How many flops can they endure before going under?

>This is already in motion.
They are in no way struggling right now.
Even with big blunders like avengers.

so you don't know what you're talking about?
Yea Forums isn't a reflection of "the gaming community". FF15 was a profitable project despite the fact that square had released complete stinkers for 10 years before it.

if you read their shareholder reports square has made a lot of money and continues to make a lot of money, thanks to the pile of shit that is ff14, its in game store and the gachas they develop for mobile.

>How many flops can they endure before going under?
If Final Fantasy XV flopping didn't kill them, nothing will.

Well I guess I stand corrected.
There really are losers who like that trash, eh?

Even garbage mobile gachas Square Enix puts out need money for continuous operation and marketing to compensate for players who leave for Genshin Impact, FGO, etc on top of a recognizable high profile IP attached to them. It's not a money printer.

>going under
All of Japan will keep them afloat for DQ it's literally never gonna die

>FF15 was a profitable project
lmao

Retards.
No matter how much you think SE is producing shit. They own some of the biggest IPs in Japan. They can keep producing low budget AA garbage that bombs for eternity and it won't matter because their flagships are literally to big to fail.
The only reason they bother with AA shit like Balan Wonderland, Left Alive, SoP, TWEWY etc etc is because they have nothing to lose and are trying to capture lightning in a bottle.
Nier was one such successful experiment. Nier Gestalt/Replicant on PS3 sold like shit, they didn't give up and Automata did amazing numbers and now they have a fairly strong franchise they can capitalize on.

They only need 1 new IP every 30 experiments to succeed and then their flagships will make sure they will never sink. There will always be people interested in investing in SE as long as FF, KH, DQ, Tomb Raider etc exist. You can hate them and call them "shit" but they sell a shitton of copies and spawn a shitton of spin offs and mobile games, in short they make money and their brand name is still relevant and will be for a long time yet.

Not sure but they're definitely not the sure bet they were when I was young.

None, because se is too big and can afford it.
Learn how project management work, specially on big corporations.

Bruh with FF14 being on their side, they ain't going down anytime soon.
Plus shit like Triangle Strategy and many more of their games on Switch keeping them afloat.

As long DQ and trannies exists any number.

They bend over to the ESG jew money now
They can print endless money.

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>They own some of the biggest IPs in Japan
Their two major IPs named Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts have been declining hard in Japan for who knows how long.
>They can keep producing low budget AA garbage
Moron. AA shovelware for Nintendo Switch are the only HD games from Square that make bank. FF7R sales were middling and that was their tentpole release, lol.
>They only need 1 new IP every 30 experiments to succeed and then their flagships will make sure they will never sink
Modern games are expensive, retard. One relatively successful game won't cover the losses for 30 flops.
>they sell a shitton of copies and spawn a shitton of spin offs and mobile games
Babylon's Fall flopped. FFSoP flopped. FF7FS flopped. FF7EC will flop. Yeah, it's totally working out for them. Just need more FF7 related mobile shovelware.

Yeah so profitable they cancelled DLC development for it, because it was profiting TOO much, right?

user. FFXIV, DQX, and Dragon Quest in plain general is enough to keep them going alone. At most they'd dial back new shit and focus on the above 3.

>have been declining hard in Japan
both recent games have been million sellers in japan. then there's dq which is still popular as it ever was
>FF7R sales were middling
It wasn't.

It's really useless to argue with midwits like you who overestimate your intelligence and speak out of your ass without actually knowing what you're talking about.

>they cancelled DLC development for it
They cancelled everything luminous studios was doing that wasn't the AAA game. It had nothing to do with XV itself.

Unfortunately, gaming isn't their only source of income.

B NOTHING WRONG WITH FFXV
A NOTHING WRONG WITH FFXV
R NOTHING WRONG WITH FFXV
R SOMEONES POSTING ABOUT FFXV
Y SOMEONES POSTING ABOUT FFXV

This is ironic coming from a brainwashed Square cuck who forgot that SE was close to bankruptcy after XIV 1.0 diaster. Keep feeding your delusion that they are invulnerable.

It's not but they have nothing to fall back on if their gaming revenue dries up.

>SE was close to bankruptcy after XIV 1.0 diaster
The close they ever actually got was spirits within

They were never close to bankruptcy. You are again proving how retarded you are.
They weren't close to bankruptcy even when Spirits Within bombed since Sony almost immediately bailed them out by buying 20% of their shares and selling them back to them later.
Square was nowhere NEAR getting bankrupt when XIV 1.0 bombed. What XIV did though was seriously damage the brand name of Final Fantasy for a while which ARR fixed. Going in the red for one year means nothing.

Midwits really are the most retarded humans on the planet. They're not as dumb as the average person, but they're far far more dumb than an actually intelligent human while thinking they're as smart as him. That's what makes you both annoying and dangerous to society. Kill yourself asap.

They still haven't learned their lesson since they came out with atleast 2 movies after that

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Advent children was at least profitable for them since they made it to direct to dvd and they themselves handled distribution.

>But flops dont matter for big companies anymore because they can keep making money with garbage mobile gachas.
We're gonna have more turds like Strangers of Paradise and Quiet Man piling up aren't we?

Tell me, what does Matsuda's cock taste like?

Despite FF Japanese sales being less than they were in the past, both FF7R and FF15 sold more than the vast majority of games on Switch in Japan (1 million+).

For comparison, Breath of the Wild sold 230k copies in its first week

>close to bankrupcy
Are you retarded

I don't know why you're bringing up matsuda when XIV 1.0 was under wada

right i forgot about that one

>both FF7R and FF15 sold more than the vast majority of games on Switch in Japan
Oh, that is about to change with PS5. Japan has zero interest in it.

As long as the Dragon Quest and SaGa mobage keep printing those morbidly insane amounts of money they can just coast through console failures for decades.

I hope Genshin Impact kills them eventually.

You're so retarded the only thing you can do is deflect to "haha fanboy shill" when all I am doing is talking facts and nothing else. You don't know my opinion of SE and yet you talk about me sucking SE's dick while discussing about how profitable the company is or isn't.

Even their hits like Tomb Raider lose money after selling 10mil copies so they're really screwed in some regards.

>Strangers of Paradise
>Babylon's Fall
>CC hd port
>Forespoken
>Valkyrie Elysium
>Diofeild Chronicle

Doesn't look good. The only hit they have this year is Triangle Strategy and people seem to be excited of Live a Live HD 2D remaster

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japan being unable to get their hands on it like everyone else does not mean zero interest.

You're clearly an uninformed retard who can't read Powerpoint graphs. Square Enix gacha games have high revenue yet they are less profitable than FFXIV. Saying that they can cushion the blow from 30+ console failures is reaching.

Even with strained PS5 sales, it stands to reason FF16 will still be a relatively big seller in Japan at least capable of moving a few hundred thousand copies. This will still put them ahead or on par with big Nintendo releases

mynintendonews.com/2022/04/11/japan-latest-famitsu-most-wanted-games-charts-2/

>Square Enix gacha games have high revenue yet they are less profitable than FFXIV
Actually they're a bit more profitable.

>>Strangers of Paradise
>>Babylon's Fall
>>CC hd port
>>Forespoken
>>Valkyrie Elysium
>>Diofeild Chronicle
All shovelware.

Hope really hard then because the SaGa mobage alone is somehow still topping charts despite being four years old already and it doesn't look like it will stop any time soon, DQ has even better highs than that and put together they make comical amounts of money, Chinkshit will have to try really hard if not even horsepussy can shake off those two titans, if they decide to open the fanservice floodgates it will all be over.

>Even their hits like Tomb Raider lose money after selling 10mil copies
This isn't true. they said Tomb raider was a flop when it had poor launch sales but the game rebounded and then had 11 million sales, which they then said the game was a hit.

You're wasting my time. Maybe you'll re-read this conversation and realize how retarded you are when you stop using your mouth to breath.

being mobile games they also cost less to make and maintain compared to their mmos

Forspoken will tank them harder than Spirits Within.

maybe this was the main reason why the CEO of SE said they shouldn't try to emulate western game because they can't do it right

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Forspoken is blatant FFXV asset flip. It doesn't cost nearly as much as you think.

this looks like one of those "schizo fps gameplay" webms that get posted often

>spend 4 years shitting out the most Western looking turd possible
>*checks preorders*
>OHSHIT WTF ME NO RONUGE WANTU EMURATE WESTERN GAMU

So, you can actually show me the assets they pulled from FFXV instead of talking out of your ass?

They won't go under unless you tortanic their gatcha games (their biggest revenue generator)

it's probably gonna tank luminous studios into closing that's for sure.

Aren't they using the same engine at least. I can see them reusing assets to save on time and cost. I know Babylon Fall borrowed assets from FFXIV

>square going backrupt
LMAOOOO. I thought marvel was supposed to do that?

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You must be blind if you can't see that everything they've shown in Niggerspoken is just repurposed FFXV shit.

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SE already lost $30 Million because of them. Surprised they're allowing them to make this game

>last 10 games didn't meet sales expectations
The investors are already shorting SQEX.

The webm of the combat itt has animations reused from xv