It may actually be kind of too much game

>The game EXPECTS you to use tools and mechanics it gives you and advises you use
Yeah, no shit.
>The game EXPECTS you to jump R2 for increased poise damage
B-but I only want to press R1 :( Game too hard.
Y'retarded.

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It's a shit fight and LUCKILY not the final boss of this game. First Elden Lord and Radagon are a lot better

i explored thoroughly and was ready to end the game when i reached the capital
then it carried on with the sewers
then it carried on with the snow zone
then it carried on with the gay whirly dragon zone
then it carried on with the gay capital 2.0
then it carried on with the haligtree and mohg place which i found late
thank fuck for trainers so i could one shot my way through the remaining 20 hours of game and repeating bosses without stress
fuck this game for not respecting my time
i hope it never gets DLC so i don't have to go back and play it again

i hate how defensive eldenfags get over the most minute of critisism with the game like you see here i think elden ring might surpass dark souls 2 for the most annoying fromsoft fanbase

don't think that's true but if it was true she'd be a terribly designed boss you could just staggerlock to death
>then it carried on with the sewers
that was such a boring, needless area
>haligtree
way too many enemies so you couldn't even appreciate the great art and atmosphere of it which was the only good thing

Sounds to me like you really didn't beat the game.
Using cheats to "beat" the game? No, no, no. You just played Disneyland Themepark Adventure. Sad!

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>why is this game so hard?
>I refuse to use mechanics it should be easy
You people are fucking idiots.

This is true. But it doesn't refute that using ash summons is no fun. Therefore, if you are expected to use them to complete the game, the game is no fun.

The game is unironically too big. It takes too long to kit out a new character, you're better off just trying new styles of play in ng+ and ng++ instead of collecting all the shit again

bitches out

She's the best fight in any FromSoft game. Most well designed, most fun, etc.

From Software fanboys hide it better but they are actual honest to God fanatics, not different from Reddit and NeoGAF at its time. See pic for some examples

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No i can definitely say the snow areas are total slogs, burn out has nothing to do with it. Loved Lyndell, loved Farum Azula, loved Haligtree, but fuck the snow areas.

>fuck this game for not respecting my time
The rest of your post makes it apparent it's bait. But yeah, anyone who says this isn't being serious, or perhaps if they do mean it they have something wrong with them (mentally)
Whether you play for 10 hours and then 10 more hours, or 10 sessions of 2 hours, it's 20 hours of content. Manage your time, bros.

i see nothing has changed since 2012

You're retarded. I'm not burnt out for not wanting to do the same copy / pasted catacombs with the same copy / pasted, I'm annoyed because they made double the amount of mini Dungeons than they had the content for.

Consecrated Snowfield DOES suck ass. On top of not having anything new or interesting to offer, the environment is bland & not interesting to traverse.

yea giant corridor with four “legacy” dungeons and zero endgame was too much game

I like the snow area. I like wandering through a snow storm to find the hidden path to the Haligtree. I like trekking up the mountainside to reach the Giant's forge. I never felt either was a slog.

>NOOOOO I WANT TO TWINK AND KILL LEVEL 20 NOOBS
Retard

If by burnt out you mean finally realising the open world shit is pointless then yeah

You admit there’s too much shit in the game and the average person will get burned out.

Consecrated Snowfield was a good zone. You shazamtrannies who didnt actually play the game are confusing it with mountaintops of the giants. Better fix your script.

The game being far richer in content is the sole reason it’s still being talked about. Sekiro, for all its polish, was very soon forgotten, as after a week of playthrough you’re done.

Yes I do but it's too much work for too little satisfaction. Exaggerating my statement with snarky greentext doesn't make it not true.

You be new here, Sekiro got constant threads the year it released, and still does.

>half of the items/weapons in the game are so broken you may as well be cheating when using them
>the other half are so incredibly fucking worthless you may as well just be using your fists

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>the game EXPECTS you to use the ezmode tools,
you don't even get a trophy for a "no summons" run or whatever.
don't criticize a game because you wanted to do a self-imposed challenge on your first run for no reason.

This sentence doesn't make any sense

>2 dungeons
>can't see shit
>meme town with invisiniggers that one shot you
>nothing else

>and still does
i only ever see it brought up in an attempt to shit on elden ring

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This really pisses me off. If you wanna be regular two handed sword guy you are gonna get fucked in the ass.

there's 3 dungeons, a handful of world bosses, quest npcs, the ordina puzzle, a puzzle tower, the entrance to mohgwyn and haligtree, etc. It has nearly as much content as mountaintops despite being 1/3 the size.

Who cares about a fucking achievement I want some fun, the fact of the matter is using summons breaks the AI of the majority of the bosses and turns them into retardedly easy punching bags

She is the only boss you still find exciting after having played the game for way too long beacuse she is the only boss that can still kill you with some bullshit attacks if you're careless. Don't equate that with good game design. Your first encounters with her are absolutely horrible, and everyone has the same "this is bullshit" reaction--because it is. Watch any blind playthrough if you don'tbelieve me.

Her gravity-defying anime attacks come out way too fast and are way too unpredictable to be fair on your first encounters. Some attacks are nearly impossible to not get hit by if you don't abuse pots or other strategies you won't think of or believe are necessary before you analyzed her for a while. The biggest offense is that her animations suck. Her attacks just randomly accelerate midmotion, i.e., she winds up an attack, then the actual attack animation starts but is still slowed down 50%, even though her sword or leg or whatever is already flying, and then it suddenly accelerates to 500% speed. The webm isn't the best example (I think whoever made it just wanted to show her ass), though.

There are a couple of decent bosses in From games. This isn't one of them. All the late story bosses in Elden Ring are better. Dark Souls 3 has better bosses. Almost every Sekiro boss is better, albeit not very comparable.

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>world bosses
HOLY FUCKING HECKARINO IS THAT THE SAME SHITTY FUCKING DEATH RITE BIRD AND MAGMA WYRM?
BEST
AREA

People complain about those areas because they're numerous, monotonous, and may or may not harbor some godly item/weapon or just another piece of jank, compelling you to explore for a reward that isn't worth it through an area and enemies you've already experienced tens of times before. The game is very long but doesn't offer the variety behooving its run time. My two pennies. I still enjoy the game but I agree with the criticisms.

>Maliketh handing me my ass even with the blasphemous claw
>get mimic tear
>beat him in one try
Might as well have fucking cheat codes.

>i.e., she winds up an attack, then the actual attack animation starts but is still slowed down 50%, even though her sword or leg or whatever is already flying, and then it suddenly accelerates to 500% speed.
It's very obvious in this webm. This is actually what gets people hit and what they mean when they wrongly complain about "delayed" attacks, which aren't bad if done right.

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Don't forget 2x copy pasted Night Cavalry :)

If they united both snow areas into one, fewer people would be complaining

But Souls games always had letdown areas, even when they were far smaller

No, it's plenty true. It's not the games fault you're a useless cocksucker and want to get free and easy kills.

People don't get burnt out by the amount of content but the quality of it, the mini dungeons are copy paste garbage with the same enemy types and mobs with health bars, you end up killing the same dragons with the same movesets, but different coloured breath, you end up killing the same erdtrees avatars in multiple different flavours, all of these being the same as enemies from previous games.
Its no wonder people are burned out by the end, there is nothing to hold your attention in those open world zones, the game blows its load in Limgrave and gets more and more repetitive till you are sick.

But it is the game's fault. The problem never existed in previous shorter From games

Actually the only place in the game where you fight two of them.

>She is the only boss you still find exciting after having played the game for way too long beacuse she is the only boss that can still kill you with some bullshit attacks if you're careless.
My first playthrough she was the hardest boss in the game for me. I spent 2 hours before finally killing her. On my second playthrough, she was the easiest endgame boss. I got her on my second try whereas other bosses like Mohg, Maliketh, Godfrey, and Radagon all took a few attempts before killing them. Malenia is a very fast-paced but fair fight once you learn two things; How to consistently survive Waterfowl dance, and how to take advantage of her 0 poise. She's the endgame boss that most resembles another player (except for Gideon). She doesn't have any obnoxiously-timed attacks, and there's very few points in the fight where you're waiting several seconds for an opportunity to attack.

>and everyone has the same "this is bullshit" reaction
A lot of people are of the same opinion as me. She's the most difficult, but she's fair and by far the most fun boss in any FromSoft game.

>Almost every Sekiro boss is better
oh im talking to a coping sekiro/bloodborne shitter. nevermind carry on then.

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No, it's really not. It's not a design flaw that you need to spend more time on set up to shit on retards.

lol what a dweeb

And before someone needlessly embarrasses himself with video game science and autism, we all know how humans really move:
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The motion/velocity is very steady from the moment you start swinging.

>My first playthrough she was the hardest boss in the game for me. I spent 2 hours before finally killing her. On my second playthrough, she was the easiest endgame boss.
That's literally a blatant sign of her being unfair. It's normal for bosses or nearly everything to become easier upon repetition, but it's only with unfair bosses like that where the drop-off is this insanely huge and fights can go from "I needed a day" to piss easy.
>fair
No. A good rule of thumb is that if something is just hard but still fair, there should be at least a couple of hardcore autists who beat it on their first try without knowing anything about that boss. Haven't found a blind playthrough where this is the case yet.

I can play any other souls game, even DS2, for 200 hours and not get burnt out.
length of the game isn't the problem

You're an idiot and coping for being shit.

>yum yum yum give me more fromsoftware cum
is all I hear from this post

I have currently played Elden Ring for 250 hours and I am not burned out. The ironic thing about your statement is that 200 hours of, say, DS2 is four playthroughs - four identical routes through the same content. Conversely, that is 2 playthroughs of Elden Ring, but many people complain that Elden Ring is the one with the repeated content issue.

Is your complaint that there's not enough content, or that the content isn't novel enough. Because your criticism seems to change entirely whenever you get BTFO

i accept your concession

I mean, if I was shit I could have just abused every Elden Ring boss with Hoarfrost Stomp or Barricade Shield since the game was that imbalanced and busted when I finished it. And I'm sure there is still a lot of overpowered shit to this day. The "you just don't like it because you got stuck" thing isn't very effect anymore.

Netcode is shit
Different weapon types have the same attack animations and hitbox types
AI is stupid
Collision detection is bad leading to players who don't move like scaredy cats falling through geometry
Needs more attack variety, combat is extremely shallow

That's a stupid argument, bad content might as well not be content at all

there's almost no content in the zone and what there is is dogshit or rehashed

>there's almost no content in the zone
that's verifiably false though. like i said, it has nearly as much content as mountaintops despite being 1/3 the size.

The ad hominem virgin

accept deez nuts in your mouth

*almost no interesting content that still feels fresh after 50 hours

>b-but other shit zone!

Jump attacks make gameplay look retarded. Just admit you don't like to clash with swords in a cool game

that's the point, I'd rather play a tightly designed well-paced experience 5 times than an excessively bloated one 2 times

>repeated content issue.
It's not a fun game to replay because there is too much bullshit inbetween the parts where you are actually playing the game. Horse riding is not fun or engaging.