What went so terribly wrong?

What went so terribly wrong?

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Rather than focusing on the core of the game that made it popular they added in stupid gimmicky shit that no one asked for and released it broken and unbalanced.

There's three games worth of content that isn't fielded yet.

The campaign isn't terrible and is a good bit better than the Vortex, but there's no lizards or dwarves or wazzock elves so it doesnt feel like Warhammer at all despite having some of its most unique factions.

The game officially releases with the combined map, so I can't really say

Nothing. You are going to buy it all and the DLC.

>wazzock
cringe

>CA game on release
nothing new

i like it

No rats no buy. Simple as.

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Ogres are based and so is the game. Get ready to cry about player numbers once Immortal Empires releases

THE SKAVEN ARE RELENTLESS.

Cathay was a launch faction retard

>muh immortal empires
Nothing can't save this turd of a game with this garbage setting

god cant wait to spam exploding brood horrors and mow down all the new factions with ratling guns in me3

Realms of Chaos is probably the worst campaign in a strategy game I've ever played, it doesn't help the factions don't even get unique cutscenes except a snippet of dialogue differences in their respective endings.

will units from old games be as unresposive/sluggish as WH3 units?

It's the third installment of what is essentially the exact same game and they already used up all the interesting factions in the first two.

So much went wrong, that I'm at a loss. I don't even know where to start. It is a if Creative Assembly collectively decided that all the neat improvements for the game that came with patches/DLC in WH2 were not relevant.
>main campaign.
A super ass version of the vortex race that required shills, leddit and the CA forums to fucking explode, so you can atleast ignore it until someone is close to winning.
>New races
They are either bare bones or just lack the minor improvements to make them even remotely on par with the latest wh2 patches. Certain traits are just in the wh1 state, icons are ass, the ui is trash and somehow CA forgot they had artists that could draw neat pictures for sacking/razing/conquering settlements. The lack of minor details is really fucking confusing.
>Improvements
Honestly, the few improvements there are, are so minor that I can't comprehend why we just didn't get a wh2 resking with new races. I think even that would have been preferable. The new settlement battles are super ass and the cluinky unit control makes them super unfun. Diplomacy adopted some neat things from 3K, but the AI bias against the player went full retard and is now the terrible terrible wh2 state before an update 3 years ago, that toned down the anit player shenanigans.
>Ca being super slow morons.
This one gets me the most. Doomposters have a field day and even non schizos like me are super skeptical if the game is going to get better. There is a precedent with 3K were the game was just abandoned after CA promised more updates. Currently people are either living in a dream world and pretend the devs are preparing a super awesome Chaos Dorf DLC that will save eversything or the game is already dead and CA is dragging their feet to tell everyone the bad news.

All in all the slow updates, the really non existant communication despite having four Community managers and the super buggy launch does not fill me with hope.

Some modders tested it and they behave like ass.
WH1 units even have comments from WH1 gamefiles in them.

>over two months after release
>not even a hint of blood or the combined map
this is the only thing that matters. all of the shitty bugs and downgrades from wh2 could be forgiven if the combined map was out but there hasn't been a fucking peep from CA on when it's coming out whereas ME came out less than a month after WH2's release

>Nothing. You are going to pirate it all and the DLC.
You are not wrong, friend.

>General retardation
>Hire 4 community managers but decide to go silent
>Need to hire someone to make a 100 word blog post
>Spaghetti code
>Youtubers you asked to make reviews say they'll be negative if you don't fix the game
>Release launch videos 3 months down the line because of the negative reviews and nobody buying the game
>Get out performed by modders the day you give them modding access
>Ban everyone who asks why some basement dweller can do in a few hours what took you months
>Know the subreddit will still defend you to the death
>Know histsoys will come back to worship you for a week after you release the next IOS to PC port of your old games """"remastered"""" then go back to Paradox games
The list goes on but I'd rather they shut themselves away than cry about how Ukraine is stopping them fixing game breaking bugs like the Halo devs

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At this point I am asking myself, what will happen to CA if they abandond Wh3 for real.

If its another history game like thrones of shitannia then they're fucked
If its another fantasy game but its an ip that nobody cares about then they're fucked
Realistically I'd image CA pump out a few mediocre games, they'd downsize and their legions of middle managers and social media experts will go elsewhere and they'd still have the hubris to call you a fucking retard for not buying the please God China buy this game blood pack dlc 15 more cut content edition

The genuine answer is that Creative Assembly doesn't know how their code works because they're incompetent. They even put out a community post admitting this, saying that they can't fix one thing without breaking a million other things because their code is spaghettified bullshit.

No fucking patches, holy shit.

Mortal empires out yet

>ywn be raped by femake Th(r)ot the unclean
why even live?

No, not out yet. All bets are pointing towards fall 2022. Pessimists even consider early 2023 release.

They let the B Team design the factions and mechanics instead of letting the A Team (DLC team) do it.

This is probably the first game I regret buying on launch since fucking Spore. After 1 and 2 I was certain they would have things fixed in a month or two but somehow their incompetence has exceeded my expectations.

Why does it run like ass compared to wh2? It doesn't even look better

Shame, the game will probably be a graveyard till then

My pc can't even run the first one, wouldn't know

Yeah it’s like it was made by completely different people then they guys that made warhammer 1 and 2.

Not playing 3 again until I can be my main man Settra the Imperishable

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They pledged 7 years of post-launch support. Seeing how they pulled the plug on 3K after disappointing DLC sales I doubt they'll keep to their promise.

>Histsoys
It has been the Warshitters who shoveld cash upon cash buying all the cashgrab DLC's that enabled their todays retardation

Sure thing histsoy
Keep screaming about muh heckin painting figurineos while buying the lasted le ebin warrior woman dlc or all the cut content from Attila

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Thanquol (and Boneripper) specifically.

>forgot pic

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Chaos Dwarfs->Nagash->Southern Realms->Ind->Khuresh

>Cut content from Attila
Attila itself was cut content to begin with turned into a game to sell more cut content

I'd put Monkey King + some random lord after Chaos Dwarfs first since they've been hinting pretty heavily at that one

>Developed on an older version of the WH2 engine
>Have to spend time post-release to get it up to speed
>Code so spaghetti'd they had to make a blogpost about it, and why we will have to wait for new content.

Monkey King is just a Cathay Lord
This is race pack list

nice projection faggot, implying anyone buys that shit unlike warshitters goggling up tooom kang tier dlc's in masses.
All his-fans warned you about CA being incompetent niggas and eventually they will fuck it up, but you didnt listen ate their shit up like whores and now you blame it on his-fans.
Typical warshitter parasites.

At least pick a bad DLC like Warriors of Chaos
Tomb Kings is the best one they've ever made and is actually worth the price.

thanks for validating my argument

No problem, historyfriend.

In all seriousness who is more to blame for this mess? GW or CA?

>The campaign isn't terrible
The campaign is terrible by all metrics purely by the fact you get more fun and varied gameplay by playing a literal sandbox mode from the two previous games.

CA.
GW just gave them the IP, they didn't tell them to be lazy and terrible programmers.

Aright, thought maybe they mingled in between and made it harder for CA to finish the game.
So CA has 0 excuses for being retards then.

campaign mechanics weren't fun.

>Nobody bought my dlc but everyone purchased yours
>We told you CA was shit while your entire community is saying CA is shit
>Why must your persecute us so you fucking cancer!
The eternal victim
Aren't' the other 2 people in the vst general missing you?

GW's role in these games is to make sure that all their art, models, etc., are representing Warhammer as accurately as possible. Obviously GW are lazy shits and didn't do that job very well though considering what happened to Throgg but really that's par for the course with GW.
All the technical and design problems with the game are 100% CA's fault.

>gimmicky shit
oh so just like WH2?s shitty campaign? This campaign was just somehow even worse, but its fine now. Now the problem are WAY too many minor settlement battles, and performance

>The eternal victim
funny coming from someone who immediately started with "muh heckin painting figurineos", even tho I didnt mention that at all.
>We told you CA was shit while your entire community is saying CA is shit
Good, at least some common ground to work with.
>Aren't' the other 2 people in the vst general missing you?
Coffee break

>but its fine now
No, it really is not. The campaign is STILL worse than the Vortex and the Vortex was fucking terrible.

Is mortal empires out yet? It's been a while.

>Nothing can't save this turd of a game with this garbage setting

You are playing a "GRAND STRATEGY GAME" that wants you to think it's a Warhammer videogame that forgot it's the shitty Fantasy Setting.

The crazy thing to me is if they just made this a big expansion to 2 and added Atilla sieges people probably would have been happy.
They actively fucked it up

I see, what a shame.
Hopefully CA gets canned soon.

>The campaign is STILL worse than the Vortex
That's a lie
I dropped vortex after two days, but I played chaos realms for at least 4
They still didn't released new mortal empires. That's literally the only problem
And lack of communication from developers about roadmaps

It's the biggest studio in the UK with hundreds of employees
They're supposed to be making some fps atm too

Rushed, still needs immortal empires. That's basically it.
Honestly, has there been any game released the past 5 years that didnt need patches at release? I feel like devs in general are starting to get sloppy.

>you can stop rifts
>you don't get super fucked going into realms, chaos factions are immune to one of the realms, and the negative traits are removed when you finish it
>you also get better bonuses for going into said rifts
>you set back factions at the end by 120 turns if you intercept the final battle
Literally what is wrong with it besides maybe player bias which seems worse than usual.

You can ignore virtex entirely and just paint the map. If you do the same with wh3 you just lose.

One of the worst things in Warhammer 2 were the siege battles so they made them even worse
They changed the grimdark aesthetic to something more cartoony which should not happen in a Warhammer game
The new realms of chaos campaign is pretty shit
>Realm of Tzeentch is pure cancer
>Realm of Slaanesh is boring as fuck
>Realm of Nurgle is an annoyance
>Realm of Khorne is the only fun one
>managing chaos portals across your realm is just tedious
The factions are underwhelming with there only really being 4 different factions but one of them was split into 5 separate ones while another one is locked behind day one DLC
Faction and unit balance is so all over the place that a newcomer to these games can build what looks like a functional army but what is actually an ineffective waste of money. The game basically requires you to look up metagame info and build around cheese strats on any difficulty above normal. Or even on normal if you happen to pick one of the shittier factions.
The UI was made worse for no apparent reason at all
It's just a massive downgrade compared to 2

He clearly never played release wh2 with it's 2 minute turns at start(5 minutes for mid and late game) and terrible spam warriors of chaos campaign mechanic