FF7 REeeee make FLop

Tonight, V - we take a detailed look as to why FF7 Remake failed and why there is no point to get excited to any future releases for this franchise. But seriously, just want went wrong?

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It was alright. Not GOTY or anything but it was.. something.

If it wasn't marketed as a remake then I wouldn't complain. It should've been called FF7 Reunion instead.

Nomura retarded fanfiction game.
One of the most disappointing games ever

I love this game. Intergrade is even better. Never played the original FF VII. I’m posting from my phone.

The first rule of remakes is to go in never expecting its going to compare to the original its based on. If anything popular media has taught is that nearly all productions ruin the IP

well you know the game was in dire straights when a few years ago on Yea Forums they wouldn't stop making threads of the girls and defending the game with oh how sexy tifa was.

Then we had that stupid senate meme that got pushed out of proportion. They managed to pay Hana Bunny to pin a cosplay tweet. Now that's desperation.

that's the only way to like this game is to go in without playing the original. but its too expensive for PC for such a sup par product.

> Hana Bunny
sorry wat?

To summarize you fucking Fox news troll: it wasn't a remake, it was a retcon.
^ this desu

It didnt fail it was great

It went of rails after the first hour or so. Didn't like the time ghosts, didn't like the rpg questing running about for people who are going to die under a plate anyway

Because they only released it on playstation and epic fail store.

why are /qa/ rejects making VIIR threads

A pin tweet. Considering her history, she was obviously paid. She only does popular characters that are recommended via her pateron.

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I wouldn't say great. If anything was great it was the divide it caused. Square spent a small fortune in marketing attempting to defend this game.

Do you think that Areith or Tifa will die in the game if you plan on playing it?
(I'm not, the game is total shit) But im curious.

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Jesus, here we fucking go yet again. Every ff7 thread is subject.

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FOR THE 10000TH TIME: THE CHANGES WERE DONE BY KITASE, NOT NOMURA. HOLY FUCK I AM SO DONE ARGUING WITH LOW IQ RETARDS ON THIS WEBSITE WITH BRAINS HARD AS ROCK LITERALLY INCAPABLE OF DEVELOPING NEURON WIRING OR MEMORIES, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS TO THE MOON AND BACK. NOTHING IN FF7R is "NOMURA FANFICTION". ALL OF THE ORIGINAL DEVS WORKED ON FF7R. IT IS THE BEST FINAL FANTASY IN 20 YEARS. NOMURA DOESNT EVEN LIKE KINGDOM HEARTS AS A GENRE, HES MENTIONED AS MUCH IN VERSUS XIII INTERVIEWS. NOMURA WAS ALSO THE REASON WHY AERITH DIES IN THE ORIGINAL FF7. THATS RIGHT THE ORIGINAL FF7 IS NOMURA """FANFICTION""", AS ARE THE CHARACTERS WHICH HE DREW DESIGNED AND CREATED. FUCK OFF YOU RETARDED BITCH, TAKE A SHOTGUN SHELL TO THE BACK OF THE THROAT AND LEAVE THE MORTAL COIL YOU MENTALLY RETARDED WASTE OF OXYGEN.

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Issues with the game:
> Stuck in Midgar for 80 hrs
> Weird KH based battle system
> Goofy anime talking bullshit
> Redesigns: Tifa looked horrible
> Jessie was annoying as fuck
> Areith was over dosing on the 'super cute' shit
> Materia growth system

These were my primary gripes. It wasn't all bad but i have no desire to play it again.

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once time travel is involved it doesn't matter. Story could take a left turn like Bioshock Infinte and have the game end with 20 Areiths and Zacks ready to drown cloud to end the cycle or some shit. ZZZZZzzzz

It was good enough, I don't think it's better than the original because for one the original is the complete experience and your first playthrough of it will be far more memorable. Remake did a good job blowing certain scenes of the original up in an exciting way, and I thought the gameplay was a clever way to modernize the gameplay of the original while keeping soul of the original in tact. Since its only one part though you don't get nearly as much of the gameplay all around though. People who don't like the original or won't give it a chance because of the graphics or gameplay are complete philistines in my eyes though, and that's the only reason I could imagine someone would whole heartedly prefer the remake.
Also agree with It shouldn't have been marketed as a remake, since they completely changed the core plot. The ending bit felt like I was playing fucking kingdom hearts as well, and I'm really sick of the crossover nonsense between these two franchises. KH fags generally don't give a shit about FF and I don't give a shit about KH. Why they keep trying to bridge these series thematically and spiritually I don't fucking understand. Square is really in complete hack territory with this type of shit. Still, it was enjoyable enough and I really did have fun playing it. Soundtrack isn't as memorable or as good as the original though it isn't bad.

> not news
twitter is filled to the brim running over with advertisements and message pushing. just like Amuoranth got a spot pushing some sports drink on her twitter.

Failure as in not living up to fans' expectations? Or as a financial failure?

I felt like it was too late. When was that ps3 tech demo? By the time it came out the hype was gone. Younger generations had no interest and older ones who played the original cried about it not being faithful.

I enjoyed it. Low 8/10 at its best.

Wrong fag.
Nomura...
Directed
Approved
Outsourced
Designed
and did a media tour in japan for this shit.
Its HIS mess

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>> Stuck in Midgar for 80 hrs
The game is 40 hours and the length of your average standalone JRPG. Not a criticism
>> Weird KH based battle system
Its literally the best RTwP combat system ever created and is NOTHING like Kingdom hearts. The combat system perfectly combined action with turn based and practically nobody criticised it except for the camera
>> Goofy anime talking bullshit
The characters were better written and characterised than any other game in the compilation, and were far more human and relatable than your average Tales of game and their weeb trope characters.
>> Redesigns: Tifa looked horrible
There was no fucking difference, the original Tifa was like 10 polygons
>> Jessie was annoying as fuck
You have dogshit taste
>> Areith was over dosing on the 'super cute' shit
What? FF7R is the first time since the OG where Aerith isn't all cutesy 24/7. What are you talking about?
>> Materia growth system
Which was great and faithful to the original

Did you even play the fucking game?

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I'm on the fence also. it was good in some ways and fucking horrible in others. I cant recommend it though.

Its not a mess Barry. Its the best FF game in 20 fucking years. Its leagues better than your dogshit hold 0 to win FFXV you cumguzzling homo. And KITASE wanted the changes. This is confirmed.

When is it coming to steam? IS it coming to steam?!?

alot of things are wrong with this. The old devs from ff7 said that Nomura called all the shots. I cant find the interview now but i know its out there.

Who knows. If it doesn't I'll just never play it. Square is so lazy with PC ports anyway. Kh3 is still epic exclusive for some dumb reason.

> Materia growth
alot of the features they ripped from either FFX or fucking.. uh... Dragons age.

this looks yummy

Got it as a gift
modded the game
???
profit

Nomura is a fraud.

You know what... you're probably right. They'll do a cop out "the universe resets with bunnies and rainbows"

>I cant find the interview now but i know its out there.
Because its total BULLSHIT and is rubbish you've fucking made up to validate your Nomura hateboner. Guess who is one of the Old Devs from FF7? Nomura. Guess who else is? Kitase. Guess who wanted Barret and co. to die during the parachute scene in the OG FF7? Kitase. Guess who is a massive fan of the new Evangelion movies? Kitase. Guess who IN A SOURCEABLE INTERVIEW, WAS PUSHING FOR ALL THE CHANGES IN FF7 REMAKE - KITASE. NOT NOMURA YOU FUCKING RETARD. KITASE.


FF7R WAS NOT NOMURA'S HOSTAGE PROJECT, IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT BY THE ORIGINAL FF7 DEVELOPERS. AND FOR THE RECORD, IT IS THE BEST GAME SQUARE HAS PRODUCED SINCE FFX. NOW FUCK OFF RETARD.

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In the time it took Square Enix to remake just the first 4 hours of Final Fantasy 7 MonolithSoft made:
Xenoblade Chronicles
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 + Torna
Xenoblade Chronicles DE (an actual full length enhanced remake with Future Connected as an extra add on)

All of which were complete and full length JRPGs with a typical world spanning amount of content. No partial releases or episodic releases except maybe Torna but it was a expansion pack of the sort that doesn't exist anymore.
Now Xenoblade Chronicles 3 will be released with no sign of SE even getting up to Kalm let alone the end of disc one.

What is wrong with the Final Fantasy team? It seems like they still get all the resources like they did when the original 7 pulled staff away from Xenogears and left it an incomplete masterpiece. Yet they can only deliver a small part of a single game in all that time.
Even within SE the Dragon Quest team had no problems delivering a complete and full length game on a smaller budget and other teams at SE have managed to deliver great faithful remakes of games like Trials of Mana.

>NOMURA BAD
>Why?
>....NOMURA IS A FRAUD >:(

You're a joke. A complete fucking joke. Nomura and his games have been the only things worth touching out of the shitfire of a company Square has been over the past 20 years. Notice you shit on nomura but conveniently ignore the MOUNTAIN OF TRASH PRODUCED by practically EVERY OTHER SQUARE DIRECTOR. Kill yourself Barry you FAGGOT.

Wrong on almost everything
>The game is 40 hours and the length of your average standalone JRPG. Not a criticism
no, the game has so much padding you could drill for days and still be only a inch in. Terrible

> Its literally the best RTwP combat system ever created and is NOTHING like Kingdom hearts. The combat system perfectly combined action with turn based and practically nobody criticised it except for the camera
KH clone

>The characters were better written and characterised than any other game in the compilation, and were far more human and relatable than your average Tales of game and their weeb trope characters.
no it was anime writing, like naturo

>You have dogshit taste
Jessie was a terrible edition, she didn't know when to close her mouth and be a back ground character.

>Which was great and faithful to the original
..no

>Did you even play the fucking game?
you obviously didn't

>5 million sales in 4 months
>flop

Barry, you need to get over it

Id say it was a a failure on both of those fronts. Financial it didn't meet goals and it divided the fan base. I visited the Square Enix shop just before the pandemic got off and there was no ff7 remake shit around anywhere. on dispaly or anything else. Just the original game. Makes you think

>All of which were complete and full length JRPGs with a typical world spanning amount of content
Lol

You wish it was coming to steam. Square needed to recoup losses so went to the platform on life support. EPIC and was given a pay day.

> best game
lawl.

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I think it's biggest problems is it's trying too hard to stick to the original story when it's played it's hand way too hard in the first act. If you want to do a reminagining it'd be better for it to either start off a bit more subtle instead of dumping the time jannies and time travel Sephiroth this early or just go full fucking force and stop being half-baked.

>V
Go back then fucking kill yourself

>Dude why did this copypaste MMO game with reused ps2 assets and barebones enemies or mechanics develop so much quicker than a next gen ARPG built from the ground up with an engine swap mid development

Gee I wonder why you fucking brainlet

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Nomura is a fraud. Did we forget the disaster that was KH3? The guy is related to someone high up. He would have been fired by now. There's a reason he isn't directing the next game.

>IT IS THE BEST FINAL FANTASY IN 20 YEARS.
No. God, no. Time jannies will never not be stupid as fuck. Shadowbringers and Endwalker were the best the franchise had seen in twenty years.

But you are right, it was Kitase who ruined FFVII. This franchise really needed Sakaguchi for the longest time. It was so clear he was the tard wrangler at Square. But at least there's Yoshida now.

I would play it if it wasn't 70 fucking dollars

Modding is what led me to purchase the game on PC. And after a while not even mods can save a rather shit game.

> TIFA WAS CENSORED
that is all.

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Yeah alright, retarded baitposter who never even played the game lol. Jump off your Ego onto your IQ and die from the endless descent.

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Alright faggots since I don't like how the remake is going I'm deciding to give the OG version a try on the PS1. Anything I need to know or do before I get too far in?

>Tifa looked horrible

In what way?

Japan doesn't even talk about FF7 remake. Like it was swept under the rug. 5 million? or 5 million shipped? If you are the same person from every other KH thread - you're bullshitting by default.

she was wearing enough extra clothing to open up a store in your local mall. If you can't see it being an issue, you're apart of the problem.

So why kill off Jessie specifically if you're going to do plot rewrite shit? Is it cause she absolutely mogs Tifa and Areith in the remake?

It was said. i'm not making it up user. may have to dig for it but like i said before. this is nomura's fuck up.

Bunny-chan is a skank lol.

>>> Jessie was annoying as fuck
To be fair most of the cast was annoying as fuck. They walked a line of attempting to be an edge fest or be anime UwU. If there was a mute button barret, jessie, areith would have been the first to go. Wedge is just enough to get on your nervs without being the follow along fat guy who has no friends.

There was some soul put into the game in places but over all it was a repetitive mess. And good god sweet jesus, the dragging on and on and on in Hojo's lab. What the crap was that all about?

is that a real mod??? Tell me its a real mod and sauce. SAUCE.

Hey, playing FF6 for the first time. Am I supposed to think Terra is a good person? Cause she just melted two people and seems to have bonded with some suspicious magic bullshit.

The milf titties we need, but don't deserve.

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Face it, a competent team could have created a complete faithful remake of Final Fantasy 7 on budget years ago.

that's what gets me also user. If this was the big ff7 remake peole bitched and moaned about for 20 years and more, this quality could have been done first or second year PS3. Easy. Voice acting and mo cap included.

cope

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Baitposter? Sorry what now?

I would recommend it just because I think it's fun and good enough to be an enjoyable game. But I really can't understand why they would go ahead and did what they did. People have been asking for a remake for years because it could benefit from it, and they market it as one, and deliver something else. Who asked for that? Why change something that's pretty much considered a masterpiece in video games? It's almost arrogant as fuck for them to do this. I can't imagine everyone involved was on board with the route, but of course it's japan so we'll probably never know the details because of their retarded secrecy with this sort of thing. I'll give them a chance with the follow ups and see what their grand vision is but honestly first impressions of it come off as mostly fanservice, which is even more lame. If the point of all this is to get us thinking about the idea of remakes in general in a sort of meta-commentary then it could be cool in the end I suppose. Though it all just reads to me as shit that's already been done before, ripping shit from other games, and fanservice. So they really think this is better than the original game? This is what I mean by arrogance. Then look at the once great Square outsourcing to team ninja, it almost makes me sick. I'm still excited for XVI though, retard that I am.

Why Tucker?

try to do the midgar speed run skip lol. have fun with that math puzzle.

>IT IS THE BEST GAME SQUARE HAS PRODUCED SINCE FFX. NOW FUCK OFF RETARD.
That's not saying a whole lot.

No one needs to cope with the marid of sweeping changes that are being put in place. That tells the story.

>playing a game for the first time
>telling an user to skip the first part of the game

cause he's a cuck

Sauce: nexus mods user. Just search FF7 remake and Tifa.

No. Just enjoy.

Oh so there's no fan translation or bugfix patches I should put on or anything like that? Pure PS1 is fine?

Its not a fun game once the paint washes away and you realize what you're playing. We've seen this same formula before with square enxix modern titles. So after waiting forever this is the best they could come up with? It's a slap in the face. Especially after cock teasing it for so long.

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