What went wrong?

What went wrong?

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They hired that autist Solais and that furfag tranny Tangelo/Scratch.

They removed the split screen

they got rid of the couch

The series hasn't been good since SS2

Devolver happened. Notice how Shadow Warrior also went to shit with 3?

They published SW 2013 as well

all 3 sw games were published by Devolver

People don't play the games on Serious, so they think it's all mindlessly S+M1

The First and Second Encounter were the only good ones.
Instead of making more like that, they went full retard and started experimenting.

SS3>SS4. Go fuck yourselves

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both are shit

Croteam should just make another Talos puzzle game

SS4 > SS2 > TSE > TFE > BFE

Ryan died.

This but in reverse order

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retarded bait

What the fuck even happened to SS4? say all you want about SS3, but it had much better graphics, animations, and models than 4 and that was 11 years ago. What happened in-between?

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>SS3 was 11 years ago
wtf

Impressive, isnt it?

uhhhh things

It makes sense when you remember that SS3 was originally a generic Cawadootie style military middle east desert game until they reworked it into being a Serious Sam game. This is why the game starts slow and the beginning takes place in a generic middle eastern city.

TFE = TSE > SM > SS4 > SS3 > TNE > SS2

Wasn't SS3 originally supposed to be Doom 4?

Nobody takes it seriously anymore

Put SS4 with BFE and then I'd agree

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I wonder if we can ever go through a single Sam thread without these 2 development facts about SS3 being mentioned. "SS3 was originally a different shooter" is the doki doki panic of Sam trivia.

>early beta footage showed rotating and floating weapon pickups
>final release goes back to SS3 style of weapons being placed in the world with physics

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It disgusts me that anyone at all praises 2. You launch the game and from the first moment you notice it's a console shooter. Feels like absolute shit to play on a fundamental level.

Ryan died

Filtered

Filtered by how trash the game is? Yeah I guess.

What's wrong with it being a console shooter?

they used their unfinished milsim and assets from their Doom 4 project into SS3. It's why the budget for SS3 was literally just 400k

I agree. I played 2 expecting at least TFE/TSE levels of quality or even better.
haha NOPE
I stopped caring about SS after finishing 2.

There are mods that can fix this. Too bad it doesnt fix how FUCKING CARTOONISH it was

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They got over-ambitous and 4 suffers for it to a degree, but otherwise it's still a great game. Haven't played or heard anything about the DLC myself though.

If you're talking about it's popularity though, it's got nothing for mass appeal. Serious Sam, for the most part, still follows the design of simply strafing in big open areas, so it's neither like nu-Doom nor Call of Duty. There's no competitive multiplayer aspect. And the story exists mostly to have fun as Sam, so there's no plot or lore for people to talk about either.

It's basically too straight forward of a video game to garner any discussion or controversy.

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Croteam hates you for making them make more serious sam games when the 1st was just an engine technology demo
(You) weren't supposed to enjoy the gameplay
(You) were supposed to pay them the engine license fee and make your own better game in serious engine
Every problem with serious sam stems from Croteam hating serious sam fans

SS3 had a few bad levels but was good overall.

Nothing, all of the Sam games are good

Devolver always published sam.
The only ones they weren't involved in were sam 2 and early spinoffs.

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>TSE > TFE
This is how we know you can't be Serious

Siberian mayhem is slightly better than 4, the new death beam is incredibly fun to use

What went right?

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The menu is garbage but it plays great, especially with the latest patch

I even bought the stupid thing on steam because of the patch
Me and my buddy fell asleep 1 hour in on serious x2 monster multiplier co-op
It's just boring and trash

Wait, they've made more than two? Sometimes I'm amazed how easy it is to make money of fools. Serious Sam 2 was hideous.

You haven't beaten the game.

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croteam's 'john carmack' left the company and works for google stadia now. He's the one that made the SS3 engine and started the SS4 one. SS4's performance is so fucking shit

So they'll be welcoming him back in 2 years time?

i hope so, he's been with them since the beginning and made the engines for all the games, extremely smart dude, shame google snatched him up

>google snatched moot 1.0
>put him to work on google+
>google+ is no more
>moot gets a retirement cheque to shame welfare mercenaries presumably

Official serious sam difficulty breakdown:

Tourist & Easy: suitable for small children enjoying their 1st FPS game
Normal: designed for games journalists and vtubers, they still struggle with it
Hard: a decent challenge for most people, but entirely skippable
Serious: the game the developers wanted you to play, you will be challenged, you will be bullshitted, you will die and you will win and you'll love it
Mental: score attack autism only, disregard

Needless to say you didn't beat the game if you played on lower than serious

>SS4's performance is so fucking shit
This is mostly down to the terrain lod system which is terribly inefficient with any of the preset values, if you go into the advanced settings and crush everything to do with this ss4 runs well and there is no perceptible quality difference.

Not as well as it should but so much better

they never hired scratch, just let him make the garbage revolutions port, but they did hire that faggot solais. I heard they relegated him to menial bullshit because they realized he's terrible at designing games
he doesn't work for google anymore, he's now the technical director at roblox according to his linkedin account

i've tried so many settings, it's just shit user. I can never get the game to run 120 fps consistent tinkering with all the advanced shit, it would even drop below 60 sometimes and I have a 9700K and RTX 2080 super.

Meanwhile sam 3 looks better than 4 and runs like a fucking dream. It's a shame sam 3 fucking sucks though.

Second encounter and SS2 are the best games in the series.

see

They keep doing what they want to and that's fine.
Love this series, hope they stay far away from 2's increasing enemy health on higher difficulties, but I'm glad that Sam's not a dead series yet.
The Siberian Mayhem survival maps added yesterday are fun, run well since there's no other 4km of map to render all the time, and lets me use the tank without blowing up my system.

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>Second encounter
No.

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TSE level design is mostly trash and the sniper rilfe trivializes entire arenas
It's still miles ahead of serious sam 2 or 3