ELDEN RING LORE THREAD

>GOG
>better than DMGS

OH
IM
LAFFIN

>throw away my wifes wedding gift
Are you insane? I'd throw out literally everything but that. I only use two other weapons besides it anyways.

>he can't dual wield them both

Some 'chaos' shit at the lowest level of the game waiting to be discovered

>Misbegotten Crusader, Misbegotten Warriors, and Leonine Misbegotten all have red hair
>All Fire Giants also have red hair
>Radagon and his kids also had red hair
Hmm..
>Every giant is red of hair, and Radagon was said to have despised his own red locks. Perhaps that was a curse of their kind.
Hmmm....
>"The misbegotten are held to be a punishment for making contact with the Crucible"
Hmmmm.....
>the Golden Order Greatsword, which was bestowed to Radagon by Rennala, is found in the hands of some random Misbegotten
Bros, what's the connection between Radagon, Giants, and the Misbegotten? Do they all have connections to the Crucible?

Whats the connection between the redhaired misbegotten and radagon? Furthermore those are called leonine (lionlike) so it also draws a connection to the lion as the regent beast (serosh)

Where the redhaired beings and the beasts born directly from the crucible?

I specced into this and it’s way worse than just having 70 int and using two magic weapons

I love using this thing.

i think youre overthinking it

Schizo theory:
Chaos flame ending leads to Dark souls, the first flame is what's left after Chaos bruns down the universe

>Holy GS at literally the end of the game, with all of the remaining bosses having high holy resistant
>normal basic bitch moveset
>Skill so ridiculously slow it's impossible to use against anything not braindead
>winning
lmoa

So Godwyn is Nito?

He tasked the Misbegotten Crusader into converting the other misbegotten to the Golden Order.

What are the lore implications of morgott knowing how to use bloodflame? His swords weapon art is very clearly bloodflame

he seems to have cooperated with his brother more than we know about

Damn....MITSUBISHI-SAN, I KNEEEEEEEEEL

Marika, planning to rebel against the Greater Will, "banished" her husband Godfrey and his army of Tarnished. She hoped that they'd get stronger outside the Lands Between, to later come back and assist her in bringing down the GW.
Later, when the GW found out about Marika's betrayal, Radagon, devoted to the golden order, was commanded, or perhaps controlled, by the GW to leave his wife Rennala for Marika. Somehow Radagon made a complete takeover of Marika's body and power, but disguised it as marriage.
Why exactly he got rid of the sword is probably never going to be known, but it's quite likely in order to forget about his love for Rennala - whether to more easily leave his wife of his own volition, or for the GW to more easily keep him under control.

Marika is Radagon

Maybe after they became one person it was Marika who threw the sword away, that fits her personality and rejection of the golden order.

>Somehow Radagon made a complete takeover of Marika's body and power, but disguised it as marriage
No he didn't
>O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me, thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us both be shattered, mine other half

In the Fia ending he does become literally Nito, first of the dead, so it is possible.

You misunderstood the lore at its foundation and it led you down some weird paths.

It's likely that red haired creatures either stem from the crucible, or they're related to giants.
I see three possible reasons for red-haired misbegottens' power:
A. They gain power from a legendary weapon they find, which turns their hair red because red is equal to power in the crucible.
B. They have absorbed power from a giant, perhaps by eating one. It's not unusual to see misbegotten eating corpses, after all.
C. They are blessed by giants, or perhaps offspring - half misbegotten, half giant, hybrids.
It's unlikely that Radagon has gained power by possessing a legendary weapon, so I don't think A is very likely for the misbegotten either.
It's not impossible, but Radagon might have eaten a giant at some point, but I think that's unlikely too. Even if misbegotten gain power by eating other creatures, it'd be strange if a regular human(?) gained power by doing the same.
All in all, I believe C is the most likely option; Radagon, Red-haired misbegotten, as well as Radagon's red wolves, are all likely blessed by giants, the power of giants, or offspring of giants.

What is wrong with the Elden Ring and the Golden Order?

Its controlling people's lives.

literally nothing

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How?

>Immediate seething about Ranni
Rent free

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They weren't necessarily always, if ever, one and the same. The quote sounds like Marika's speaking to Radagon as they are fused.
>Thou'rt yet to become me, thou'rt yet to become a god.
At this point, Radagon has managed to fuse with Marika's body, but she is still partly in control and has yet to surrender her godly powers to him.
How so? The only controversial point I'm making is that Radagon wasn't always Marika, and there's no proof that he wasn't. It makes a lot more sense that they weren't always the same. Once Radagon achieved godhood by fusing with Marika, his and Rennala's children became demigods. If he was already Marika, then why were they not demigods to begin with?

Bloodflame is caused by the curse of Omen; Morgott uses it once wounded, Mogh embraces it.

>The quote sounds like Marika's speaking to Radagon as they are fused
Nigger really? Read again, she's saying that they're going to be shattered, that happened while she was shattering the ring

Reminder that it is through the powers of Regression that we definitively learn Radagon is Marika. If Radagon regressing is a return to Marika then he must have been originally born of her.

where is that quote from?

Melina

Trapping them in a cycle of rebirth they might not want to be part of anymore.
Creating a system of reality that is a trap for its own benefit, no real option to opt out aside from cosmic fuckery.
Organized pogroms initiated if you decide to resist.

It's incomplete. Gods are trying to impose their will on the thing by removing parts that don't suit them, and as a result the order is flawed by its absence.

Maybe Marika "made" Radagon by interacting with the crucible and thus the the Radagon personality considers itself impure

According to turtle pope the person who made the statue knew about the secret. It's more likely that the statue was first made to look like Marika and then the sculptor had to fix it.

>Let us both be shattered, mine other half
"Be shattered" here can mean a lot of things, but split-up does not seem likely. It sounds more like "let us both be killed". It's very possible that the one keeping Marika and Radagon locked up in the Rune Shard is Marika herself, keeping Radagon there so that someone can come and kill them.
>If Radagon regressing is a return to Marika then he must have been originally born of her.
That's not necessarily true. If Radagon has taken over Marika, then regression, "a return to a former or less developed state", can definitely be Marika's body before Radagon's takeover.

What's wrong with rebirth? I've seen people claim that the greater will is a parasite, but how does that even work? Do people lose anything by being rebirthed?
Also do you maybe remember what items talked about rebirth through erdtree?

Are you stupid? The spells only changes the hidden statue, and what's more the statue is of him as King-Consort, not when he was regular champion. Furthermore, Rennala has the same statue which implies he had one sent to her as well which probably could be regressed so she could learn the truth of what happened to him which she probably never thought to do but still.

>use law of regression infront of misbegotten crusader
>MISBEGOTTEN CRUSADER IS RADAGON text appear
>full moon greatsword appears
what the fuck

>but split-up does not seem likely
Never said it did, but point is, Radagon didn't take over Marika completely and shattering the ring was a way to avoid it

>"Be shattered" here can mean a lot of things, but split-up does not seem likely. It sounds more like "let us both be killed". It's very possible that the one keeping Marika and Radagon locked up in the Rune Shard is Marika herself, keeping Radagon there so that someone can come and kill them.
The ring is literally held inside of the vessel. When Marika talks about Radagon becoming her and being shattered, she's talking about fusing so they can shatter the ring together. Why did they have to fuse for this? Who knows, but that's what it implies.

All of them are connected through that curse mentioned in the whip's description, most likely. But who cursed them all?

>Are you stupid?
>Radagon sent Rennala a statue in the hope she would use a Golden Order fundamentalist incantation on it
Are you? Fucking retard.

Ohh, right. I didn't mean "as they were fusing", I get what you mean now. As you say, the quote happening as the ring is shattered makes sense.

It's an int incant and its the only other place you find that statue to my knowledge. Of course she was a mindbroken mess but it looks like he tried.

>If Radagon has taken over Marika
He hasn't. Are you high? If Radagon took her over she wouldn't have been able to shatter the ring, or call tarnished back, or do anything else she did.

Radagon may never have been able to fully take over Marika, unless perhaps at the very end when the Tarnished comes to end them. Nevertheless, it's still possible that Radagon has actively been trying to take her over until then.

he was much happier in his first marriage

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We know Marika was locked away in the tree when she shattered the ring. The Fingers and Enia tell us this on our first meeting and that's how we find her at the start of the cutscene. The GW lets her down and sends Radagon out because he's still loyal to them and willing to defend the ring while he tries to repair it. Marika was pierced with something while crucified that actually reminds me of the spear the giant corpses all have in their gut.

that's because Marika is a top tier Stacy and QUEEN

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she looks like she fucks omens and misbegottens

He literally dumped her and only married her because winning the war was being too difficult

she looks like she fucks tarnished

A) The first thing at the entrance to that cave is a dead dragon. That just changes the question to "why did the dragons have it," but at least some dragons are known to have relations with Leyndell royalty, though usually the ancient kind, whereas the corpse is a regular 2-legged dragon.
B) Magma Wyrm Theodrix is just down the path- there's very little info on him besides that he was a "great warrior" on the wiki page. Maybe he had the sword, killed the dragon in that cave and then, with it's heart, finally became a Wyrm and thus discarded his old human-sized weapon.
C) Godrick, when scooping up any artifacts he could find while fleeing Leyndell (according to the mimic veil description) took this sword and stored it Castle Morne, which was part of his domain. When the Misbegotten uprising happened, some of them took the blade and went elsewhere.
D) We see plenty of Misbegotten on the outskirts of Leyndell, looting the remains of carriages which often hold powerful weapons. Maybe this was just the best thing they managed to steal, so they took it further north to keep it safe.

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>love doesn't exist even in fantasy >:(
incelbro plz

>The GW lets her down
Is that a fact? What I'm saying is that I believe it's possible that Marika is the one holding them there like that.
>Marika was pierced with something while crucified that actually reminds me of the spear the giant corpses all have in their gut.
I've heard Marika killed the giants, so that could mean she pierced herself in addition to the crucifying, perhaps to further seal Radagon from escaping, or maybe it was how the ring was shattered.
Could also be the GW trying to free Radagon, or Radagon himself trying to escape Marika's crucifixion.