UX

>aaa studios started hiring "ux" designers
>now every game forces you to hold the button and watch a circle fill all the way up before you interact

>I have never heard of it, therefore it doesn't exist
Ignorance isn't a quality, user.

That's like saying game design is the "idea guy" of 3d modelling. It's not because it's abstract to you that it doesn't require skills.

>It's not because it's abstract to you that it doesn't require skills.

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Yeah the rise of the term 'UX' coincides precisely with every interface in now software going completely to shit.

"UX" is pretend job for affirmative action hires that sit on their phone browsing twitter all day

>596758357
>redditjak at the first sign of difficulty
You hate trannies yet you act like one

>UI
the look of the interface and menus
>UX
the way you interact with them

its not hard.

MK Ultra

careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ux-design/what-is-user-experience-ux-design-everything-you-need-to-know-to-get-started/
UX has been a separate thing for longer than most people here have been alive. Just because some retards got salty about Elden Ring doesn't mean it's not a proper job.

>no argument
>no counter-argument
i accept your concession, cope, seethe, dilate and evacuate posthaste

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>user INTERFACE
>not how the user interacts with the software

It's basically a term for people who are too low iq to handle using the same term for an object and for the process of reasoning about that object.

Some faggot on twitter criticized Elden Ring from a UI/UX perspective. So now Yea Forums is obligated to shit on the entire concept.

UX
IS
NOT
A
THING

So stop pretending like it is

So what is UX supposed to be?

Nothing of any real importance

>That's like saying game design is the "idea guy" of 3d modelling.
yeah, it is.

Man, this thread really sUX.

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Not pressing 10 buttons to do something that you'll do a million time.

Yes it is. Imagine you have a storefront like Amazon, the ui is the literal layout of the page that people interact with i.e. the item products page, being able to see the reviews, etc.

Now, you and the analytics team see that when using the page, users have a hard time doing something like adding a credit card or purchasing a particular type of item, so a UX person comes in and sees how to make the process easier. It could be asking the UI person to change the layout, or it could be the color scheme isn't color blind co patible so people miss it. Whatever that core defined reason is, the UX person tries to find and investigate it. Almost like an architect and the actual construction worker, but that's a strained analogy.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_experience

Not so long ago it was all UI designer's job.

>so a UX person comes in and sees how to make the process easier. It could be asking the UI person to change the layout,
Except ergonomics are a discipline of UI design, you moron, and has been since the the start.

What you are describing as a separate discipline was always integral part of UI design skill-set. There is no reason to pretend it's a separate discipline.

ux = ideas guy
ui = actually makes the ideas happen

UX is just another diversity hire slot.

What? It's the opposite. UX is programming things to work while UI is just someone drawing their fursona.

>don't study tech
>don't have tech job
>don't hear about terms above your understanding
That's how it works, Jethro. Educate yourself.

I have to admit, being this passionate about whether UX is it's own thing or if it all falls under the UI umbrella is an impressive level of autism.

Specialization is something that happens in every industry. I'm not sure why you're surprised its happening in an industry that's had rapid specialization. 25 years ago, being a web developer meant being a front end, back end, and to some extent a db / IT engineer today. Things get more complicated, so more specialization is needed to compensate. Data scientists, data engineers, machine learning engineers are all specialized roles with discrete differences emerging in a similar way.

>don't study gender studies
>still think that there are 2 genders
This is what you sound like.

Except for UI you really don't need that shit.
This is a fad and nothing more, like diversity coordinators. Shit will pass.

Well I heard about it over 12 years ago. Likely before you were born. Don't let faggots color your perception of actual concepts.

Yes, and it was the job of a "developer" to do everything in the game when video games started, does that mean we shouldn't have split the job?
And it's not just about ergonomics you simpleton, the way the user interacts with a product goes beyond that.

God it's so fucking annoying to see retards on Yea Forums argue about the definition of a word that is accepted everywhere. If the color blue was invented now you fucking fags would argue that it's a "nu-color" and it shouldn't exist because we have green.

"the way the user interacts with the product" is literal buzzword mumbo jumbo aimed to suck money from departments that matter.

>don't study how sales are boosted in supermarkets and stores through music used to provide a calm atmosphere
>uh, why is dis store, like, playing dis moosic, i dont understand
get a job that requires some actual skill instead of mcdonalds

>Specialization is something that happens in every industry.
Yes, we have a specialized term for this. It's called "ergonomics". It has been around for a while. In fact it's been around since the very first design philosophy studies were officially academically studied, which would make it a perfectly function and widely used term for 150 years now.

This term literally did not exist in design theory outside of a work of a SINGLE man who was completely irrelevant until about three years ago, when in gaming industry, and ONLY in gaming industry, this shit started to pop up among amateurs, journos and twitter whores.

See above. There is established terminology for this already. This is literally people digging up a completely irrelevant idiots idiotic term to make themselves look special.

That being said, it should never have become a separate job title.

>"the way the user interacts with the product" is literal buzzword mumbo jumbo aimed to suck money from departments that matter.
Are you retarded?
It's not. It's an incredibly important thing to consider when designing U.I. In fact it's the most important consideration, the rest of your design needs to be only build on foundations of ergonomics.

It's just that nobody but twats ever uses the term UX to describe it.

University of Xiaomi

Post an example of good UX. Oh wait, you can't because UX exists to appease suits not users

Everyone "needs" to work 8 hours a day so we are just making up jobs at this point.

Its a byproduct of economies of scale. When you realize your website might be used by people who don't speak English or have English as a second language, or may have never used a computer or website before, then there will be people specializing to make the process as easy a process as possible. People who game, especially those on Yea Forums likely have such a history of gaming and using the web that navigation through menus is second nature, but that's not true for everyone, which is why grandparents or even parents asked for help using Google or doing something someone here would think is trivially easy.

>study
You don't need to study video games to make video games.

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SO MANY BUZZWORDS

Except it quite literally exists to appease consumers in a way that Kingdom Come's cumbersome but period-appropriate UI doesn't. I'll have my cheeseburger with no ketchup.

if people had to put some effort into learning how it works and how to navigate it the world would be a better place.

>only the gaming industry
What? This term has been fucking everywhere in the web front end space for much longer than video games.

>User Interfaces and the need for good UX only exist in video games
Holy shit, get a life.

>three years ago, when in gaming industry, and ONLY in gaming industry, this shit started to pop up among amateurs, journos and twitter whores
Not the guy you're replying to but it's not just the gaming industry, UX has been getting increasing focus across the whole professional world. I work for a big four management consultancy and as early as five years ago one of my peers was telling me she wanted to quit to do UX work, which she now does for our local public transport agency. Even back then when I talked to her about UI concepts, she said that it was completely different to UX.

Thanks for confirming this gay thread isn't actually about video games, nigger. I'm gonna go play Cataclysm DDA with its million-button UI and enjoy myself.

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The only people its there to appeal to are the professional fart sniffers who infiltrate the productive parts of the industry and make their products worse for twitter clout.

>User eXperience
>not a thing
you fucking retard

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Yeah user, the "nu-color" YInMn Blue shouldn't exist because we have Blue already.

>pedo thinks that that the field of tech doesn't include video games
how low iq a job do you have?

Ok so apparently UX means a properly designed UI. Because now people separate things and the UI designer's only job is to make things pretty.
Thanks for clarifying.

UX is a perfectly valid concept, but the recent usage of it is disingenuous and not based in any real concern over usability or design. Instead the term is being weaponized as part of an extremely petty coordinated attack on Elden Ring because leftists in the game industry are currently upset at the game due to it being successful, by being the antithesis to the woke agitprop the western game industry has been made to produce.

next you will say that 'gender' is real word rivaling 'sex' in relevancy and not some pedophile's buzzword lol

UX is about how seamlessly the product can integrate data collection and microctransactions to increase revenue. UX isn't QoL. Rockstar social club is an example of UX design.

wasn't that obvious? They just invented another management position for people who aren't qualified in the field they manage. Another "idea-person".

Fuck, you're actually retarded

UX is not UI
UX is how well you implement the UI

>good UX
RIDGE RACER TYPE 4, YOU TRIPLE NIGGER

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Why is everything about politics with you people?

>people go to university to learn this dumb shit

Is this why every modern game is a cluttered mess

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No. It isn’t.