Why is Warhammer so fucking stupid?
Why is Warhammer so fucking stupid?
Brayden Lopez
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Jaxon James
Because stupid is entertaining
Aaron Fisher
been around too long under the creative direction of too many people, drank too much of its own koolaid, lazily excused its more stupid aspects with too much 'its supposed to be ridiculous' irony
it was originally just a backdrop to insert 'your dudes' in to for the tabletop game, and has slowly grown into the bloated abomination it is now
Angel Torres
cause it's fun
Charles Edwards
warhammer was a giant mess of random pop culture references that started taking itself too seriously.
Jaxson Myers
somehow the most recent stuff feels like its trying to play itself straight and serious even more than the peak grimderp that was 3E
Sebastian Flores
>Siege of Gereon describes a typical Imperial engagement against rebels. The Guard deployed all their forces, held none in reserve, did not do any reconnaissance, and sent everyone forward in a mass bayonet charge. The guard were so pressed in tight together it was possible for men to die standing up, be pushed along by the throng, only to fall to the ground when they fell back, which was great because the rebels were using basilisk and other artillery against the Guard.
>Guardsmen were sent to die against massive mile high walls to form ramps of dead bodies so they could climb them. Seriously though, why are there are no sappers in the guard? No Engineering corps with crossing vehicles? What the hell are those dozer blades on their tanks for? I guess it's the Imperium though, and stupidity is grimdark, right?
>Oh, and of course after a few billion guardsmen die and they take the hive, a titan comes in and obliterates the wall in one shot (killing a couple thousand more Guard), making all the billions of deaths useless. Turns out that the IG general just wanted to take the fortress for his own glory and didn't want to wait for Titan support which was just a few days away. And he gets away with it and gets accolades heaped upon him as well, just to hammer in GRIMDARK. That right there describes the Imperium in a nutshell. They could have taken the city with only a couple hundred thousand or so casualties but instead wasted billions of men to take it in mind bogglingly stupid plans. There's a reason why many people make the claim that the Imperium are space skaven
The setting is most fun when you embrace the grimderp.
Brandon Butler
The problem is not that it took itself way too seriously back in 3-6th ED, the problem is that its slowly deforming itself into some Warcraft noblebright faggotry with heroes for every race, completely shitting and ignoring on what made 3-6th so amazing.
And it was only a retarded parody with British cops in space for like 2 editions, get over it, you didn't even played 1ed or 2ed.
Michael Lewis
It's just not as cool or fun as Warhammer Fantasy.
Daniel Gutierrez
>And it was only a retarded parody with British cops in space for like 2 editions, get over it, you didn't even played 1ed or 2ed.
rude, please point to where i did any yearning for rogue trader
Juan Lee
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Asher Williams
It started as a rip off of other sci-fi series (2000 AD, Dune, ETC), but now they rip off shit like Starcraft 2
Gabriel Green
It's written by british "people"
Wyatt Rivera
Its fun. 'specially if yous an ork.
Blake Russell
>rip off
>2000 AD
It shared writers, artists and concepts with Judge Dredd. It wasn't a rip off it was deliberately blowing their own stuff out of proportion
Brandon Gray
made by anglos in the UK
Oliver Rivera
>one billion guardsmen sent to their death
>not a single one of them says "fuck you" and shoots the general in the face
Christian Torres
Yeah the necrons even with more personality should still be seeing the imperium alliance stuff as “you get to die later” at best. Tyranids just are too much a unified and dangerous threat to everyone right now, so everyone Allies because of that which leads to that noble dark problem.
Jack Rodriguez
Incel franchise. I can't think of a more embarrassing hobby
Joshua Wood
Agreed, its by biggest concern with 40k going forward.
Luis Morris
>11+ million Red Army killed in WW2
>Not one said 'fuck you' and shot their general in the face
Chase Cox
I envy your ignorance of how horrible some other hobbies are.
Wyatt Ross
lolwut at this thread
William Green
Try being an addict of an autism fetish.
Those people are beyond saving.
Cooper Davis
What's the worst 40k novel created?
Jackson Roberts
idk but I know one of the best.
John Miller
Started as a tongue in cheek parody during the early days of 1st RT and 2nd
Drunk it's own kool aid and took itself super serious during the 3rd-6th era, doubling down on all the absurdity of the 40k universe with a straight face. Book faggotry ballooned in this period, shifting a lot of the lore focus towards main characters rather than factions as a whole.
Now it has become much more light hearted again over the last couple of editions, but not in parody way of 1st and 2nd. Still takes itself seriously, but it's becoming more of a Gothic-SF Marvel, similar to Warhammer's shift over 8th and AoS.
So yeah, it's got a lot of a baggage and universe design it's kind of schizo. Still, it's a lot of fun, especially if you don't take it serious. Datz y Orks a da greenest and da best.
Kevin Adams
Ian Wantson needs to take creative control and press on the gas.
James Murphy
Tell me about your dream 40k vidya user.
Colton Moore
good
Owen Harris
Here's hoping this turns out good.
Brayden Moore
What the fuck
Luke Lewis
Cawl did nothing wrong
Liam Evans
Has anyone noticed the huge amount of trannies in the community of this franchise?
I knew a tranny personally that loved this shit.
But I distance myself from trannies and this franchise.
Noah Ward
>tfw can't find an audiobook mega archive anymore
sad
James Hall
Follow-up to Hired Gun with less jank and a story that's either good or at least as insane as EYE.
Lucas Scott
So many ways to do a fun 40k game and no one can pull it off.
Something immense, i want a game to make you feel completely helpless in this immense galaxy, full fucking grimm, a mix between battlefleet gothic armada and KOTOR
Henry Nelson
Which group are they?
Easton Brown
Death Korps of Krieg top-down shooter and/or FPS.
Also this.
Leo Nguyen
looks like generic Cadian kit, possibly kasrkin
Michael Hall
I think a bioware style RPG where you play as an inquisitor/rogue trader create-a-character would be bretty gud if it was made by people who really understood the setting
Charles Hughes
god I hope it's good
Ryan Adams
i see a heretic
John Gutierrez
>no ork game where you rise to a warboss and lead a waagh across the stars with no man's sky scale planetary exploration
>btfo out of everything or die trying
Jaxson Edwards
it's fucking insane how rich the lore is for the warhammer universe and there's only 1-2 good games for the damn franchise, why are they fucking retards???
Ian Evans
Because they won't make a Great Crusade/Horus Heresy musou
Dominic Sanchez
Because so is Games Workshop.
Christopher Price
bases and omnissiah pilled
Zachary Taylor
man imagine if someone like Rocksteady had made a game or anyone competent, it's so fucking funny how Warcraft was supposed to be a warhammer game but GW denied them the license
they ended up making one of the most succesful franchises with starcraft and warcraft based on warhammer aesthetics, meanwhile GW hands the license over to shitty devs making shitty games
Noah Bailey
It feels so nonsensically tryhard so often
Like Tzeentch, he's the god of trickery, deceit and magic but they also had to go over and beyond making him and omnipotent and all knowing master strategist. Now they wrote themselves into a wall where "oh you thought you won? Well it was accthuwally part of the PLAN!". To the point he just comes off as stupid
Zachary Hill
Greed is what is going to destroy them
Evan Jones
I have literally real experience with 40k but even I can tell it’s not supposed to be taken seriously. It’s hyperbolic like a kid saying they have anti-chuck norie to combat their friend’s chuck noris riding a velociraptor. You’re supposed to embrace how retarded it gets and how inconceivable the world is.
If you can’t get past the absurdity of emperor pooprax using a vibrating toothbrush reverberating through the tortured bodies billions of shrunken lesser beings, which is replaced after every use, then it’s probably not for you
Hudson Nelson
Fuck off Leandros, you petty snitching fuck.
Titus got primaris'd and got an extra service stud, you aint got shit.
Logan James
Primaris Marines are a retarded concept
Ryder Collins
Literally no real*
Chase Torres
One of the few good Warhammer games and the soundtrack is fucking kino.
Jace Myers
GW has always been run by retards, they don't know anything quality if it bit them in the ass. I understand wanting to keep a close eye on your license, but lashing out against people trying to help it flourish is straight up counterintuitive and bad PR (which they're known for, anyway).
Jacob Nguyen
It was alright, lacks replayability and depth though.
Really hope they get to make a follow up
Julian Rivera
>ignored the codex
>killed a shiton of orks
>punched a demon in the face until he got banned back to the warp
Seems to me more like a space wolf aspirant
Christian Roberts
ork boy simulator
lots of customization/career options, leveling up literally makes you bigger and greener
Noah Gonzalez
lol, lmao.
Samuel Taylor
Banjo and Kazooie Nuts and Bolts but with Orks
Thomas Russell
that's what's so funny they were so discriminate about who they gave they're license to, then suddenly started handing it out to fucking nobodies or incompetent fucks over giant AAA developers
Isaiah Hall
>tfw no large-scale space marine PvP game based off battles in the Horus Heresy
youtube.com
yeah I know Eternal Crusade was kind of like that but that game blew dick, give me current Space Marine multiplayer but scaled up to have vehicle combat, bigger maps and 32v32 servers
Justin Stewart
A turn based strategy/real time tactics hybrid game like Total War or Star Wars: Empire at War.
>manage an Imperial sector, Tau sept, Ork empire or Chaos controlled sector like a 4x or grand strategy
>real time naval and ground battles
>if you build a big city on your jungle world then the ground battle should be a city-fight map with tropical trees
>Strategic points (bunkers, a factory, artillery emplacement, a high building) on the real time ground battles (like in Dawn of War or Empire at War) can be captured by infantry, giving a bonus or ability to call down reinforcements from orbit
>Infantry are needed to capture these structures on world, but the scale of battles should be large enough to deploy multiple titans
Samuel Peterson
because they can bully small indie devs into doing things exactly how GW wants whereas AAA devs will tell them to fuck off
Joseph Morgan
They were managed for decades by one retard, I think about 5 years ago they got new leadership and almost immediately wacky things started to happen.
Settings got canned or revamped, new miniature ranges, an explosion of new factions and handing out video game rights like OP hands out candy at a kindergarten
Levi Nelson
baffling how they're so successful with this sort of management
Hudson Miller
Action RPG like YS
Multiple different characters from different factions including mechanicus
Lots of customization
Shit gets desperate and you team up with friendly Eldar, Tau and Orks
Easton Campbell
So in 40k, why do none of the daemons use guns?