Was it justified?

Yes, but only because all politics and political bs should be insta ban. Who side you're on shouldn't even matter.

What does the Z even stand for?

Russians are the new nazis, eg the bad goys all the other goys must hte

>daily russian war baiting thread
Surely the jannies will remove it faster than 300 replies today

/thread

>He literally said it wasn't intentional.
Yeah his mouse just slipped in a Z shape! Let's ignore the fact his teammates pinged it and scribbled over it as fast as possible.

It only feels random if you aren’t paying attention

Put yourselves in his shoes.
If this happened to you don't you think you would deserve the benefit of the doubt?
Especially with claims as severe as supporting a side in a current war?
It's completely unreasonable not to take his word for it as they have now recklessly ended his career and forever tarnished his name.

deeZ nutZ

>Who side you're on shouldn't even matter.
Except it does. You think he would've been banned if he drew a Ukrainian flag?

Yes, obviously. Russian dogs need to understand they have no room to chimp out in any way. Learn your place.

>He didn't mean to draw a swastika it was just a windmill!
This is how you sound

Because they were aware of how touchy the west is being about shit and noticed how it could be seen

>Yeah his mouse just slipped in a Z shape
Z is a common shape. It's simple and everyone is familiar with it.
If he says he wasn't making a statement and instead did it thoughtlessly should we not take his word for it? If he claims he isn't making a statement and that it was just a drawing then is it fair to punish him so severely?
It makes no sense.

Does not matter, the ban was because of it being seen as a political statement. I agree that its a mundane and silly thing to do. But if anyone has slava ukraini, or hong kong anything, or literally anything to do with politics and they get away scot free? Then fuck valve. Since at that point its literally roulette time at what might get you permabanned.

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>Because they were aware of how touchy the west is being about shit and noticed how it could be seen
My point exactly, he would've known that too

Swatistkas weren't always considered 'bad'.
The letter Z wasn't always associated with a war symbol. It's extremely recent that it became such a controversial thing. He deserves the benefit of the doubt.

>hehe only my russian friends will see this and they will think i am based
>blyat! everyone saw it and they think i'm cringe
>my "career"of playing video games is over! i better pretend it was merely an accident

Imma be straight wichou UNITED STATES MILITARY COMPLEX IN CONJUNCTION WITH MASS MEDIA

I'm not dying for some shitty third world country you didn't know existed six months ago. My gamer brothers aren't either. Send Bitch mconnel and gen psuckmynuts up in the front lines. Every protest should be at the Capitol, January sixth should be celebrated and the pit of vipers bleeding this country have no purpose other than filling their own pockets

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>r*ssian
of course it was

>Swatistkas weren't always considered 'bad'.
Yeah so you'd be happy if a German drew a swastika in a Dota game then?

swastika is a specific shape and has existed for quite a time before it became associated with Nazis
Z is letter of the Latin alphabet and part of many languages and cultures.
what are you gonna do, remove the letter Z from the alphabet?
this is retarded and you know it.

>hehe only my russian friends will see this and they will think i am based
Why would he think that?

>He literaly supported the bad guys in a war!!!!!!!!!
>No we arent at war with them
>No we arent allies with those who they attacked
>But but but but they just bad!!!!! Cal of duty told me so!!!!

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>Z is letter of the Latin alphabet and part of many languages and cultures.
What a pointless statement. What does it specifically mean to the Russian people?

You missed my point.
I'm saying that Z has only recently become something terrible.
The swatiska was turned into something else a long time ago. Z being a war symbol is recent. It could have very easily been a mistake and there is no reason not to take his word for it.

>If he was making a statement he would stand by what he did.
why do you say that? plenty of people regret doing dumb shit when they realize there are consequences

You don't belong here if you think drawing a swastika at any time is a bad thing. It's a bunch of lines.

The benefit of the doubt was already given when thousands of people collectively and graciously ignored the active war his president is waging. But typical Russian nigger mentality, can't just keep your head down and read the room. So, get fucked.

You're aware that plenty of Russian athletes are promoting the war with the Z symbol right? It's not just a random shape any Russian is gonna accidentally do in front of an audience

>Z being a war symbol is recent
And the word is a lot more connected and news travel much faster than it did back in WW2.

Sure they do but you still can't put words into someone's mouth like that it's not fair.
If he's saying he wasn't making a political statement then why shouldn't we believe him?

>invading a peaceful country solely for territorial gain
how is this not a bad guy thing to do?

How does it feel not having reading comprehension?

This. Only redditor soiboy faggots give a single fuck about this, and it's only so they can pretend they didn't fuck the world up with their covid rules and hope everyone forgets. It's all the exact same people.

Because he's an idiot.

He drew it, fixed the lower part, before others tried to scribble over it. And that is no farm route for AM.

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So because other people are doing something he gets his career ruined? That doesn't make sense.
Looking at this as anything but an individual case isn't fair to him.

>retards actually think it's this simple
You should just shut your mouth instead of regurgitating the diarrhea the news feeds you.

>Swatistkas weren't always considered 'bad'.
You're right in this, of course. However, like it or not there is a big difference between drawing a swastika pre and post nazism, for good or for ill.

Why are people always surprised when their actions have consequences?

It means nothing but russians and russia shills need something to band together behind

You think the war is so we are gonna forget about the two years of pandemic? Fucking retarded goblin.

>his teammates frantically scribbled where he drew so to try to keep his autism from fucking them
they're the only ones to feel bad for in this situation.

>no argument
>"news bad!!!"
ok dude. how is this war justified? explain it to me

How does it feel to know your ideas and thoughts will get you banned?

>And this probably happened because there was a single butthurt tournament organizer,

Likely this. Same reason why so many companies fold on an employee as soon as some blue haired retard from twitter sends them a caption of a tweet their employee made saying that they dont think that kids should be encouraged to be trannies. They want to avoid any and all confrontation.

How does this prove he supports a war?
Is drawing the letter Z a crime now?
Does his own word mean nothing?

Valve disqualified his team for promoting warmongering
His team fired him for being a retard
How is this not a completely fair sequence of events?

Agreed and not what I'm talking about.
I'm saying Z has only recently become associated with a war. He deserves the benefit of the doubt.

>Does his own word mean nothing
Russians lie as naturally as they breathe.
So no, they don't

What the fuck is the letter "Z" supposed to mean now? It's a goddamn zigzag

Is like that bullshit about the OK sign being racist? Some kind of fucking joke?

I'm not the person that originally made the statement you first replied to. I'm just pointing out that the original person said *should* as in it SHOULDN'T matter what side you're on, all political statements should be banned.
The SHOULD implies that, HOWEVER, this might not be the case now and indeed it's unfair if a single person gets banned because of a specific political statement as oppose to others.
You're arguing a point no one made (in this reply chain) because your reading comprehension is lacking. Hence I pointed it out.
Let me know if you need me to spell it out to you more clearly in a follow up comment, I'd be glad to.

>Draw the letter Z for fun
>Americans disqualify you from a tournament
>They inform you that the universally known and innocuous letter you just drew is actually hate speech on the level of the swastika

His point was valid. You say its good because all political stuff should be banned, but thats not what happens, what political stuff is and isnt allowed is largely one sided.

There's just no reason to draw a Z, do you give the benefit of the doubt to the dude who says he fell ass-first onto a lightbulb?

i thought gaben already banned russkis from dota. unless its contractual shit

>thoughts
I don't think he got banned for thinking, user. We're not there yet. He got banned for drawing a symbol - that is currently being used and pushed by the government behind an invasion of another sovereign country that most of the west is against - in a game. Which is an action, not a thought.

>the letter z is banned now
What a crasy world we live in.

The Maidan Revolution:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

>that desperate scribbling
kek poor bastards, the curse of an uncontrollable team mate

>bad thing... GOOD!

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>new

Obviously. There have been wars in that region almost non-stop and you never even heard of them. The only reason you're obsessed with this one is because the media is shoving it down your throat so people will forget about covid now we all had it and know it's literally weaker than a flu.
That would take a long time. You could educate yourself very easily, you have the entire internet at your fingertips, but you won't.

>draw literal symbol of war
>"How does this prove he supports a war?"
is this user even a real person?

>i-i didn't mean it!
Suuuure.

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Why are you playing dumb?

>You say its good
Quote where I (or that other user) said it's "good".

Are we really equating Russia invading a sovereign nation to SJWs now.
Really?

If this cunt made apologia for an invasion on a tournament where players from several Eastern European countries like the one being invaded attend, it's prefectly reasonable for the organizer to ban him.

>You have to justify every action you ever take or else we'll call you a nazi
Surely you don't think this is a good thing

Not all political statements are equal.
Just like Russians aren't really human

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Only recently used, yes, but pushed heavily both in the player's home country and a lot online. And from what I recall, the team that he was playing against was made up of Ukranians?
There is a possibility that it was all a misunderstanding. That all those factors are just an incredibly unfortunate coincidence. But.

only now is world waking up and responding to disgusting russian menace, they always were, Ukraine is just the last straw that finally woke up normalniggers. Fuck ruskiniggers, disgusting gopniks

I´m generally in favour of banning Russian scum from everything no matter what they did or didn´t do.

>plays against ukrainian team
>"accidentally" draws Z
>lower line is a bit small
>he "accidentally" corrects it
Kid is just an edgy russian retard.

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It always amazes me how spineless modern conservatives are. The same thing with the "Let's go brandon" shit. Why don't you pussies just actually say what you want to say and stand by it in face of the consequences? Fucking pathetic.

>Is drawing the letter Z a crime now?
As a russian yes it would be like drawing a swastika as german and saying all russian should have been killed in WW2 (which is true and based)

>promoting warmongering
This is a preposterous assertion.
He should have the right to defend himself. Them ignoring what he said and just punishing him is completely unfair.

Don't even bother with putin cum chuggers

>still no argument

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Why can't people "support" one side but can support the other? If you hated BLM, you couldn't say anything, or else you're banned. If you do support it, you can say it proudly and even get more support for it. What I'm saying is, if you can't show support for one on stream/etc and will be banned for doing so, you shouldn't be able to talk about it at all. Just have parity in the discussion. You shouldn't be talking about X thing of the day anyway in a DOTA stream or anything else either; regardless of which side you are on

Again, you don't give the benefit of the doubt to a German drawing a swastika and you can cry "But it's just a Z!" as much as you want but no one can give a good alternate reason why he'd draw one, especially when it's clear from the footage that all his teammates know exactly what a Russian drawing a Z looks like.

What does the N stand for?

cant wait for the day that all russians will be banned from video games.

>There have been wars in that region almost non-stop and you never even heard of them.
I literally meet fleeing Ukrainian families as part of my job. You're a fucking brain rotted schizo though so along with everyone you've ever known I'm not gonna care about your opinion

Russians don't deserve rights

Yes. All Russians must suffer.

I'm all in for anything that causes less russoids and chinks in online games in general.

>do your own research!!!!!!!
kek, everytime

>can't even add a spin to your content, just copypasted what made you mad
like fuck at least the retards that "made" the npc changed his eyes

Which is extra fucking funny when they spent 4 years berating people who wouldn't say Trump's name

Yes, that's a position you have. I'm not making a statement, I'm just explaining what the conversation is about.

Yes, it was.

Fuck Russia.
Fuck Putin.

Friendly reminder James got banned from ALL Valve e-sport events for saying you need a VPN to watch porn in china. If this dude didn't get banned I don't know what the fuck is wrong with Valve.

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thanks user I'd been looking for this one

Nobody needs to argue against you. The information is everywhere. The only reason you don't know already is because you don't want to know. Kill yourself, useful idiot.

Russkis play dumb and say nothing happened and it wasn't intentional. It's as common for them as breathing. Who gives a fuck what they say?

Z

anybody against Russia is an american subhuman.

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In the future all primitive shapes will be banned, and we'll have to do everything with curvy lines

I don't sit on /pol/ so I don't know the spicy new gaslighting memes of trying to drive the libs crazy by turning common symbols into dogwhistles

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SHOW SUPPORT TO YOUR COUNTRY

>Russia invades another sovereign nation while marking all of their military vehicles with a Z, turning that letter into a symbol for their own internal propaganda
>/pol/: LMAO ARE LIBRALS NOW GONNA BAN THE Z WORD HOW DUMB ARE THEY IT'S JUST A LETTER LMAO

You're right. As an aside, I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with being Jewish, and that anti-semitism is unironically a bad thing.

same fagging subhuman faggot with no human value

what do they eat? do they just leave locked down people to starve?

if it was some random fuck tournament without any context then sure maybe

but it was the eastern european tournament that the organizers had to bend over backwards to create because of the war AND THEN bend even further backwards to let russians compete because it was the russians fucking fault the normal games couldn't be held anyway, AND THEN a russian fuck just happens to scribble something that's been used by other russian athletes to show support for the war when matched against ukrainians AND THEN the russian org supporting him does the worst PR possible to try and cover for it

it's all fishy as fuck and if anyone doesn't deserve benefit of the doubt its russians. if you're already on thin ice and your entire country is known for being dumb bad faith instigators and liars why would you ever pull shit like this and think you could use the excuse 'you're just overreacting'.

>first N
>now Z
It's official, New Zealand is the #1 neo-nazi chud gamer haven

Yeah you can, you just have to deal with the consequences.

>No we arent allies with those who they attacked
Who is saying this? I agree with the rest though

I only feel bad for his teammates who clearly wanted nothing to do with the dude's retardation

>why shouldn't we believe him?
Because he's a white male, and all white males are guilty

>YOU BELIEVE THING DUDE
>"No, I don't."
>NOPE, YOU LITERALLY BELIEVE KILLING PEOPLE AND WAR IS GOOD, THERE GOES YOUR CAREER AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE WORKED FOR LOL

Nobody gives a fuck what you say you do here, newfag retard. My point still stands and is 100% true. Just because you were fooled into going to 'help' for this one war that you heard about on tv, doesn't mean there haven't been plenty more that weren't ADVERTISED as much as this one. You didn't care about them and you don't care about this one, you're just doing what you're told. Fucking retarded sheep.

>Russia invades another sovereign nation while marking all of their military vehicles with a Z
Not all their vehicles were labelled with Z, only some were, and the symbols indicate the origin of the vehicle.

>All right, pie. I'm going to start doing this, and if you get eaten it's your own fault!

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LAST TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z

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Sorry nigga but "Let's Go Brandon" and "Drumpf/45" are the same shit

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James was the only thing keeping the Major alive. It has so many problems and interuptions, iirc he had to keep the how running for 2 hours because of it.

Yes The bugpeople literally don´t care about human live not even that of their own countrybugs.

Putin in a midget faggot, hope you get stabbed on your shithole.

Yeah, kind of fucking stupid for anyone who called Trump the 45th to laugh at Let's go Brandon.

In CSGO the russian orgs aren't even allowed to use their branding

The arguments of the pro Russia people on this site are getting increasingly desparate. Are we finally past the "Russia is based and redpilled" era?

Z is banned
N is banned
what's next? J for Jew? M for Muslim? B for Budhism?

The symbol Z was used so they would know it was theirs, since a lot of the vehicles in use for the Russian Army are Soviet leftovers that the Ukranian Army also has.
An overwhelming majority of the vehicles in the "operation" have been marked with the Z letter.

You dumb fucking faggots trying to pretend symbols are contextless are either retarded or Russian.

They should have drawn extra Z and then said "We were saying ZZZZZZZZZZ cause it's so boring haha"

There are tons of “fuck biden” flags where I live
you’ve never been in a red county in your life faggot

This lol
Also I do not trust the media portrayal of this conflict at all.
>Ukraine enacts emergency law preventing all males from leaving the country
>Anyone trying to leave through Ukraine humanitarian corridors out of country is mined (The Russians did it!)
>now law where not supporting war on social media has Ukraine soldiers show up at your house to arrest you
>Ukraine soldiers fight out of civilian areas exclusively

>don't hear about war or other mishappenings so do nothing about it
>do hear about war and so do something about it
>gets called a sheep for doing something about the thing he heard about

bruh

He´s a russo asiatic mongrel. Probably 10% Turk thrown into the mix.

>leftists hate any source of information but the MSM shit-funnels down their throat
This is why the tides are turning. Everyone is realising how utterly stupid you fuckers are.

naZi

>i-i-it's n-n-not f-faaaair
lol butthurt

GWAK GWAK GWAK

Why are shills always desperate to make the most retarded false equivalence?

post the info then you fucking retard

>An overwhelming majority of the vehicles in the "operation" have been marked with the Z letter.
They haven't been.

>
You dumb fucking faggots trying to pretend symbols are contextless are either retarded or Russian.
It was picked out as Z isn't a Cyrillic character.

I think it was kinda harsh to punish the whole team right away, but the tournament organizers probably didn't have many other options because it's extremely bad rep to have something like this happen. It's pretty clear the Z was intentional and Pure is just an edgy kid.
Virtus Pro's acting like victims afterwards is real fucking cringe.

And which of those "unadvertised" wars had rules about men not being allowed to leave the country in order to fight?

>I-I was only pretending to be retarded!

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You're acting like an edgelord russian has the brainpower to work that out on the fly

Obviously we ban the entire alphabet and use emoji as hieroglyphics like nogs do.

I don't think either letter is banned.
Using N as part of the word nigger is not acceptable in many places. Using Z as a symbol of support for the illegal invasion of Ukraine is not acceptable in many places. That is not the same thing as banning the letters.
I can still say and write many words containing the letters N and Z and because I'm not using them to call for black people or Ukrainians to be exterminated, it will be fine.

Exactly. Now you're getting it. You were fed this shit by the media but you weren't fed the same shit other times the exact same thing happened. Why do you think that is? You retarded fucking sheep.

Look at these Russian kids doing a genuine manifestation of the Z letter :)

Nothing political to see there folks, the kids just held a votation and decided on the Z letter because they liked it the most.

They also have Russian flags because they love their country, what's wrong with that are you a liberal or something?

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>rightoids pretend to be critical thinkers yet swallo up everything their retarded propaganda channels tell them

Really makes you think.

>"We're such fucking badasses dude!"
>"We totally just fucking ruined this kids career over the letter Z even though he said it was a mistake and had nothing to do with the war but now everyone will look and see how fricking virtuous we are!"
>"That's fricking right dude! No frickin limits! You done make an oopsie bro! Not on my frickin watch!"

They cannot prove a contextless Z drawn on the map is pro war, it’s an assumption.

Fair enough but from their perspective they are the good guys. Most Russians support the war and a lot of them think Putin is showing too much restraint

You know very well why it's banned and which nation tried to spam this shit all over the net to show how strong they are. If you aren't a retarded vatnik why are you spamming russian propaganda on a international tournament organized by the very western countries that this Z shit was aimed at? Go do that on chinese tournaments(but you will be banned too because china is alreay laughing at russia)

>Implying Ukraine has ever been a sovereign country
>Implying their president isn't a literal fucking actor whose last credit was playing the fucking president
>Implying he wasn't personally installed by Putin for this very show
>Implying this whole stage play isn't just to clear out the Eastern region so China can build their Belt Road infrastructure with no resistance from the locals since they are now all "refugees" and sent away

You fuckers really just believe what they tell you

>Military camps and Dota lobbies are the same thing

The context is he's a Russian player on a Russian team playing against Ukrainians

fpbp

Z pathing is pretty common in MOBAs
i agree he was probably trolling with it, but it also could have easily been a genuine mistake too.