Let's settle this debate once and for all!

okay, done

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The gif demonstrates that any portal defined as moving by a given reference frame will possess the capacity to alter the speed of objects passing through them. This completely contradicts A's argument.

Please specify if you mean A according to the OP of this thread in which case you are absolutely correct, or if you mean the "traditional" A in which case you are absolutely retarded

B. There was no force applied to the cube.

Oh I see, OP pulled the "clever" switch the letter's stunt. What a fag.

It literally doesn't modify any speed there, the same thing happens 3 times.

And that's why the cube will fly out of the portal.

portals don't conserve momentum by any stretch of the imagination.
they are by all means magical. anything could happen, if you imagine it that way.

C. Portals physically can't move.

B fag on suicide watch

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The thing is A (here B) actually can't be imagined. It's a logical impossibility that leads to many contradictions. B (here A) on the other hand is perfectly consistent and intuitive.

The cube is not moving though

>The thing is A (here B) actually can't be imagined
Bfags proving they're literal brainlets lmao

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>posting the edit

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but he doesn't move, this is an argument for the B side

>"no you see, his speed has been modified when he passed through the window frame"

B (traditionally A)

It's the same thing three times with the third shot showing the event from a reference frame that defines the portal as moving. Upon which under that reference frame you can see the cube's speed changing. Thus demonstrating that if the portal is moving under a given reference frame then the passing object will also change speed under that same reference frame.

Meanwhile Afags will just make the same shitpost over and over and demonstrate zero understanding of what they are being told.

ITT: Retarded B-autist desperately try to wrangle mischievous A-jokers.

you wouldn't understand.

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It clearly is.
No, it's you, in fact, who utterly lack imagination. You can repeat platitudes but you can't see in your mind's eye what is happening.
I understand both perfectly.

It's not changing, it just appears to be accelerating because the whole frame of reference is moving, the planet also rotates so you will see the same phenomenon from far high enough.

I think there was an article explaining that (A) is the source-engine scenario,meanwhile B would probably be the real-life scenario.
It's quite hard to think of portals in one way or another given that's an esoteric subject,whichever really is the case.

Object in motion stays in motion.

Since the object is not in motion its just going to slide out.

>it just appears to be accelerating
And it's going to "appear" to hit you in the face if you stand in front of it.

>It clearly is.
How so? It's just sitting there waiting for the piston.

How does the cube leave the blue portal if it's not moving?

Look through the portal, and you will see movement.

>You can repeat platitudes but you can't see in your mind's eye what is happening.
I'm imagining it right now and there's no way you can disprove that I can't.

Because the portal is passing around the cube.

Yes, movement from the portal, not the object.

The same way your father failed to pull out of your mother when she was riding him

How did you manage to acknowledge the planet rotating and fail to come to the logical conclusion?

Any given reference frame is going to be moving because literally everything in the universe is moving. So when you define something as not moving it's already because of a moving reference frame that it's defined as stationary.

So if you're looking at a moving portal, you've already defined it as a moving due to a moving reference frame. The argument of a change in speed only being perceived that way due to a moving reference frame becomes pointless.

I'm convinced at this point you are just pretending to be dense.

How does the cube leave the STATIONARY BLUE PORTAL if it's not moving? Actually answer the fucking question.

The portals are not really moving in that gif in none of the 3 examples exactly because they are stationary in each frame of reference. So yes, its consistent with A (here B)
Because orange portal modifies the edges of blue portal which are against the base so it slides down due to gravity.

Honestly, I'd rather see this thread over coomers posting porn with some thinly veiled excuse of a question for "discussion". Like the Overwatch 2 guy.

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Even in a oversimplified understanding of movement the portals clearly moving due to being on a moving train. Claiming they are not moving contradicts even the most basic understanding of movement.

I bet you're a 5, 4 at best. Your "imagining" doesn't count for anything. You're not actually envisioning anything, you're just telling yourself that it happens because you're following rules.

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The portal is clearly stationary. You're looking right at it. It's not moving in the slightest.

You are always moving too, at every single moment of your life even if you stand "still".

Yes, hence A (formerly B)

Orange portal is not still though and thus modifying space for blue portal's output.

>yes because i said so
So you are throwing?

That doesn't really matter. It's coming out of the blue portal. Anything before that can be safely ignored.

>it doesn't matter
Why? The cube is still not moving until gravity affects it though.

I'm agreeing with you, idiot. I guess you didn't realise what you were saying.

B-ish

It's clearly moving. In fact it's not coming out of that portal unless it is. That's a fact.

So you agree the logical solution is B (here A) then? Ok

It's not moving though, space is being modified around it until it drops down due to gravity.

Any argument in favor of A in this pic has always been disingeneous and trolling.

this is confusing ngl

What would impart energy onto the cube to make it fly off in A? B makes the most sense to me, but I am just some fucking guy

That's exactly what I said, yes.

I wasn't that user. But at this point it sounding more and more like you don't know what you're trying to argue for.

How would the box in A suddenly have the kinetic energy of the piston moving the orange portal? Clearly B is the correct answer

>space is being modified around it
It's just a hole, dude.

There's no force being applied to the cube, the whole A (formerly B) argument is ignorance in understanding the law of physics

>energyfags ITT

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Change the weighted storage cube into a long wooden utility pole standing straight up:
>wooden utility pole is 50m long
>orange portal is moving downward at 25m/s

So, it would take 2 seconds for the wooden pole to travel through the portal, but think about what happened after just 1 second. It traveled 25 meters out the end of the portal. So, the wooden pole would have a velocity of 25 meters per second. After it passed all the way through, it would still have its velocity.

A is obviously correct.

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I think the idea is that momentum is generated from the act of emerging from the portal at great speed. But I don’t see why it would impart that much moment rather than simply add maybe a foot or so.

So you agree it is B as in ITT's B, ok