Now that the dust has settled, pvp SL meta is 120

For me its 80 the perfect middleweight level before the cancer sets in.

no one cares you freakish troon

125 for tryhard duels
150 for unfun invasions

50-80 is the real fun.

150 is retarded cause you can effectively have RL 200+ with all the various stat boosting talismans and gear not to mention rune arcs and physik. But if you wanna to deal with that DS2 every build is good at everything and has 100poise bullshit theres nothing stopping you. Might as well go 99 in all stats at the point because everyone will be at or near the soft caps in atleast 3 damage stats and have 60 vigor and passive hyperarmor, enjoy!

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its fucking dead already lol

Twinking in Stormveil is so fucking fun.

Stormveil is fun no matter what.

based. 150copers will seethe but 120 is the meta endgame bracket

I ran into so many dual naginata fags that just two shot poke you the one time i tried playing in fight clubs with a humble greatsword

>greatsword
as in Helphen's Steeple of the greatsword class and not the colossal greatsword Greastsword also

Care to share your build?

You get more RoBtards at 120, you get more bullgoats at 150, pick your poison
Everybody knows the actual fun happens

The invasion fun is over. Dunking shitters summoning to get through Stormveil with a level 40 character decked with frenzy gear and a winged scythe was the real gold rush. The normies have moved on, the fields are barren.

so you can post about it on youtube for views. hard pass, aiden

reddit is, correct
maybe you should return?
the biggest difference in duel quality is just summoning yourself

>giving a shit about pvp in a PVE game.
Couldve just said you were a faggot in fewer words

imagine not playing a caster at 124

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80 is fun but I missed out on invading lower than 70. Really want to make some low level alts to have a blast with.

I just feel like at level 80 my character has a solid chunk of investment in what he's meant to do with plenty left over to dabble in some side interests. The only thing now that I want is more endurance so I don't have to use weight band charms.

Doesn't take long at all to invade at this level for a good 60% of the entire world map

>150
You didn't beat the game.

The PvP is hot trash in this game. No covenant system, invasions are buggy garbage with shit netcode. I already quit. Thanks for the 200 hours of fun though.

covenants wouldn't fix it
just do two changes & invasions become way better

>can invade rune arc'd solo hosts
>host with summons can get 2 invaders without taunting

Still no clue what the best weapon upgrade levels are for each area or RL.

I'm RL50 and still using +8 regular weapons. I barely do damage but I don't want to overshoot it. Any pointers?

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This is what I play as. Probably not optimized, used to carry more stuff but narrowed it down to these two weapons and like the stamina.
I have 12 flasks at +10, 18 pots, 8 perfume bottles w/o setting foot in Leyndell or challenging really any bosses. Only killed Godrick & Rennala for the third talisman pouch.
Boiled crab is essential. Flask has strength boosting and max stamina boosting tears.
Fire pots or volcano pots are very useful, but spark aromatics are the real deal. They melt people at this level, w/ the perfume talisman, and I'm not even specced for their dex scaling. They're a pain to farm mats for however, so because of that alongside them being kind of OP I hold off on using them unless its a true gank, my enemy is being annoying, or I want to break a stalemate with a surprise.

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I know, right?
>tfw running up to people and launching them off the cliff

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Status effects are pure cancer. Last night I was using the taunter's tongue as a solo host and got invaded by a fag that used the repeater crossbow with sleep bolts and then giant hunted me when I got stunned.

Where even are you?

this. my lvl 70 frenzy invasion character is so fuckiing fun and usually wins against most ganks. anything above 120 and all builds can just turn into one shot attacks of varying types and is way less forgiving.

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>Sleep bolts
I didn't know these existed. Time to roll up a new Inescapable Frenzy build

simply look at the stones in your area
a lot of people in liurna will be at least +8 so you can pretty safely go +10 to +12

Souls PC servers are not going to be restored. This is the company that unlisted PTDE on steam to sell copies of the remaster.

Fucking around in Liurnia.

Yeah that makes sense.

I have tried both, I prefer 150. A lot of weapons are quality/faith or quality/int and cannot be infused, theyre kind of useless at 120 because you dont have enough points for them

There is no meta, thats how dead in the ground pvp is in elden ring.
Told you lol.

let me guess, you want it to do more damage than a "normal" weapon while having as much health & access to spells due to the int/fth

i get summoned in literally 1 second, what are you talking about homo

youtu.be/GR2TM6HStl4
There's fun builds that are good against cancer builds now.

Try invading and not summoning, pve is healthy as always.

>souls pvp
lmao
lol
rofl

lvl 30 pvp is where it's at

Yeah, if your definition of "fun" is gank squads armed to the teeth with endgame gear.

More like do 'as much' damage as a normal weapon, while still suffering from split damage.

im talking about dueling dumbass
and i get constant invasions if im not overleveled

Nope, I just want fun duels. A huge swath of the late game weapons being off the table in realistic settings is not amounting in fun duels.

I play a Fundamentalist caster + wrath of gold/elden stars. im tired of running into bleed builds.

you gotta invade the right areas for your level, of course you wouldnt know this since you dont play the game

Dueling is still fine, its just the pvp that is dead (invasions). All the tryhards were all bark in the end.
Living in a post-retaliation world is good.

>A huge swath of the late game weapons being off the table in realistic settings
name some examples

they usually have higher AR which balances it out

There's casters all over 120 retard

all over is maybe a bit much
I'd say maybe like 1/8-1/10

Most of the faith based weapons unless they favor str. Using the GOG puts me a good 30 rl worth of real stats used in combat compared to someone not going with a faith build. I don't like having to turn my paladin into a glass canon viglet to keep up with damage that I'll still miss with compared to a rob.

I've been seeing opposite, I'm getting co invaders pretty regularly lately, that's never happened really.

There aren't lol. There are dark moon greatsword faggots with a staff offhand for if you get too close and dodge the adula's.

Idk man, double staffs seems really popular right now. Especially when stars of ruin is free damage.

Magic just doesn't show up at 125 like it does at 150.

it literally doesn't matter. you can wear 80+ poise armor while midrolling at level 90-100 and still have 50 vigor and enough damage to 1 shot people with 2k hp. the only thing you lose out on is weapon variety

"meta level" doesn't mean shit when 90% of pvp in both duels and invasions is all about spamming weapon skills that 1-2 shot you at any level regardless of stat investment because they scale mostly with weapon upgrades and not stats. and the other 10% of pvp is still using bleed weapons with overpowered roll catches like dual spears, dual curved swords, or heavy thrusting swords

Everyone thinks abdulas is trash now, I haven't seen it often since 1.04 Greatswords are whatever, if they actually have a weapon it's usually moonveil or something with bhs

Why wouldn't it? With flask you can be a bullgoats fast flip mage, with max cast speed

You're still acting like there's a meta. Who is everyone? We don't care what your discord thinks about the game dude.

You could, and you'd be wasting your time against the guy not japing about. I'm sure you have tons of webms to show me how I'm wrong.

is it me or is the mlgs sorely overrated in this game? the skill is slow as fuck

Anyone who used it before vs after. You know, post nerf, retard

And how do you have this info? Remember, there is no meta.

Darkmoon greatsword is harder to make work at 120 than pure caster.
Obviously it's more popular because it's famous, but it's almost strictly worse than just dual wielding staves and saving the physical stat points. Take the 20 points out of str/dex and stick them into int and Slicer will deal as much damage as a MLGS hit with 70% faster swings.

golden order greatsword is pretty much pure faith for scaling, being E/D/B

at base stats & 60 fth it has 751 AR
80 str heavy iron greatsword has 724 AR
after flat reductions you'll maybe do like 10-15% less damage but to offset that you have 60fth

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Disappointed there's no Old Monk equivalent, hopefully the DLC has it

Not "japing"about depends more on the player than build. I'm just saying there's a shit ton of mages on 120 you fuckers can deny it all you want.

There is no meta because everyone that would comprise the meta is on Yea Forums begging people to instill a meta. Its a hilarious catch 22. Normies just disconnect and don't care.

you just see more mages because pure str or pure dex builds are unplayable in 150 because they get almost nothing from the additional levels
>b-but you can just get 40 endurance!

its a good pve weapon.

Because you are invading a small pool of people, mostly gankers using the tongue, it will be dead as shit soon because the fraction of the playerbase is co-oping in the open world, it will die faster than Bloodborne once people are done with the game.

Very cool, a rob user will be doing more damage than me for less investment in all aspects (he won't have to sacrifice stat points like vig or mind to pump his stats for his weapon). Thats the problem for me.

is there any weapon that isn’t a good pve weapon?

What site is this?

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If you repeat yourself it doesn't make it less true
>people can bhs through scarlet rot procs
>it's faster than running
>infinite I frames
Throw two bleed spears on it that's meta. Some people just suck no matter what.

Most hammers. they just don't have reach and lack the speed of knives to make up for it.
Why the fuck wasn't that kunai the vulgar militia use a weapon you could get?

souls pvp hasn't been good since ds2

what's te point in casting with 60 faith? you don't even get 300 incant scaling
if you wanna be a caster either go 80 faith or play fth/arc

Only mono stat liurnia duelists suggest 125 should be meta, go away you fun hating neckbeard.

>plays hybrid
>wants advantages of hybrid
>doesn't want disadvantages of hybrid
???

so why don't you use an iron greatsword
is it perhaps because the weapon art of the unique weapon is good?
or is it perhaps because casting gives your build extra value?

You shouldn't get to hybrid for free, retard, that just kills pure builds.