"political" is such a dumb buzzword when it comes to game criticism. When you say you hate "Political" stuff in games...

"political" is such a dumb buzzword when it comes to game criticism. When you say you hate "Political" stuff in games, you are only referring to "things I'm oddly intolerant towards"

Gay person exists? Political.
Woman kicks ass? Schrodinger's political, depending on how hot she is.
supporting or main cast contains a singular black person? Political, woke, pozzed. (fucking Xenoblade, which has only ONE darkie in the party is getting this reaction, what in the fuck?!)

The list goes on. Funny thing is, gay people and women kicking ass or being ugly isn't "political", those are just different types of people that you hate for whatever reason. You want to know what "political" is? Shit like Metal Gear Solid, where they talk about literal geopolitical ramifications and history relating to war. It's shit like the Star Wars prequels, where you have literal scenes of politics happening in the senate, where the core story thread follows a democracies transformation towards facism, reflecting the transformation of our vulnerable but caring hero into a twisted and controlling monster.

Triangle Strategy is a political game.
Some stupid shitty flavor of the month mass market appealing ubisoft trash featuring woke characters isn't "political", it's just shit. It's not shit because of the wokism, it's shit because the story/gameplay/ect is shit, because it's design by boardroom committee with no passion outside of hitting quotas. Even if the "wokism" was reversed, it was a design by comittee to feature what you guys want (oh, we need at least 90% whites as characters, 75% of women need big boobs and submissive, ect) it would still be shit because instead of being created with passion and creativity, it's being created as a market tested product to be consumed by a target audience.

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Cats are the niggers of animals.

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>Skincolor matters
new liberals dont get it. Its the narratives stupid. Nobody really cares if its a nigger or if it has tits, futa is something different though
Its the annoying attempt at (((educating))) and moralizing. Metal Gear and Star Wars barely use politics as a frame, not like the new liberal freaks that use politics as a narratival driver

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>Political
Ingame shit done for the sake of real world politics. IE authors adding diversity for bonus points, authors censoring to avoid criticism

>Not political
Fictional worldbuilding politics that colours the plot

Simple as

you are wrong

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Didn't read also you're wrong

>597240894 (Faggot (OP))
>say I hate women and minorities
>nooooo! you can't say that
>say I hate politics, for lack of better PC term
>noooooo you can't say that either!
you fags are never satisfied

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>Gay person exists? Political.
>Woman kicks ass? Schrodinger's political, depending on how hot she is.
>supporting or main cast contains a singular black person? Political, woke, pozzed.

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>reddit spacing

tl;dr

>Leftists: Everything is political
>Also leftists: Everything is not political
Which is it, nigger?

This is correct, and that is how this board was positioning itself in 2014. But somehow, since then, you fags transformed your position into saying it IS the same thing, and whenever a single black character appears it's "Shit,woke,pozzed" now.

Yeah,
>Nobody really cares if its a nigger
bullshit. Xenoblade 3 has every single thread since announcement shitted up by endless fags bitching about the black party member.

>Metal Gear and Star Wars barely use politics as a frame
Are you fucking retarded? In Metal Gear, politics absolutely is the framing. They compare and contrast it to real life history and political events, and constantly directly explain political ramifications of....everything. Like, bringing up and discussing real life political treaties or figures as a core theme of the story, and sometimes even as a catalyst for character development. It would be impossible to remove the politics from Metal Gear without fundamentally removing it, and at least half of it's cutscenes are spent discussing politics or politically adjacent topics.

Star Wars uses light political framing for OT, and HEAVY political framing for the PT. The sequel trilogy is the one with the least politics. I can't believe this even needs to be explained. Star Wars and Metal Gear aren't subtle franchises, how can you not understand this?

cats are notoriously clean and self sufficient

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cats are pests that kill everything in sight for no reason
I could have had hummingbirds and other cool shit roaming around my house and instead I have 3 fucking cats that scream and bleed and fuck non stop
niggers
words can have more than one meaning

>Taking shit posts on here seriously

> cats are pests that kill everything in sight for no reason
Sounds more like a useful exterminator than a pest. The real pest is the rodents and insects your house would be overrun with if it wasn’t for your cat buddies.

So you are just baiting
yeah, macro political frames are better received from more consumers than the focusing on identity political derived constructivist micro politics, deal with it.

Its either subsidies and financing from political ideologues and losing sales while destroying long term growth or focusing on sales and ignoring public subsidies

>leftists are a monolith
This is where you right wingers completely fail and are blind. Just because you fuckers are brain dead sheep that all fall in line to whatever your current thought leader is preaching, doesn't mean the left works the same way.

You idiots love to point to the dumbest and loudest of the left and then characterize them all as being the same as that so that you can easily create an enemy out of all of them. But that's wrong and you will find you have more in common with them than you might think. Case in point: Your narrative is that the left hates sexy women, horny shit, and fanservice and wants it all gone. Yet Left Twitter was horny as fuck for big booba vampire from Resident Evil Village, producing endless fanart and overall being just as obsessive as you fags with your waifus. How do you explain the contradiction in your logic? All lefties hate the same thing, right?

How do you explain that a decent amount of horny fanart/2d porn in the west is drawn by left leaning women or trans people? I mean fuck, nearly all of the Flip Flappers porn in existence, even if you include Japan, is a non-binary person using They/Them pronouns.

I'll repeat it one more time so you understand the point: The left are not a monolith.

this but unironically
/thread

if that's true, then explain the backlash on this board about a black party member existing in Xenoblade 3.

>The rights are the real sheeps
I kek'd

>The real pest is the rodents and insects your house would be overrun with if it wasn’t for your cat buddies.
what run down shithole do you live in where that is a problem?

stop bumping this shit thread you faggots

>Lefty TL;DR meme
>We're not all the same
Probably best that you GTFO because you're only making a fool of yourself at this point mate.

'k

>enter random thread
>"why does the right/left [thing vaguely related to the thread topic]?"
>exit thread and look at the fuming replies later
I do this all the time

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I never see people say the existence of a black or female character is political except for lost redditors strawmanning their absolute hardest.

I wouldn't mind a fag, woman, or nig kicking ass if they didn't constantly scream about being a fag, woman, or nig while doing it. That inherently ties the politics of what they are into the game and their character, if it was ignored it wouldn't cause a knee jerk reaction like it does now. People have been conditioned to expect dumbshit associated with them instead of them being real characters

Yeah, sure, absolutely. You're right.

take a look at any Xenoblade 3 thread my dude. Everyone of them is flooded with replies of people complaining about the black party member.

Look at sales not consumer reactions.
But gaming is and will most likely stay a consumer market with a certain demography being dominant that doesn't reacts well to new liberal politicing; the industry and financiers can try to replace the demographic as much at they like with different tactics, it wont work, the medium has been for the past 60 years dominated by white middle class males, not because it doesnt offer entrances for other demographics, other demographics are simply not interested in gaming

>muh hamfisted idpol
go back

>That inherently ties the politics of what they are
Being black is inherently political?
Black characters are okay, but only if it is easy to ignore that they are black?

Why?

>Look at sales not consumer reactions.
This thread isn't to discuss the state of financial success in regards to this. This thread is to discuss the state of this board, and how "political" has become such a meaningless buzzword tossed around here, that it basically has lost all meaning.

Not this thread again, goddammit.

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>Gay person exists? Political.
>Woman kicks ass? Schrodinger's political, depending on how hot she is.
>supporting or main cast contains a singular black person? Political, woke, pozzed. (fucking Xenoblade, which has only ONE darkie in the party is getting this reaction, what in the fuck?!)

you are ignoring the context.

if you're making a movie about a tribe of hunter gatherers, and you make any of them white, or all of them white, it's going to be considered political, because in real life, no hunter gatherers are white. similarly, if you make a movie about Napoleon starring Michael B Jordan, it's political because Napoleon wasn't African.

>women kicking ass or being ugly isn't "political"

if it is a movie about women's MMA, it's not political because women do kick ass in women's MMA. if it's a movie about women beating up men, it's more political because generally doesn't happen in real life.

same with a movie or game or fictional scene about a white guy being a beta oaf. but if every single ad on TV and every single TV show and every single movie depicts every single white men as being betas and oafs and weak and stupid and beaten up by women and need their morals corrected by black people, that's clearly political because that doesn't happen in real life.

If this is some kind of focus group regarding niggers in xenoblade; don't feed the trolls don't try to sell gamers Identity politics. Trying to trigger your market base to get free advertising is a bad idea in this industry

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>Being black is inherently political?
Read. Being a nig isn't inherently political, constantly bringing attention to the fact you're a nig is. Imagine if a white person did this. There is no reason to do that unless you have a statement to make, which 100% of the time is tied to the real world equivalent, that's political in nature. It's amplified worse because this becomes their only defining trait as a character, the fact they are a nig. There are plenty of games that tackle racism with dark skinned characters and don't make it the only defining thing about them. The politics becomes the character

ironic

At last, the rare non-retard 4channer

>movie depicts every single white men as being betas and oafs and weak and stupid and beaten up by women and need their morals corrected by black people

Name 1. Just one. I don't believe an example of this exists.

>if it's a movie about women beating up men, it's more political because generally doesn't happen in real life.

Okay, generally in real life a scrappy white guy isn't going to win a fist fight against half a dozen jacked mercenaries, but Nathan Drake does it all of the time. But Nathan losing to a single black woman is too much to believe in anymore. That is too much because that generally doesn't happen in real life, even though nearly everything Nathan Drake does is incredible and doesn't generally happen in real life either.

How does this extend to more "anime" shit? A 15 year old boy and can toss hands and beat up trained adults and military on the regular, but him getting his shit kicked in by a similarly powerful and superpowered woman is too far for believably?

The black party member in Xenoblade doesn't do this. He just happens to be black and fags on this board are having meltdowns over it.

>"political" is such a dumb buzzword when it comes to game criticism. When you say you hate "Political" stuff in games, you are only referring to "things I'm oddly intolerant towards"

youre wrong

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>>Gay person exists? Political
I have no problem if it's something secondary and it's not forced upon me or doesn't prevent me from more content like fucking Judy in CP2077 as male V
>>Woman kicks ass? Schrodinger's political, depending on how hot she is.
I have literally no problem with this as long as it makes sense. For example even if Lara Croft and Bayonetta were ugly I would have a problem with this, but I wouldn't like them as I do.
>>supporting or main cast contains a singular black person? Political, woke, pozzed
Depends on the setting, I have no problem with blacks for example in star wars as long as there's no race mixing, but in a European setting albeit fictitious like Greedfall should be illegal to put niggers into it.

You ignorant fuck. Context is everything.

Faggot OP wouldn't have made this thread if it was actually the right forcing their ideals on people instead of the far left.

>I don't want to play as a tranny
>B-but what about METAL GEAR SOLID?
2 different types of political, we should come up with a different word for the first one like globohomo or something

>The black party member in Xenoblade doesn't do this. He just happens to be black and fags on this board are having meltdowns over it.
Games not even out yet, you don't know if he's an allegory or not. I doubt he will be but still, the reaction isn't unfounded. They're having a meltdown because that's what modern western games do with nig characters + the recent bending of the knee of big jap corps like Capcom or Squareenix listening to the people who want that shit

I just call it twitter pandering.

>Yet Left Twitter was horny as fuck for big booba vampire from Resident Evil Village, producing endless fanart and overall being just as obsessive as you fags with your waifus. How do you explain the contradiction in your logic? All lefties hate the same thing, right?
thats public politics vs private affairs and you sound retarded

I wish for a return to actual diversity, like the 90's and 2000's. Shit was obviously shoehorned then sometimes, but there was that spark of coolness.
Nobody should or did complain about Jolee in KOTOR, or Barrett from FF7.
But, just off the top of the domepiece, the fucking nigger guy from Mafia 3 was obviously a boardroom choice, plus the stupid fucking KKK part.

Can you list 3 or more games where you actually play as a tranny? This feels a lot like a boogeyman that doesn't actually exist.

The latter is what has been considered politics until the 1960s and is known today as macro politics, the former is materialistic and constructivistic micro politics

>all characters are ugly and unlikable? political
>game tries to appeal to everyone and ends up being bland and shit? political
>story is full of surface analogies to our world? political
>you can get permanently banned for saying a word? political
>company spends money on shit like diversity positions instead of just trying to make the game good? political

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Based thread, based OP, gamergate fags are super anoying rn, but its cuz they know they are losing power. Even around me, a lot of incels are getting out of the Peterson-Shabibo bubble. Better days are around the corner

Corporate sponsored faggotry is lame and that's all there it is to it, when developers and publishers stop thinking they're making some grand statement and "fighting racism" by putting black chick on cover art of AAA game then people will stop reacting as if it didn't reek of a clique desperate for validation on childrens toys for who knows what reason.

yet you guys always screencap twitter as proof of "politics" or political intent, even as far back as gamergate. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either twitter is fair game as an example, or it isn't.

This is a good post and you are correct
Literal retards unable to read anything longer than 2 sentences

>story is full of surface politic analogies to our world? political
wow bro, blew my mind

Only smart statement in this thread

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The most retared thing about rightoids is the "too political" argument. As if any peace of art that is created can be apolitical. It just shows how fucking limited their understanding of world is. I hope you get out the dark place you are at tho, i was there too.

Came to see Yea Forumstard explode at this post and it has not disappointed.

Politics is down stream from culture

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its so hilarious how fucked people are when it comes to being a centrist
i dont enjoy getting ass fucked by gov cock 24/7 or consuming media like im strapped down in some clockwork orange shit and somehow im the worst of it all?
get the fuck out lol

nah bro, the right is so used to not having to eat the cake, they dont even understad what you mean

I dont mind politics in games. I dont like liberals.

I was kept from seeing the cake by the algorithm. But now that I see it... helluva cake.

i hate anglo politics, kill yourself burgeroid and shove your identity jew politics up your asshole faggot nigger

>oy vey why don't want your historical WW2 game to revolve around niggers and american politics!!

Get out of your mom's basement lmao. FGC is ruled by black people. RTS ruled by Koreans. Can't even log into GoW if you don't speak Spanish. Every FTP game is 50% Brazillian. I mean god damn man the list goes on.

im sorry man, but your made up "this is what i rly mean when i say braindead shit online" meme is not the own you think it is, it just proves how stupid the statement is in the first place