Echoes of Mana just released, boyos! I know it's a gacha and most assuredly going to be shit, but for those starved for more Mana/Seiken Densetsu content, I figured I'd make a thread for people to be aware it just dropped and to talk about it.
Whose your party going to be made up of? I'm going Pipes Sierra for some Legend of Mana love.
I mean, it's got every main character from Secret and Trials of Mana, so you've got some selection. And Adventures if you like their lineup. Plenty of humans, if you don't count Kevin. Not even based Duran, Riesz or Angela?
Owen Peterson
>shilling gacha
Asher Johnson
Square Enix does NOT have enough goodwill nor roster volume to sustain a Seiken Densetsu gacha. Maybe make a few more fucking console games before cashing in dumbasses. If not even the Star ocean franchise could sustain a gacha, the mana series gacha absolutely will fail even before a year.
Jaxon Robinson
How's the gameplay?
William Cooper
I'm starved for mana, would never sell my soul for gatcha
Aaron Parker
I miss when Sindoll didn't exclusively take commissions from westoids constantly requesting NTR cuck shit.
Jackson Adams
Even if I did play this, I'd probably exclusively roll for Angela forever.
Thomas Baker
I'm not telling you to spend money on it; in fact I strongly encourage anyone to not reward shitty consumer practices like gacha. I've just loved the mana series since Final Fantasy Adventure and Secret of Mana and the idea of mixing the heroes up is fun.
This is very true, unfortunately. Especially with going out of their way to scorn PC players with the Epic exclusive shit. I just want to talk Mana.
The battles are similar to Trials with the big warning red marks on the ground telling your ass to move, but I can't tell you as I'm still in the intro. I wasn't sure how many people would give it a chance.
Does it have controller support like the mobile version of Adventures of Mana does?
Juan Jackson
if you were gonna play a gacha why would you even touch this png collector bullshit from a company that hates their fans and money so much, instead of genshin impact? really
If I cant play as Escad and beat the shit out of delusional Dana users then its worthless.
John Martin
>censorship impact why would you touch that either
Tyler King
Escad did everything wrong. Daena's only wish was to try and stop the fighting and to help her big sister. The other 3 were enormous fuckheads that couldn't stop being retarded. Irwin for his power, Escad for his revenge and honor (He's the one that attacked Daena, twice, instead of trying to work together), and Matilda for being the literal biggest fuckup and terrible friend in the entire series.
By the end of the path, Daena understands how pointless it is to try and get him to give back her energy and just lays him out, which could have been with Escad if he wasn't such a meathead.
I'm excited for the upcoming Legend of Mana anime and I'm going to do a second run of the HD remaster, this time using a guide to avoid missing half the content like I did in the first run.
Isaiah Fisher
because it's an exceptional game
Kayden Ramirez
Kill yourself furnigger
Robert Rodriguez
All gacha RPGs are terrible. It doesn't matter if they're action RPGs or straight up PNG collections. In a genre about customizing your stats and party, tying that to a literal gamble ensures the entire experience is fucked. The game is either too easy to compensate for people not always having the best units, or based entirely around the best units to wall people into rolling the gacha. And with the live service model you're guaranteed to power creep your way further and further toward the latter.
Benjamin Barnes
I'm not the one talking about Sindoll you fucking illiterate.
Daniel Gomez
More pics of anthro girl plz
Jason Reed
Reroll guide or I dont install.
Liam Lee
genshin impact isn't meant to be challenging anyway, it's an action rpg man. it's about exploring really
Ethan Nguyen
oh and btw the "power creep" is zero the best units are still 3 release units, 1 of which has been given away free 4 times, the other 2. one of them is permanently available to every account.
Blake White
>Hey boomers, remember these characters from your childhood?! Well now you can spend money on them in our new lazy gacha game!
And you idiots eat it up like "hehe, I like it when the flashy anime characters make big numbers appear on the screen". Words cannot express how much you people disgust me.
Jose Richardson
>Escad for his revenge >Literally got sent to the Underworld and had to claw his way out because of Irwins faggotry >Surprised he's upset that when he comes back from that shit, Irwin's still up to his shit, sends fucking demons disguised as temple guards to kidnap Matilda and how one of her closest guards is also talking about giving Matilda over to him He had no reason whatsoever to trust Daena and from his point of view, doing so would be practically asking to be back-stabbed and set to the shadow realm again. Matilda could of defused all of it if she just told the two of them to calm the fuck down work together but his caution and want to get rid of Irwin was justified regardless of who you choose because he fucking summons the world ending dragon anyway.
They could probably pump up the roster by adding notable NPCs into the playable category. But that might actually be sort of cool so I doubt it.
Austin Garcia
It's pretty convenient that you left out the fact that Genshin gatekeeps a lot of its "difficult content" by essentially forcing you to use specific types of characters. The horrible gacha rates are just the cherry on top. Don't defend Genshin, it just makes you look like an addicted idiot praising a greed chink company for being "oh so generous" for literally nothing. Nobody praises shitty dlc practices by saying "Oh, well, uh, you can just not buy it though"
Thing is: gacha players never care about criticism. Because they're literally "just turn your brain off, bro" tier.
Levi Lee
Whats the point of gacha if the cast isnt female only with lots of porn potential?
Justin Morris
Thats the one by WFS right? Seeing their work on AE and HBR, I'm willing to give this a try. Any rerolling needed?
Asher Harris
>boyos! Faggot.
Noah Bennett
Japs already have a list The first banner that they force you to roll on is unlimited so you can guarantee Charlotte.
Carson Hughes
based
Gavin Long
>mana gacha
Kek this dies in 5 months right?
Easton Lewis
>banners >gacha >please spend money on us for characters you don't even like >Didn't get the character you wanted, so sowwy. Try again. >cookie cutter enemy placements >fucking MOBILE I would give it a chance if it was released on every console under the sun, PC not included because of bluestacks.
This sounds like one of those gachas that EoS after 1 year.
Tyler Foster
God i hate you gacha subhumans
Lincoln Jenkins
Post Charlotte
Hudson Phillips
I had forgotten about whole being sent to Mavolia bit, so his ire against Irwin is justified. For some reason I only think of the bit when they're children and he "fails" to protect Matilda. He's definitely right to cut down the faeries and other familiars of Irwin, though. Still, at least we can agree that Matilda is the fucking worst.
Jason Diaz
I wasn't even aware there was a trailer, thanks. I wish they had shown some animation, but at least the characters look vibrant and true to their source; not to mention covering the more story-heavy arc of the game. Should be great. Can't wait to see how they handle Black Pearl and Alexandra's relationship with Florina, along with all the romanticism with the Jumi.
Play through tutorial, go to title screen, press the button on the bottom right and delete user data. You can now skip the tutorial and just do your rolls.
Aiden Bennett
Alright, I've played a bit into it. The game starts up with you and Hawk in prison and you end up fighting Zable Fahr as a turotial as Sacrifice Part 3 plays. Then after a bunch of exposition with the Mana Goddess, she gives you a sheep. Gameplay is kind of like a Golden Axe style game, or a 2D Trials of Mana where you need to dodge shit all the time while building up specials.
It has the usual fare for missions in gachas like not dying for extra rewards and such. I did two x10 rolls which you can do after the first mission, ended up getting Durag and Pipes from Legend of Mana, Randi, Purim 2x and Popoi 2x from Secret of Mana and Sumo the protag from Adventures 2x. 0 Trials characters, but getting every main character from 1 through Legend besides Trial seems pretty generous, or I'm just lucky. As I said, I only did the first battle mission, so I have no idea how generous it is with currency.
The hub is in a town that's similar to Domina from LoM and the item system seems confusing as fuck, with cards you equip that are moments from the game and coins that you can trade for Dryad and Lumina coins or some such.
It actually doesn't seem like too bad of a game outside the clusterfuck that is the items and menus, because I was having a hard time figuring out what was going on. At least I got Pipes.
>preregistered >predownloaded >not going to play it Enjoy your gacha
Evan Flores
Can we talk about Trials of Mana here? Which is harder, Expert or No Future? I'm preparing for them by playing through all the characters and getting their chain abilities.
There actually better be a scene of Hero fucking gutting Sandra for all the shit she does. I was so mad I was cucked out of killing the bitch myself in the game.
William Price
>gacha and anime Well, this can't be worse than SE's previous "series revival", right?