ELDEN RING LORE THREAD

No she wanted to remove the abillity of humans and outer gods to interfere with the order of the world through their thoughts or actions. She departs on her space trip so the order can't be accessed by anyone on Earth.

yes i found that out after i beat the game

No, she does not. For whatever reason, Ranni and her distant siblings Miquella and Malenia are Empyreans, they are chosen children to ascend the throne, Ranni for whatever reason similar to Lothric the Younger in DSIII despises this edict but we don't know exactly why.

Ranni wanted to be free from being an Empyrean and the Greater Will. It makes sense that her great rune would be rebirth even if she never uses it and just becomes a ghost

>I also don't trust you to translate it for me
Time to learn Japanese then.

Guide: rentry.org/gitgud
Resources: learnjapanese.moe/

be sure to read John's story
>How I got 180/180 on N1 in ~8.5 Months!
rentry.org/9pe4o

But essentially what John's method IS:

* Start reading every day (and listening)
* Go through a grammar guide (like Tae kim or Cure Dolly)
* Go through a common vocab deck (like core2.3k)
* Mine stuff into Anki that you encounter in your Japanese media

A detailed guide of what John did can be found on
pastebin.com/0ANbbfHR

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It probably has something to do with having an alien parasite manipulate you like a puppet and live inside your own body.

Go back

Reposting question. What is going on in terms of time, space and parallel universes in this game?

>When you first get to the Roundtable the game outright tells you: "The Roundtable Hold is located outside of this world, and fast travel by grace is the only means or reaching it"
>Fortified Manor is a complete mirror of it, to the point where it has items related to the characters in the Hold (you get a seedbed curse in the place the Dung Eater appears, Alberich's corpse where he invades, Hewg's hammer where he is and so on). It also starts to burn as the tree starts to burn (not as the capital starts to burn), as if it's being maintained by the tree.
>All the lore around invasions and co-op, even by in-game npcs, talks about invading worlds. What you do during invasions doesn't seem to affect your world and when you get invaded by Ensha it feels like you're in yet another Roundtable without anyone around.
>Evergaols seem similar in concept, specially the one locking the entrance to the Haligtree.
>Godslayer's Greatsword is supposed to be the GEQ's sword and the source of the black flame wielded by the apostles. It would be weird if there were 2 of it. Yet when you invade Vargram he is using it, as if he is also going through the game in his world.
>Wilhelm is said to have had a confrontation with Vargram and got imprisoned in the Roundtable Hold. Yet you invade both in the Fortified Manor.
>Vargram is said to be one of the first tarnished to visit the Roundtable, the fact that he is still around leads me to think it hasn't been that long since the first tarnished went there, but the Coded Sword description says: "Champions would gather at the Roundtable Hold in days long past, when the Two Fingers were masters of oration, their flesh yet full of vigor"
>Gurranq being dead and alive at the same time in Farum Azula and in the Bestial Sanctum.
>Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones and Placidusax.
>Farum Azula in general.

There is more but the comment is getting too long.

Friendly reminder that
primeval current - outer god
fell god of flame - outer god
dark moon - outer good
rot god - outer god
blood star - outer god
greater will - outer god
god of death - outer god
frenzy flame - outer god
gravity - outer god
crucible of life - outer god

>but we don't know exactly why
Yes we do she literally tells you

Wow, another thread spoiled at the very start by translation autists who aren't even here to discuss the lore, just to sow discord.
They're basically Shazam trannies, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was some overlap between them.

>primeval current - outer god
wrong
>gravity - outer god
wrong
>crucible of life - outer god
wrong
stop listening to schizos and grow a brain

i had noticed an instance or two of subject confusion, common problem with japanese translations. They weren't very consequential though, i don't think. I don't envy the job in the slightest.

>here in the lands between, EVERYTHING is an outer god!

It is Ranni's desire to release the Greater Will's grip on the lands between. She wants the lands between to be free of the influence of outer gods.

"I would keep them far from the earth beneath our feet."

I think it will prob backfire since the dark moon is an outer god, but her plan is to try and keep it's influence far from the lands between, out in space or whatever.

>since the dark moon is an outer god
i despise you and all other schizos like you

>Wrong

>No argument in opposition

>grow a brain

lol lmao even

>She wants the lands between to be free of the influence of outer gods.
retard
>I think it will prob backfire since the dark moon is an outer god
definitely a retard

thats why she only allowed the dark moon to rule for 1000 years, contingency incase it backfires.

Why does bonfire girl and blue witch have opposing missing eyes?

Why is Radagon the same person as Marika

Why do all the mages go barefoot but wear stone masks

What the fuck is the alien thing you gotta fight during Ranni's quest

Is the madness stuff like actual going batshit insane or is it meant to mean something else

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Screenshot me so you can apologize when the DLC is released.

>All those cool names
>And then there is just "gravity"

done
when the dlc is released and has nothing to do with anything you WILL drive to where I live and give me a blowjob

Left just gravity in there jokingly, but whatever the alabaster and onyx lords worship is likely an outer god.

That's kinda gay bro

>but whatever the alabaster and onyx lords worship is likely an outer god.
they dont worship anything you schizo

Do they even worship anything?

It's SUPPOSED TO BE unclear about the lore, it's a simulation of when Miyazaki was a boy and he'd read American porn mags but couldn't quite clearly make out the jew propaganda so he had to fill in the blanks himself while he was shooting blanks.

This is what rope simps unironically want. Gay with a doll's body shaped like a flat young boy.

There is no proper "other timelines" explanations but I also don't think they're as explicit in the "other world" talk. Bernhal for example I can't remember implying you would go to other timelines, he just wanted to make sure you understood you would be killing Tarnished in general. There are inconsistencies like the item duping tho. I find it hard to get mad about little things like that since its just vidya contrivance desu but that's just a cop out as far as explanations go.

All magic is derived from outer gods. It's dumb to think their magic isn't. Whatever out god Astel is an emissary of is likely their god.

Pathetic head cannon formulated with the sole purpose of justifying the simping to the stupid doll.

Your meds, bro

>Why does bonfire girl and blue witch have opposing missing eyes?
no one knows.
>Why is Radagon the same person as Marika
It was some horse shit writing.
>Why do all the mages go barefoot but wear stone masks
The stone masks are Glintstone, the mages use it to increase magic potential.
>What the fuck is the alien thing you gotta fight during Ranni's quest
Astel? Its a maddening creature from far away that came into the world from a reality fissure.
>Is the madness stuff like actual going batshit insane or is it meant to mean something else
No, madness is based on your tangential connection to the Frenzied Flame. Which is a sin.

where does malenia poop

Different posters, rope simp.

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girls don't poop bro wtf

The stars are not outer gods
>B-but the blood star-
One singular exception.
The cosmos is not an outer god
The primeval current is not an outer god
The dark moon is not an outer god

She doesn't it just rots away in her bowels.

nigs don't understand some things are just beyond us as we are

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I'm glad you are starting to come around, by accepting the blood star is an outer god.

Why do you think the blood star is and the primeval current isn't? Genuinely curious.

Raw Ranni ending discussion jap text:
>………
…やはり気付くか。さすがだな
もう少し、話しておこうと思ってな
私の律について
私の律は、黄金ではない。星と月、冷たい夜の律だ
…私はそれを、この地から遠ざけたいのだ
生命と魂が、律と共にあるとしても、それは遥かに遠くにあればよい
確かに見ることも、感じることも、信じることも、触れることも
…すべて、できない方がよい
だから私は、律と共に、この地を棄てる
それでも、付いてきてくれるのだろう?ただ一人の、私の王よ

Shitty DeepL translation:
.........
...I knew you would notice. That's what I'm talking about.
Thought I'd tell you a little more about it.
About my law.
My law is not gold. It is the law of the stars and the moon, the law of the cold night.
...I wish to keep it far away from the land.
Life and soul, if they are to be with the Law, need only be far, far away.
Surely to see, to feel, to believe, to touch...
...all, it is better not to be able to do.
Therefore, I abandon the earth with the law.
But you will still follow me, won't you? Only one, my king.

This is also a shit translation, I don't want any of you niggers diving into the translation unless you actually know what you're talking about

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What do you think Caelid is

do you have anything to back that up, or are you insisting on it because you don't want to accept the contrary opinion?

Down the throats of errant Tarnished wandering too close to the Haligtree roots

Remove outer god order/will/influence/whatever from the world. Keep it far away.

see feel touch blah blah - people won't be aware of her order, won't wage wars over it. Free will, rather than grace, and whatever others versions of such other outer gods have.

What’s the lore?

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The elden ring is an amalgam of different powers that exist in the universe, the greater will is the the one who wants to gather more powers to be ruler of the cosmos. A lot of sweet powers are in the lands between. One of these was the crucible, the roots of the first erdtree. Dragons were given first rights as gods/elden lords since they were the most powerful at the time. The GW wanted to upgrade, so cometh Marika etc.

Along the way the GW has been incorporating new powers into the elden ring or trying to stamp out powers that are problematic, like the fell god and gloam eyed queen. These other gods however still retain some influence and have been manifesting in Marika and Radagon through their offspring. This sets the stage for the shattering and a chance to reclaim power from the GW.

Blood Star is associated with Aberrant Sorceries, which require Faith and don't use Intelligence at all. Primeval, Glintstone, Gravity, Carian, Frost, and so on spells do not require Faith at all. They are not affiliated with any divine source, only natural fonts of power like the Primeval current.

>The guilty, their eyes gouged by thorns, lived in eternal darkness. There, they discovered the blood star.
NIGGER THE BLOOD STAR IS MENTIONED ONCE WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT BE AN OUTER GOD
THIS GAME IS LIBERAL AS FUCK WITH NAMING THINGS OUTER GODS, IF IT DOESN'T NAME SOMETHING AS AN OUTER GOD IS IT PROBABLY NOT A GODDAMN OUTER GOD
fuck I'm mad

They're disciples of Godrick, a three time loser and weakest Runebearer.

Briars from the blood star, primeval school of sorcery from the primeval current, erdtree and golden order funadmental incantations from the GW, magma from the serpent diety cited in the serpent-gods curved sword description, cold spells from the dark moon (frozen armament, freezing mist), death school of spells from the death god per spell descriptions, etc etc.

>seething so hard about muh translation
That doesn't make her ending sounds better, faggot. I have read both.

The world is shit because of her actions, and people are going to latch onto whatever religion promises them salvation.
The "order" means absolutely nothing, because humans are going to make whatever is the strongest, or the most influential the new order anyways.

outer gods

The amount of progressive themes in this game are seriously unreal. The final boss is canonically a non binary transsexual. Look at the names of the major characters. (T)Ranni. Miquella. Godwin/Godfrey. It’s all ab bunch of LGBT bullshit propaganda. Really disgusted that fromsoft has catered to this bullshit

Can you make a big pic so I can save the post?

Some of the more insane TWLID spirits.
They are really weak to holy damage, and even get killed by heal incantations.

Reading through the last thread. A lot of you are genuinely retarded.
Most conclusions you are able to make are meant to be inferred. Demanding proof for anything destroys the conversation.
I know autism prevents some from actually thinking abstractly about things, and makes you have tunnel vision, but try your best.

The user that insists that every person alive during the events of the game is technically TWLID is the worst of all.

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no I am lazy.
Just copy paste it into an text file idk

>An aberrant sorcery, discovered along with red glintstone by those exiled to the north for their crimes.
>An aberrant sorcery discovered by exiled criminals.
>The guilty, their eyes gouged by thorns, lived in eternal darkness. There, they discovered the blood star.
>A heretical staff fashioned from a smoldering, withered sapling that turns the blood of sacrifices pierced by it into glintstone. Similar to hex magic. Sorceries are scaled with faith rather than intelligence when wielding this staff which enhances Thorn (Aberrant) sorceries in particular.
>Mad Tongue Alberich's pointed hat, a sign of a heretical practitioner. Set with red glintstones said to be formed by the blood of sacrifices.
>A device of fearsome religious encouragement, it is fashioned in the image of the briars of sin.
I think there's enough contributing evidence to say that the Blood Star is a god of some sort.