is peak 2d platforming