Game is impossible unless you use a proper build

Whats wrong with precons? Theyre there mostky for new players. WotCs biggest fuck up with commander was thinking shit like Dockside Extorionist, Hullbreacher and the C20 free spells (Fierce Guardianship specifically) among other things were fine

You are an extreme pleb.
Ramp that primarily comes from artifacts is shit unless you are building an artifact deck. You just want explosive vegetation and similar effects.

>play kike toy collectathon game
>complain about the basic mechanics
Why do people do this?

Because people play it?

EDH died the moment WOTC printed cards directly for EDH.

Um, nice try buddy, but there is simply nothing better than picrel. Seethe multicuck

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Yes? And? By playing it, are you not accepting some responsibility for choosing to play it? It's like driving a car and kicking up a stink you have to turn the key or press the gas pedal. What warrants these complaints?

No the other user was correct.
EDH was fun when you got to use weird legendary creatures that weren't good enough for 60 card and make fun, thematic decks using weird or unknown cards. Once WotC started officially supporting the format a lot of that went out the window because made-for-Commander legendary creatures were horribly overtuned compared to previous legendary creatures and almost all of the [prebuilt] commanders have braindead strategies that do not encourage neat synergies.

The very first set of Commander decks were fine but as soon as they became yearly releases the format turned to shit.

>EDH

Sorry, bro. Yea Forums is a pauper chad board.

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>Get mad at nu-magic
>Suggest they play Premodern if they hate it so much and just want to play classic MtG
>"BBBBBBUT ITS A SOLVED FORMAT!"
Every excuse in the book I swear

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>go to edh rec
>pick a 3 or 5 colored commander
>place the 40 most played card in one deck
>have 5 slots for wiggle room so your deck feels """unique""""
>rest of the slots are for pushed lands and pushed rocks

edh is solved format, solely exists to be a penis waving competition

>didn't draw green
>oops can't cast these spells that would give me colored mana

Reminder if you play EDH you are a tranny and modern was the only acceptable Modern format until MH2 released and now it's over so MtG is dead

>Be a faggot by picking a faggot deck
>No one plays with you
Simple solutions for simple problems.

then tell the people you are playing with to not use commanders made for commander

its that easy.

correct
>oh man my janky multicolor legendary now has a home
>introducing giga-face-fucker the blood forsaken, the 4 color legendary elemental that draws a card at least once every turn, explicitly interacts with the command zone, and is more powerful than 98% of legendaries

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modern was a poor man's legacy
now modern is a rotating format that's almost on power level par with legacy

>Format that has 0 real constraints in terms of what you play outside of talking it out with your mates
>Still upset instead of actually telling them you dont want to play with nu-legendaries
?????

>wizard destroys something
>just make your own rules lmao
you're just an autistic prick if you have your own rulesets. the game is supposed to be that anyone can play with anyone else that's following the format rules. Whatever, commander is the recovery bay for hurt feeligns anyway

>legacy is cheap as fuck bro, just tell the people you are playing with to not use ABU Duals.
>It's that easy!
You sound like exactly the kind of WotC apologist who also says that modern DnD isn't cancerous because you can just house-rule all of the officially published lore and shit away.

Yes user. You are now beginning to understand that if you are going to play a deck with 5 colors you need to prioritize green because that is where all of the fixing and ramp comes from.

Maybe in a year or two you'll know how to build a halfway decent deck.

This. The game died when they decided damage on the stack was "too complex" and that and a number of other mechanics were stupified for retards.

I don't care, I'm a kitchen sink player only in for the flavor.
By the way,
>Invades italian mafia world
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
What the fuck is his problem?

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Magic died when they stopped doing cumulative upkeep

This was recently? Last i played was before covid and i think damage was still in stack.

nah stack damage was like in 2009 or earlier or something
at least ten years i think

Damage was removed from the stack circa 2008 bro. I think during Alara.

If you consider 2010 recent, than yes. Damage on the stack cannot be responded to the same way anymore and the game lost a shit-ton of fun shenanigans because of it

I haven't played in 3 years or so, but was looking to pick up the game again. Is it Ragavan in Modern? Modern was the format that kept me around. Is pioneer any good?

I think it's better changed. Shitty new players don't understand tap abilities after blocks, zoomies would scream about those shenanigans.

I think Ragavan was banned in legacy but not modern lmao
absolute state of magic

I've only ever played kitchen table with people that never really read the full rules, we just knew basic stuff like one land per turn, tap, attack, block, keyword abilities, life go down yay i win, what the fuck is "damage on the stack"?

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I used to not give a shit about netdecking/edhrec until I got beaten by some faggot with some retarded combo that he just ramped and tutored for, I just checked that commanders edhrec page afterwards and unsurprisingly like 90% of the cards he used were on there

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Nigga, Damage on stack hasn't being a thing for over a decade.

player x casts fireball for 9000 damage
fireball is on the stack
player y casts counterspell
counterspell is on the stack
counterspell resolves, fireball does not

now imagine goblin boy attacking and then there's priority damage triggers like sicj

Basically, you could assign damage and respond to its resolution in very interesting ways. Here is a super basic example:
>Block with 2/2 with Fanatic.
>Assign damage combat damage.
>Before damage resolves, sacrifice Fanatic to its ability to deal an addition point and kill the 2/2.
The game is literally more interesting with it and some decks can be built around it.

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I play Indiana Jones bant artifacts snake tribal with every trap card.

I know you don't actually believe that.

Huh, thats how my people still play.
Thank god I never got roped into "serious" mtg.

people like whatever they had first and are resistant to change
the souls game are like that, people who played 2 first will always prefer 2, same for 1 or demons or whatever

Why are people defending Damage on Stack, when it was mostly people memorizing the same card resolutions for every game?

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you might be retarded and they might be cheating you
where the fuck are you with no stores or tourneys or judges?

Then why are there still mechanics that interact with it?

name one

That doesn't make any sense. How can the goblin deal combat damage and be sacrificed at the same time? If it no longer is in play it shouldn't deal combat damage.

Retarded for not knowing and cheating basically, and you're all too stupid to use it well, but better than retail magic as is.

We have those, we just ignore them and print cards instead.
>and you're all too stupid to use it well
That was uncalled for, you don't even know what kind of cards I like to play with.

No, you will play with outdated rules that make no sense. You don't want the fat neckbeards that stoped playing the game 10 years ago to laught at you, do you?

He had to go fast
Old Urabrask was better

Here we have our first retard that can't visualize or conceptualize anything in the game outside the numbers. The idea practically would be the goblin entered combat, fought the 2/2, and with his dying breath, used his ability.
What do you see in your head when you try to visualize an apple? 3-5 right?

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how long do you think the current gen of arena paypigs will stay forking over cash to wizards of the coast?
I give it two years

There aren't. You probably don't understand what "damage on the stack" means. That's fine, people itt are shit at explaining it.

>Makes no sense.
Another 3-5. See

god damnit
the stack is a fucking weird anomaly of card games, you never see it in other games. If you try to think about something like the minecraft card game (which is shit) the stack might rear it's head because it's one set of rules.
And generally, in the real world, if something doesn't exist, it's on capable of doing anything.

I explained it perfectly. You could assign damage and respond to its resolution with spells and abilities. I used the most basic example of Fanatic.

I won't bother explaining anything to you.
The fact you lost and have been irrelevant for over 10 years is all I need to say.

Does anyone play on Cockatrice or is that dead/useless nowadays?

>EDH is a childrens boardgame ala Candyland tier garbage
>every real format has been destroyed by years of cancer card design and Hasbros corporate meddling to push more profits over all else
>investors have ruined the market, killing any chance at new players (and whats worse is people defend them)
>Arenas a trashfire trying to squeeze every drop of cash out of you
>this isnt even getting into the stupid marvel capeshit storylines they keep dragging every set down with
>locals doesnt even host anything besides EDH anymore
OG Innistrad was really the last good thing we had huh

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It was the complex charm of a very old and watershed game that gave it character. The average magictard literally cannot understand the combat outside arithmetic.

I played pummeler during Kaladesh. That shit taught you to declare, wait, and pass priority. Kills rested on stupid blocks and when and where to pump. Good times. Maybe I should just buy an infect shell...

My point is I'm right. You can't explain it because you can only think of combat as an abacus and the actual mystique of the game and its former charm is lost on you. This is an attempt to save face when I explained why it makes sense. No need to reply further.

Damage on the stack is for trannies, the game was literally fine and only improving over time until the Gatewatch shit took center stage and planeswalker cocksucking become the norm. Having 250 sets per year doesn't help either so I quit and sold everything before it gets printed into the ground

tryhard commander is the worst possible way to play mtg

the stack is just the way the game organizes spells and effects being used in response to something. yugioh's chain is pretty much the same thing but you can't add more effects in once it starts resolving.

3-5 kek. why do trannoids without imagination that are confused by game rules still play this tranny game?

Is there even a current card game worth playing at this point?

I wanted to try flesh and blood, none of my friends cared though

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No, and there never was. The entire concept of CCGs are some kikes wet dream

I just play petdecks in Master Duel and make new accounts when i run out of wildcards.

Digimon Card Game

The problem is nowadays most of the legendary creatures you'll find in any set are designed with commander in mind.

>ERM AKTUALLY ITS ONLY 3-5 WHICH IS ONLY LIKE A FULL SETS WORTH OF DESIGN IN 2 MONTHS BUT ERM UR STILL WRONG FEED ME ANOTHER SECRET LAIR MASTER WOTC
Faggot

No. 3-5 That's where your brain is operating.

>players create grassroots format with interesting rules and restrictions
>c*rporation capitalizes on this and starts cranking out content for the new format
>utterly floods the format with overpowered must-have build-arounds and staples via their format-targeted merchandise
>originality is rapidly squeezed out as decks are all but obligated to include more and more of the pushed cards to stay relevant

fuck commander, and while i'm at it, fuck planeswalkers.

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What a stupid fucking pseduo-intellectual post.

That's fucking retarded

I dont even like EDH but even I see what a tragedy it is that this fun gamemode was immediately seized by Hasbro and literally raped to death for profit. Theres no corner of this game left that hasnt been killed for the sake of their quarterly bottom line.

Kinda glad I saw the writing on the wall and got out of there a long time ago but I do miss the better days before it all hit a breaking point.

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i would say pauper but they fuck that over too somehow
>blue monarch fuck your as well creature card
>ass to labia
Honestly the real strat is to stop buying packs, stop playing, and just wait a few years and pray that Hasbro dumps WotC

CCGs are 100% a zogbot kike creation. Why does this surprise anyone?