SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S SO MUCH UNPRECEDENTED FAGGOTRY IN PVP!

souls PvP has always been casual stupid fun. best not to take it so serious. try finding chads that do boxing gloves only.

this is some low quality bait
you’re trying way too much, buddy

PVP in elden ring comes down to the following

-using mobs and and environment, the way invasions were meant to be played
-duels with meta tryhard faggots who have no skills at fighting games so they pick the lowest hanging fruit
-ganksquads camping fire waiting for invaders

that's it really. the first option is fun if you do it at lower levels because high level pvp is fucking aids, just getting blasted in every direction from some gay ass bullshit l2 spam.

Yes, we are about skill.
Learn to win against the faggots with 10 buffs, win against the magic spammers, deal with poison and catch the faggot.
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This is that you're supposed to do. Now git gud.

"Why dont dark souls pvper play fighting games????"
Because fighting games are not RPGs with pvp.
If you're so good at fighting games, winning in dark souls and Elden ring will be no problem for you, zero skill faggot.

Fpbp. He's right. It's always been gay as fuck and full of hackers, and people abusing broken builds, and even glitches. You'll never get your wish the only enjoyment you'll get is by beating the people abusing shit. Also I guarantee instead of getting better it gets way worse down the line. ER hasn't been out long enough for the full extent of the possible cancer to reveal itself.

i have been good at literally every dark souls game’s pvp and i have never used meta or overpowered weapons. the pvp is fair by design. git gud loser

Good fucking riddance mate.

Lmao no it's not your full of shit. Say that to a murky blade user in das3 or someone abusing the automatic crossbow shit.

It's not even close to fair, but it isn't so broken that you can't overcome a lot of the disadvantages you can put yourself at by using experience and skill

Elden Ring is the Modern Warfare 2 of action games. When so much is broken, nothing is broken.

Dueltards are all fighting game rejects. There is zero argument against this.

Then win against them, fighting game champ

i had a kd of 15 with a black knight halberd in ds3, you are just very bad at the game

Not murky blade! I cant equip a caestus and press l2!

Win? Win what? I only invade.

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I love how broken the pvp in elden ring is.

>just sits back spamming magic

You have a sprint and roll button.
A bunch of magic can be evaded by just side-sprinting.
You have magic parring shields/ashes.

If a dedicated mages rape you in a 1v1, you are just garbage at the game.

>I've never played a Souls game before.
that's your problem nigger, it will only get worse as the other user said. Enjoy it while you can.

>I screamed at the top of my lungs at him in the mic after winning

just play a fighting game, clearly you want a duel but you are getting cheese instead

>hurr durr I troll u
That's basically the pvp in souls games in a nutshell. What the fuck did you expect? Just turn online off. PvP will never be good in any fromshit game.

Based. Limgrave or lurnia?

Nah, the only shit PvP was Demon's and DS1 because of instant backstabs and infinite stunlocks.
Things massively changed after DS2, that's why both DS3 and ER adopted most gameplay rules from DS2.

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Nah, I just use a Claymore, Onyx Blade or MLGS.
Almost never used straight swords.

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It's your job as a player to not buy games you don't like and if you did buy, to stop playing.

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>the fight itself isn’t honorable if they don’t do the exact tactics I want
okay lmao

You are a lying piece of shit. Buffs, magic, and all added effects need to be removed from 1v1 duals. You shouldn't be allowed to use flasks either. Get the fuck out of my thread

Kill yourself 3rd world scum.

Duels where you summon a red phantom to 1v1 have the unwritten "no chug" rule because phantoms only have half the estus of the host, so it would be unfair.

They were adopted from how the DS2 arenas worked where estus was disabled.
It was also did like this because it dragged out duels too much where someone would just run and chug for 5 minutes and if you didn't have a weapon with a poke running attack, it became hard to catch them.

>build is based on buffing
>NOT ALLOEED REEEEE

There aren't any new fighting games out or I would.
I do like the game, retard
Dueling is dueling. Even terms. Otherwise it wouldn't be called dueling. The option shouldn't be in the game then if they're going to allow faggotry. Invasions are different.

I don't use ashes of war or buffs. I don't even the use cheap talismans. Just rh zweihander because I'm not a piece of shit. I even beat most of the bosses this way because I'm not shit at the game that needs cheats to win.

Duels are invasions are completely separate things in terms of strategy and weapons.
Invasions are where big slow weapons that can do burst damage and nuke phantoms shine.
Duels usually go for faster weapons/spells that are more about forcing rolls and roll catching, even if the damage isn't optimal.

Yeah he just gets to sit on one spot spamming mashing one button to spam magic when I'm doing all the work actually trying to fight. If you like using magic so much then go play Lego Harry Potter or get your palms read like the pussy female you are

I do win against most of them. This doesn't excuse shitty gameplay. I'm so sick and tired of this excuse

Holding B and forward-left on the stick isn't much work though.

>challenge somebody outside of a bar
>opponent pulls out a gun
>lol just keep running until you close the gap
Wow

You cannot stacks 10 buffs.
You can only have a 1 spell/weapon art buff on your weapon, 1 food buff on your body and 1 spell buff on your body.
Using another just overwrites the first.

And usually, most duelists just wait for 1 weapon/1body buff then they just attack if you keep fucking around.

>ONLY R1 IS ALLOWED AND MY R1 IS STEONGER THAN YOURS SO I WIN
>FUCK YOU IF YOU ROLL
>FUCK YOU IF YOU PARRY
>FUCK YOU IF YOU BAIT ATTACKS
>FUCK YOU IF YOU USE SPACING
>FUCK YOU IF YOU BACKSTAB
>FUCK YOU IF YOU JUMP
>FUCK YOU IF YOU DUALVIELD
>FUCK YOUR BUILD REEEEE

I can't believe people are defending this shit. I really can't. All night it's been driving me insane that these players are allowed to think they're good just for meta slaving. I wish I could see some of you person for defending dumb shit like this because I would honestly just beat the shit out of you on the spot.

Are you actually dueling people or invading randoms? Be honest

Everything you mentioned is fine so long as it's melee only.

Souls spells are not hit-scan and have minor tracking, that's why many don't even need to be rolls and can just be side-sprited.

Even the shittiest spamming mages are not a big deal compared to ROB weapon art spam.

Just send them back dude
If I see seppuku, you're going back
If I see bull-goat with dual spear, you're going to be summoned in my world just to be sent back
If I see a greatshield, you're going to be summoned in my world, clapped at, and then sent back
If someone buffs with 3 different shit before the fight, clap at them and then send them back

I'm dueling at the Main Academy Gate. I had to shut it off because I was getting mad all night and then the neighbors were putting their lights on. I had my window down.

The point he's trying to make is the fight is boring and braindead because all it boils down to is closing the gap. There's no skill being used when someone is just sitting at range spamming spells and dies instantly as soon as they get into melee or just tries to run away while getting running r1'd to death.

I don't learn anything and neither do you, I didn't get better and neither did you, I didn't have fun and neither did you. I just spent my time holding B and forward whilst tapping B every 1.5 seconds until I was close enough to 1 shot your 15 vigor build because you don't actually know how to play the game and have just tried to cheese everything.

No one is arguing that spellcucks aren't fucking terrible and a free win in PvP. That doesn't mean that every time you get one you don't physically groan at the waste of time that's about to ensue and the sheer boredom that is constantly rolling affinity/CSS until you stab them once.

Then to add to it, maybe the other guy is actually a decent duelist and this is just some rando he summoned and now you're versing someone who's good and some other random fucktard just spamming spells and chugging blue, not actually doing anything other than setting the visual clarity of the area you're fighting in to 0 and forcing you to go poke him once to get rid of him before actually getting to do what you invaded for in the first place, play the fucking game.

I just want them to nerf moonveil and bleed, and to let me invade solo shitters so I'm not stuck in queues for several minutes after insta-invades dry up.

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>Yeah he just gets to sit on one spot spamming mashing one button to spam magic

From DS2 onward spells have been nerfed significantly.
First off, they cost lots stamina to cast, so you can't spam quick casting spells forever and if you just cast them non-stop them at zero stamina you won't be able to roll or block.
Second, the FP system from DS3 forces them to chug blue shit to continue casting, they don't have all the spell charges at all times like DS1/2.

Or you can use a spell parry shield and completely outclass and shame him.

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PvP is fun, you just need to be creative.

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DS3 had a very similar "invasions for COOPers only" mechanic and it was super active at all times with 10 seconds to find an invasion in most areas.

The only difference is you were open for 1 solo invasion if you invaded yourself recently, so it had like an auto-taunters tongue if you were a sinner.

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What weapon is it that the second opponent is powerstancing?

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>literally shitting lightning shit on the enemies
loling

I'm on ps4 DS3 and no one else seems to be here to duel.
Damn I miss DS3 arena duelling..

it's in the game = it's fair play
either use it, or learn to deal with it, or better yet: both
stop being a fucking scrub lord holy shit