*changes game from 6v6 to 5v5*

>there is no official price point announced yet.
>OW1 owners get all OW2 pvp as free update
>pve wont be released until winter/holidays at the earliest
>again, no official price point has been announced yet.

I still won't play your game.

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>being a gacha goblin
Opinion discarded

the esports fags even celebrated when they've removed 2 perfectly fine maps because it wasn't "fair" in competitive mode

but you don't have to pay for it if you own Overwatch 1 already

>if you already have OW1, the pvp content is free
>OW1 will no longer be for sale.
>if somebody buys OW2, they get the whole game, just like everyone that bought OW1
>buying OW2 will also include pve content.
>if OW1 owners want to play the pve content, they will have to buy OW2, but it is unknown if they can buy it at a reduced price.
>there is no official price announcement yet in any capacity.

this is not a defense. these are simple facts. however, if you think removing a product for sale and replacing it with the same product, but updated recipe/content is a "jewish cash grab", then you're retarded. its no different than dominos pizza changing their recipe and still charging you for ordering pizza. you have no argument.

Overwatch 2 doesn't cost money op

What's an "Overwatch"?

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lol and thats fine. if you wouldnt enjoy it, i wouldnt want you on my team anyway. im not trying to sell anyone on the game, im just stating facts and illustrating that OP is a fucking retard trying to spread misinformation to drum up negative sensationalism.

>playing this
No thanks

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PVE mode will cost money, what are you on about you retarded blizzdrones

>pvp has zero meaningful changes
>costs zero dollars

>PvE has ???
>costs ???

Good thread

what's the problem? just looks like average british person

Is it shit?

>5v5
Why? Having a shit teammate in quick play was already ruinous, now just having a mediocre teammate can get you crushed.
The solution was always to change team composition, not to remove a player. If the tank and healer meta is too strong the DPS are clearly not doing enough damage. If having two tanks and two healers is making the game a slog change the mandatory composition to 1 tank, 1 healer, and 4 DPS

>zero meaningful changes
>removing a tank slot
>reducing the amount of cc/stun abilities massively
>introducing a new game mode
>introducing a new hero
>introducing new maps
>zero meaningful changes

it really carries the same baseless hate and misinformation as shazamtrannies for elden ring, dont you think? makes you wonder if this is their new obsession, or if this is just the absolute state of Yea Forums.

>1 tank, 1 healer, and 4 DPS
sounds retarded, whichever healer dies first loses the fight for his team

Which of those isn't something they would ordinarily do in a normal patch?

who the fuck would buy the pve mode!?

Everyone I've met at my workplace is going to buy it the moment it releases, they literally didn't need to fucking change ANYTHING people would've still bought it regardless

Blizzard is well know for not making games worse with updates after all just look at what reforged

Better than having so much sustain that the DPS are not needed. In the current setup there's just 1 tank, making your point the exact same. In fact in competitive play losing 1 player was already a lost engagement, it's the primary reason why the meta moved towards as much protection as possible

changing the game from 6v6 to 5v5 effectively changes the game from MOBA to FPS

Consider a hypothetical for me. What if the PvE, if you can imagine this, is good?

How many team based PvE games are actually good other than Left 4 Dead and Vermintide

i would enjoy it if it was rolled back to how it was when ow1 released and for a few months afterwards.
i played the shit out of overwatch. it was fun. but then they removed fun so why bother.

How? Most FPS games have multiplayer matches well above 10 players. It's now just extreme sweat mode MOBA. It's still going to be the same gameplay but with less room for error

The online PvP is literally free. How do people manage to complain about a free update?

The pay is only for PvE content. If you don’t care about PvE then you don’t have to give Blizzard anything.

Arma, Rainbow Six

pve in overwatch, good? fuck no! you have to be a mongoloid to think that!

this refutes nothing and contributes nothing. what was the point of your post? just to cry about blizzard's past mistakes? yes, we know already. and ow2 will probably be another one. and?

Retards like you are why companies like EA and Blizzard still exist to keep raping the vidya industry. You never ever learn.

Don’t care, the pve events in OW1 were fun.

they didnt remove fun. people got better at playing the game. they figured out efficient ways to play the game. people also got way more salty and toxic after that too, because if you werent playing perfectly, you were playing wrong and are therefor garbage. you can still no-limits. you can still qp-classic. they removed nothing. you're just a sad, salty baby bitch, lol.

Blizzdrones have more battered wife syndrome than Johnny Depp.

It does cost money unless you are a glue eater who already bought the game years ago. This isn't exactly a new game

and what exactly did i not learn? enlighten me.

That Blizzard is a dogshit company which no longer has the talent or drive to create games like the ones which made you respect them in the first place. And they never will again. You keep giving these incompetent faggots second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth changes. "Oh they listened this time!" "Oh they're gonna get it right this time, I know it!" Fuck off and get a clue you fucking tumor.

If the most efficient way to play you game is a boring tankfest shield fiesta that nobody wants to play or watch at any non-potato, there’s a much deeper issue with you game.

They're already going to do that by forcing OW1 players to play 5v5 with OW2 players. I'm more interested to see how they are going to monetize OW2 with how they are handling OW1 remain
"events"

>People want lore and PvE for years
>Refuse to only putting money into a artificial E-Spert
>Any lore changes came at the expense of the character by making them a fag or unrelatable
>Now no one cares and your playerbase is extremely low and only coomers keep the idea of your game alive
>Could just make a patch and call it Overwatch 2.0 but you got greedy and make another game to milk blizzdrones
>Didn't expect the WoW and Diablo divisions to rape and embarrass the whole company to a point you get sold to microshit
>Now your only real selling point to the game is a negro potato from canada

You made a big oopsie and now have to live with it.

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>>Could just make a patch and call it Overwatch 2.0 but you got greedy and make another game to milk blizzdrones
They are literally doing that for OW2. You just have to buy the PvE and I don't think that will be ready on launch cause they need to rush out 5v5 for their shitty Esports crap.

will you have sex with me instead?

please point out where i denied any of that, or where im giving them chances. oh, because im calling out misinformation with simple facts? because facts are getting in the way of angry shitposting? you're pathetic. if you dont like something, just ignore it. is blizzard dogshit? yes! have they lost their touch? yes! will OW2 be uninspired dreck? most likely! but pointing out that OP is an even bigger faggot for lying doesnt change that. smear campaigns out of malice are pathetic. use facts. if you cant use facts, theres nothing to smear and YOU'RE the tumor, not blizzard. grow up. be a man.

like a book

Im really annoying that they're messing with my favorite character.

Also the 5v5 things sounds retarded. Wtf are they thinking.

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the only reason its "OW2, redefining what a sequel is" instead of just "OW2.0", is entirely because they made a promise that OW would never have paid dlc. now, to avoid false advertising claims, they have to call it a "sequel" and have to "redefine what a sequel IS" in order to side step that issue, despite it literally just being a free update and paid dlc.

i think blizzard cultists would buy literally anything they put out

that is because they want it to have 3 dps, one tank and one support, overwatch 1 proved they cant balance for shit and both thanks and supports did better damage and had more survivability and utility than dps.

gay game for trannies

I'm sorry, I'm a white male.
Would love to play your game, but I'm not feeling at all welcome.

Trannies aren't even welcomed yet. They haven't released a trans hero while Apex already has a non-binary character.

>game with high level gameplay I care about
>devs dont care about esports, only cater to the worst casuals
>game I enjoy as a casual
>devs cater to esports for years, creating nothing and ruining the casual fun in the process

>if you think removing a product for sale and replacing it with the same product, but updated recipe/content is a "jewish cash grab", then you're retarded
You're the retarded, it's a glorified patch that will for sure cost full price
They could have go extra jewish by making the new customer paid for the old game but if I remember correctly, Overwatch 1 is already free because everybody jumped ship long time ago because drama/it's shit/whatever
So yes, Overwatch "2" is an advance jewish tactic to sell a fucking patchnote to the old and braindead playerbase and creating a new wave of hype to sell their shit game to new customers
And worst of all, this patch is adding content while cutting content
This is not up to debate

>It's free to remove 2 slots
Wow amazing.

no one actually plays overwatch
im convinced OW2 is just a pack of 3d models for porn

lmao it literally costs OW1 players nothing for pvp content, and they are forced to update to it when it releases. the only cost for OW2 is the pve content, or if you dont own either version. this has long been confirmed. its really sad if you cant comprehend that. take your meds.
OW1 is not currently free, and the base version (not the one with extra skins) is $20. when OW2 releases, you will no longer be able to buy OW1. you will have to buy pvp game WITH the pve dlc bundled if you do not already own any version of overwatch.
>adding content while cutting content
yes, a lot of long running live service games have done this. this isnt new.

also, again, price is completely unknown.

>Overwatch 1
Support/Tank: 2min queue
DPS: 8min queue
>*changes game from 6v6 to 5v5*
Support: 2min queue
Tank/DPS: 8min queue

Bravo Blizzard!