hidden palace and sazpaimon is entirely responsible for sonic 3&k being remastered because sony refused to license the mj crew's tracks to sega, or rather sega refused to pay royalties to sony. in other words the beta music is being used
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I actually dig the beta tracks using the Genesis sound chip
Sauce?
Not sure if you're bullshitting or not, but I'd be fine with that, the beta music is really fucking good.
>tfw you grew up playing the PC version of Sonic & Knuckles
Hearing that first second of that song back in 2019 opened up my third eye, after years of hearing the botched MIDI version of this song
>Sony doesn't let SEGA use music written by a pedo
Do they want to keep for themselves?
>hidden palace and sazpaimon is entirely responsible for sonic 3&k being remastered
Explain
Wouldn't Sega have already been aware of the beta tracks
Iffy on the other beta tracks as I was when I first played Sonic 3 pc (I didn't have a genesis sue me) but holy god Carnival Night might actually be tolerable now.
>Digital only.
>Lots of content hidden behind a paywall including retarded shit like animations for the reused Sonic Generations models.
>Knuckles is playable on every game but CD.
>45 motherfucking dollars plus tip for 5 games when "Sega Genesis/Mega Drive classics" is cheaper and has 50 games.
All that makes it not worthy of purchase if you already got the games.
proof?
The only real issue with the beta tracks is that Launch Base Beta only works in S3&K, it doesn't work as a "Final Zone" type theme.
Why would anyone think adding bonus music into a game would be a selling point? Who the fuck is going to sit in a video game menu to listen to music?
In a collection it's a bit less weird.
My nigger. Mine had 3 in it as well. Also had PC versions of CD, 3D Blast, and R.
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Well Brad Buxter is also a nigger over Ice Cap. I'm sure someone will have it modded back in a day.
i will nigger
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I'll sit on it until Christmas. Price will be more stomachable and mods will fix the bullshit.
I liked the midi versions all along.
Sazpaimon? The 7chan guy?
All these prototype songs need is a bit of polish and they're perfectly fine.
>>Lots of content hidden behind a paywall
What exactly are you missing out on really? REALLY think about it, that deluxe shit is a literal scam because you get literally nothing of value for those extra 5 bucks.
Post yfw they actually do have the final game's songs intact but also have the beta tracks as an alternate option
You dig trash, son? The multiplayer music most people never hear is better than this trash.
I already have superior rom hacks so I didn't need any more reasons not to buy this, thank you.
>tfw played it alone just to listen to Endless Mine and Chrome Gadget
;_;
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I'm guessing he means they made everyone else (most importantly Sony's lawyers) aware of it and basically confirmed stuff that had been just theories for all these years. Basically SEGA couldn't play dumb anymore.
>lots of content hidden behind a paywall
Or, discount if you don't care about stupid shit.
You either think the price is fair or you don't. No need to pretend to be mad about non issues.
the beta tracks could have been good but in the proto they're midi tier and don't have the right instruments yet.
I know people like latching onto beta content but the beta tracks suck
I'm still surprised that some of Endless Mine made it into Generation's Escape from the City
Cringe
The beta competition mode theme is one of the best tracks in the series
Ice Cap beta track sucks.
It's Carnival Night Zone, it's either that or DA DA DADADADA DA DA CIRCUS
>Still believing MJ was a pedo
>Still believing it was an overdose
>Not knowing based nigger was trying to end Sony’s tyranny over artists
MJ was a victim of his father and then the industry. Only thing that made him Waco Jacko was them purposefully fucking him again and again.
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Beta Carnival Night Act 2 is a total fucking bop.
was that on purpose also how?(pic)
Still have my copy installed. Shame all the desktop bgs on the disc were low-rez/256-colour only.
Regular Sonic 3 music isn't even that great like 100% of the good songs are in &K
Is there a mod for S3 AIR that adds this remastered soundtrack in?
I prefer the MJ music, but I already own and played 3&K several times over, so if it had the beta OST at least it'll provide some variety.
What the fuck do they mean by movable camera and menu animations
>because sony refused to license the mj crew's tracks to sega
And this is a great thing! As Boomer who grew up playing Sonic in Mega Drive, the MJ music are dogshit and the beta non midi are better, the only good music is hard times.
The movable camera probably refers to being able to see the actual recreated zones on the 3D island maps, no idea what the menu animations are but I'm assuming they're little sprites that play we you navigate the menus
What the fuck was Sega thinking?
I prefer a mix. PC had better Carnival music & midboss. Genesis had better Ice Cap & Launch Base.
Least I can have it both ways on the PC port courtesy of community tools.
Somebody told them Ubisoft-style edition maps sells more, I guess. It's not actually that complicated.
>not liking Launch Base
Tasteless.
The original MJ tracks are some of the most kino sonic music of all time. If you haven't seen this guy's videos where he breaks them down it is absolutely worth a watch
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The Sonic 3 proto made me realize that the final Act 2 songs for Carnival Night, Icecap and Launch Base aren't even real remixes compared to the other zones
Which song is that? Link it.
MJ's team did much more simplistic "remixes" that are mostly just removing instruments or shifting them around. The other tracks have much more significant changes, it's one of the things that identifies who composed what.
If any company would be so retarded to forget to archive old builds of their games and that there was even a previous version of a soundtrack before a deal was made with MJ/Buxer. It'd be SEGA.
Ice Cap 2 is pretty different
Yes and it sucks and comes off as lazy
There's still some neat things to appreciate in these tracks though. Ice cap is my favorite track from the original trilogy youtube.com
Sauce or you're retarded.
I'll miss OG Ice Cap and Launch Base, I like those two. Carnival Night can burn in a pit tho. That whole fucking level is about pissing you off, and to make it worse they force you to listen to that clown music the whole fucking way. But let's be real, someone will mod in the OG songs as soon as the game is out.
The beta music sucks you faggot. It even sounds unfinished.
>The music in a prototype sounds unfinished
And Origins only has them as a single game, so that problem is removed.
For real though, is there a single person in current year playing just Sonic 3 or just Sonic & Knuckles?
Ice cap act 2 sounds unfinished as hell in the original. So boring
either provide actual proof or fuck off
That's if they aren't in, I have my doubts but it's still a mystery. I'm tempted to boot up 3K first when I get the collection just to check and see if they're in or not
Maybe it's just me but there's such a style shift between the first half and the next.
>Angel Island in minor key because lolfire
>Hydrocity second act is pretty frenzied
>Marble Garden is upbeat but still mostly plodding song befitting a ruin
>Sudddenly Super happy funtime carnival
>Super happy funtime Winter
>Launch base has a finality to it but it's still pretty cheesy
I assume that's where Flying Battery was meant to intervene but we all know how that went.
>he doesn't know that Sony slandered him and then later murdered him
CNZ Act 2 in the proto is meant to reflect the chaos of the long stage, as well as the lights going out and the place being flooded