Should they just retire Modern Sonic?

Obviously, they could never do it in the real world; it'll be too risky. I'm just speaking in a perfect world.

Most of the autism with Sonic comes from Modern Sonic, Archie Sonic and Mohawk Sonic (the last two suck too). But I haven't really seen this with Classic.

Plus, his design is just better and is a lot more timeless.

Thoughts?

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Yes. Absolutely.
Classic's design is simply untouchable. Simplistic greatness. They added too much bullshit to his redesign and spoiled the charm.

Gameplay failings aside, the era between CD and R was peak Sonic. Best overall aesthetics, best character designs, best soundtracks, characters didn't talk. SEGA pigeonholed themselves by trying to replicate Adventure for 20 years and even when people very clearly prefer it when they go back to their Classic roots (eg Generations and Mania), somehow they still don't listen.

What I wouldn't give for a CD 2 with better level design and a timetravel mechanic that sucks less.

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erafags are the sonic equivalent of dobson shitting his pants over mario not being from brooklyn and link not having pink hair anymore but its okay when erafags do it because sega doesnt make consoles anymore

They already ruined Pac-Man by regressing him to mobile-tier shit after the failure of a reboot nobody wanted, I don't want Sonic to end up the same way.

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Take your pills.

There's not a single black person in that picture.

Classic faggots are a cancer upon all of gaming.

Adventure Sonic overstayed his welcome

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No he didn't, He just got replaced by Pontaff Sonic.

Also because you SatAM boomers kept deluding yourselves into thinking non-canon media was the true lore.

The autism around the classic series manifests in a different way, like nitpicking the physics, having an intense hatred towards anything non-classic, being overly familiar with the beta builds, and having intricate knowledge of the teams that developed the games (see: Lange on Twitter, Cybershell on Youtube)

I only care about the games. Eggman is evil, traps animals and wants the Chaos Emeralds, Sonic is the good guy, that's it.

>a lot less degenerate
lol yeah right

It's already this way, did you miss all those temple run clones?

Maybe, but it's a lot less degenerate.

None of those took priority over the console games. Pac-Man's been exclusively mobile or essentially mobile-tier that's ported to consoles with bare-minimum content like CE2.

Agreed. "Sonic lives with humans in Station Square California" was cringe, glad they got rid of that.

Sonic's always lived with humans, dipshit. It's been heavily implied since the Classics. Especially with the Japanese lore where it's more or less concrete Sonic was living on earth, just on fictional islands.

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There are humans in OPs pic.

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biggest own to classic cucks in history lmao

He briefly zooms through human-inhabited urban areas, we see that as early as Star Light and Spring Yard. But he actually lives out in the tropics (Green Hill)

The easiest one is reminding them Dr Robotnik is a fucking human

>(HEADCANON)
There's zero art or text description of people in the original games.

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The OP's picture above is literally Classic-era artwork... and it has fucking humans.

>cartoons

>manga

The only game that had remotely realistic-styled humans was Sonic 06. All the other humans from the Adventure-era were anime-styled, more than anything.

You say that like autism is a bad thing

Saturn is not the original games though? The Sonic Jam animation isn't really classic either.

But many of the oldest game characters come from the manga or Naoto Oshima. It's a more legitimate source when it's from the creator of Sonic.

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And Sonic's obsession with chili dogs comes from AoStH and Archie, doesn't mean they're canon to the games.

ray is lookin' kinda thicc tho.

user, I...

They are now.

You might as well say Sonic X is canon as well for that matter, dipshit.

Chilli dogs actually are real canon now. It's mentioned on the Japanese website a bunch of times, and they have appeared in a few games. Dunno why. I think Japanese just love food and silly details like that.

Sonic's love for Chilli Dogs is canon, AoStH, SatAM and Archie aren't canon continuities though.

It's like how Pac-Land was a recursive adaptation of the Pac-Man cartoon for the main game franchise, but that didn't exactly make the cartoon itself canon.

who is that cool bird lad?

imo in an ideal world there would be a clear divide between the two, kinda evocative of Mega Man vs Mega Man X. That's not the absolute best example, given that those games actually are part of one single continuity, but you get what I mean. 3D titles would use the modern designs and the 2D titles, exact recreations of the Genesis gameplay or not, would use the original designs.

Judging by Forces and Mania they do seem to have decided that classic and modern are separate continuities which just happen to have a few core games overlapping, but I doubt Mania is ever going to get a sequel, even if Origins sells like hotcakes. I really wouldn't even want every game to get pigeonholed like that. Maybe if they went with that approach and had a few concrete successes they could eventually start mixing it up and step on the other side's toes some, 3D games with classic designs and vice versa, and incorporating the other branch's characters. I can just imagine a classic-style reinterpretation of Ow the Edge, a straight up Doom clone where you run around at 100 mph in first-person, shooting aliens and robots with laser guns, and with platforming segments like Doom: The Golden Souls.

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Sonic has been going through an identity crisis since its inception. The franchise has never had any clue what it wants to be.

Sonic is unsalvageable, because the franchise's lack of consistency means that no two Sonic fans have the same tastes. Sonic isn't even a franchise, it's just a bunch of wildly different media that just happen to star a blue hedgehog.

I know it's canon, that's what I'm saying. The thing itself is canon, the original source material is not.

Have things specifically from Sonic X ever appeared in a game?

apparantly his name is Max

Maybe if they add Shadow to it first.

The issues with modern sonic are entirely contrived on satisfying people that don't exist that scream about having to play literally anyone but sonic. While there is something to be said about Hedgehog engine boost games being a bit tired now.
The idea that modern sonic as an entity is entirely unsalvagable is just wrong.

this is accurate, Sonic just can't be consistent where the fans disagree on everything but you look at Mario and people agree on most things save for spin off titles, you got classic fans who say only classic is good, you got modern fans who say only boost stuff is good, you got adventure fans who defend those games despite the glaring flaws and none of them seem to be able to agree on anything.

they did shill sonic X in the directors cut of adventure, does that count?

I don't think so? I think Sonic X was purposely made to be very self-contained and unimportant. It's an isekai.

>it's an isekai
the funny thing is, your not wrong considering that kid literally went to Sonics world later on.

They should retire sonic teams. Fans make good classic and sonic games.

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and modern games*

The bracelets around Shadow's wrists being Power Inhibitors came directly from Sonic X, and Sonic 06's final cutscene (as well as the official comics) adopted that into canon.

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Well uhhhhhh that doesn't count because uhhhhhhh I called you a name so I win forever, okay?
Also I'm trans btw

adapting material from non-cannon things doesn't make the non-cannon thing cannon especially if it's supplemental stories.

then again they retconned G.U.N existing so who the fuck even knows what Sonic cannon is since it's a cluster fuck.

They should make a Sonic Adventure Battle (Royale) 3 but give him Heelys instead of Soap shoes.

>The art from the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog
>From some of it's most constructive of the series's roots
>Doesn't count because muh only furriiies muh wacky animals
fuck off retard

>Have things specifically from Sonic X ever appeared in a game?

Yeah, all the terrible voice actors (and Mike Pollock)

>But I haven't really seen this with Classic.
Good thing you made this thread then.

>a plot point being in a canon story doesn't mean it's canon

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oh wait never mind I'm retarded and didn't read so good
I thought you were talking about the power limiter stuff and not X itself

bros… classic Sega art makes me so fucking nostalgic I tear up, all these years later

Yea Forums humor

all good mang.

to put it in perspective, ash greninja is cannon to the games but that does in no way imply that ash is cannon to the games, or when mass attack referenced the Kirby anime doesn't make the anime cannon to the games it's just a reference and nothing more.

...Smash is 100% cannon to fire emblem though which is funny.