Everyone talks about Fate, but not many people talk about Tsukihime...

Everyone talks about Fate, but not many people talk about Tsukihime. Is it a hidden gem or something your better off skipping?

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its better

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It's okay
Read Hollow Ataraxia, now that is the one who doesn't get the attention it deserves.

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It's pretty bad for you i guess, you would have had to be there back in the day but give it a try maybe you'll like it. It just didn't age well.

it's pretty mediocre but the fighting game is good

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Nobody talks about Tsukihime because it's old, doesn't have an anime and the remake is not available in english. So the best discussions you can have about old Type-Moon is actually Melty Blood. Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya and other stuff from that time is all original and oldfag territory and you won't see much of it anymore on Yea Forums outside of sporadic threads that archive at like 40 posts at best.

Noel is numero uno

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I don't think I'd call it hidden if someone is familiar with VNs at all, but I think it's great. Make sure to get the extra fan disk thing to read afterwards, I can't remember its name.

Got Pilk?

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I love them all

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>BTFOs tsukihime

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It's a fucking doujin title that only had a limited run. Of course it doesn't get nearly as much exposure as Fate, which had an actual retail release. The original Half Moon version of Tsukihime was released on floppy disks at a convention, whereas Fate/stay night was released not just on PC at retail, but PS2, PSVita and smartphones and got multiple animated adaptations. While Tsukihime did get an extraordinary amount of exposure for a doujin title, it was still a doujin title and thus did not get significant exposure for the longest time. The only retail titles released that were related with it were Melty Blood, and even then it only got a couple short arcade runs as well as releases on PS2. The PS2 version of Actress Again eventually did get released on Steam several years after it its launch, that was a bit too late.

People always keep forgetting what Tsukihime actually was. A huge bulk of its distribution was basically just piracy, but even that didn't get massive distribution simply because the series lacks prominent advertisement and most people, particularly in the west, prefer to watch anime anyway. Because the Tsukihime anime was A) fairly obscure and B) generally had a poor reputation, most people haven't watched it. There's the manga which actually does have a degree of acclaim, but manga tend to get less exposure than anime as well.

If you need any proof that ironic weebs have completely dominated the Japanese gaming sphere, look no further at all of the classic Visual Novels which are completely and utterly ignored by fans of that same series. The amount of people who swear up and down that Steins;Gate and Clannad are the peaks of the medium, while disregarding the actual technological achievement that was YU-NO, is simply appalling. Why on Earth did Danganronpa become one of the de facto "must-play" VNs over in the West when shlock like Umineko, Root Letter and even Jisei blow it out of the water? The fact that Nekopara and Tokimeki Memorial both have equal sales figures is strong evidence that the genre is completely dead, at least in the West, and the piss-poor attempts over the years to port over sound novels, otome sims and dojin titles is just icing on top of the shit cake.

Tsukihime is a drop in the bucket. It is still almost impossible to properly get into Muv-Luv or Dokyuusei or Sakura Wars or even fucking Fate without risking an aneurysm, or spending years to learn an obviously deprecated language. Meanwhile, console games continue to appropriate VN presentation styles, not to advance the medium, but to waste people's time. And you can most certainly thank ironic weebs for this trend.

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Anyone got the Neco meme where she js handing a dude a bomb or a gun? Can't remember but it was cute

>while disregarding the actual technological achievement that was YU-NO, is simply appalling
Please Explain. This sounds interesting.

It's because of exposure. Most people aren't actually aren't on the lookout for more VNs to read, they just read the ones they find out about and intrigues them enough to try. Because most of these titles are fairly old and obscure and get almost no advertisement whatsoever, a lot of people never find out about them.

Danganronpa also came out a few years into a minor boom in casual mystery games spearheaded by the Phoenix Wright series. Root Letter barely even got any real advertisement anywhere ever and most people don't know it exists. You can't experience a game that you've never fucking even heard about.

Too old but exceptional for a doujin VN for the time. The manga was a better version of the Arc route and remake is a much better version of the Arc and Ciel routes but it isn't fully translated yet.

Tsukihime > Tsukhime remake

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Tsukihime sold over 100,000 copies which was at its time the best sales for any doujin release ever.

This one?

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Nah but I like that one too

Found it

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If you enjoyed FSN you'll probably also enjoy Tsukihime, KT, and Hollow Ataraxia. Also Mahoyo if you speak Japanese or can wait a few months. Simple as

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100,000 isn't actually that much in the grand scheme of things. Even if it was the "best sales for any doujin release ever" at the time, that's all it was. You can't expect Random American weeb #298795 or Random European Weeb #4892-B to know it exists. Look up any FGO vid and I guarantee you most of these people don't even know what Tsukihime or Kara no Kyoukai are. Fact is the most exposure a ton of people have to Type-Moon outside of Japan (and even in Japan) is from FGO and any shows that might have been released in the last 6 to 7 years. Many of them are not even aware of the DEEN show, and if they are, haven't watched it.

>didn't age well
How so?

>hidden

>There's a bomb mail pipe in ur box
What did she mean by this?

It is not a hidden gem, it is one of the most famous and genre define visual novels out there. It is a doujinshi (self-published), so it does not have all the frills from mainstream visual novels, but it compensates with its story and world building.

I extremely recommend playing it or the remake. Just have in mind that it's a product of its time, but I find it a must-read any way.

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What is your opinion on this man

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It's good but imo not as remarkable as fsn. Also you need to take into account that 99% of fate "fans" are animeonlies and tsukihime didn't get as lucky in that regard.

nobody cares about 30 year old technical achievements.
If your game was actually marginally better then people would care.
Nobody is gonna play a 30 year old coom game because its "peak fiction" when they can play a new one and talk about it with their friends.
Its not like having a bunch of insufferable retards reading old shit is gonna improve anything so you shouldn't care to begin with.

Everything you just said is minor compared to the real reason fate got big: the deen adaptation. That is literally all it comes down to.

skip all nasu shit, the porn is better

its the Cave Story of Visual Novels

And this is why people don't talk about Tsukihime.

Also, if you are playing it, I suggest switching the original soundtrack with the Ever After version, they are basically an updated version of those tracks.

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I want to see if he can keep this cocky smirk against crazy Arc.

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I mean, it's been talked out. Everyone's already been there, done that, been a melty baby.
Beyond the game itself, the real thing that had people intrigued before was the mystery and lore surrounding other things in the universe like the DAs. It was fun to talk about and imagine and explore. Nowadays nu-moon lays everything out in front of you in a Saber-faced kids meal plate.

Those were all hooks for the sequel and I guess type moon doesn't even pretend to be actively working on anything anymore so they no longer need sequel hooks.

fpbp I don't care about the rest

Hollow Ataraxia is just a worse Kagetsu Tohya.

Superior Nanaya.

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I loved all his scenes in Tsuki and Kagetsu

bananaya?

I would very much prefer Tsukihime 2 than the remake, but I am also hopeless, they are just too slow. All this time and even the remake is not finished yet.

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dangerously based

The legend.

It is absurd that a company clogged with gacha money like type-moon had the nerve to not only not translate the remake to English, but also not release it for fucking PC.
Japs are unreal with how out of touch they are with their foreign public, it is like they hate money, or are so prideful that they just don't care at all with anything beyond their island.

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Best melty theme.
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I don't think TM proper gives a shit about a foreignl audience at least. The stuff associated with them that gets ported around is handled by third parties like french-bread, sony, and marv/acksys

Mahoyo is getting an English release, maybe Tsukihime Remake will get one after. Nasu said he wanted to release it on steam with multiple language options (JP, EN, Trad Chinese) sometime in the future.

No, it's the other way around.
Kagetsu Tohya is genuinely worse than Hollow Ataraxia
Kagetsu Tohya
>Doesn't let you choose the events as their own, have to go a series of certain choices to see what stuff you have missed
>Only way to know you have an event you haven't seen is being unable to skip it
Hollow Ataraxia
>Have some sort of map that lets you choose what events to go at a certain time and day
>Tells you if an event you haven't seen by telling you it's "new"
And there's also the fact Hollow Ataraxia have some fun minigames, If Tsukihime could get a remake, then so can Kagetsu Tohya, where they put Hanafuda for Tsukihime cast
>Tsukihime 2
That's Melty Blood, if that doesn't count then that's Kagetsu Tohya

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Tsukihime remake probably saw very little of the FGO gacha money when only BLACK and the sole programmer at TM games was working on the remake for years.

Not quite.

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>, they are just too slow
They just don't want to write vns anymore. It's a miracle the remake even came out.

Kagetsu Tohya is shit and tedious. KT can lock you out of optional shit like the Len H-scene if you don't get to certain events before getting certain flags and saving is bugged where if you save and reload it will revert to the amount of flags you had from when you saved or completely reset it.

No type moon vn has ever been localized. Not Tsukihime, not F/SN, nothing. It's crazy to think about that F/SN never got localized while shit like the urobutcher loli guro vn did, but it's true. Even the entirety of WTC eventually got localized.

>but not many people talk about Tsukihime
And nobody will now since Neco Arc became a huge fucking meme. Tsukihime thread will forever be full of shitposters thanks to this retarded character.

Fate is shit, Tsukihime is decent

>Muv-Luv Trilogy got an English an official English release
>Science Adventure series got an English an official English release
>When They Cry Series, which are longer than Type-Moon VNs, got an English an official English release
>None of Type-Moon VNs got an official release
What goes on in this gook's mind?
>Mahoyo is getting an English release
Did they say when the is release date?

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