Quick! We need to put out a 5/10 piece of crap!

The novelty quickly wears off and then you realize it's just a bad series.

the remastered version with only cutscenes in the collection ruins the story of the game, if you're just skipping to the important parts you don't have time to care for the characters, you're not struggling with roxas, you're just being told what's happening, the ds version is not perfect gameplay wise, but it makes you care much more about the characters than pretty much any other kh game

What if I only think MGS2 is deep but only for the 'meme internet' aspect?

Lol, well if it isn't the (you) police, come to ruin another fun thread of friendly banter, huh?

Because Nomura.

Better gameplay, worse story. Literally the only point of Re:Coded is to say "You can be real and have a heart even if you're not human or some Mickey Mouse world race.", as a counterargument to KH2 saying all Nobodies deserved the rope.

Now go on. Go ahead and explain Coded, which literally only exists because Nomura thought you were too dumb to understand one line.

358/2 needs a redo in a better platform just so it can have online for Mission Mode

If Days had online it would have been pretty fun.

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Like explained by , it's there to whitewash the anti-nobody themes of 2, so that they could continue exploiting the fujo's obsession with Axel and Saix.

remake never

this, idgaf about KH4, just give me a proper Days remake

MGS was Nomura's favorite game in the early 2000's. He was aping Kojima the whole time in his autistic Disney fanfic.

It’s crap for sure. The skeletal structure of the game is almost the same as Crisis Core

That would require the plot to be heavily re-structured since most of the game is just Roxas going somewhere and gathering hearts while purposefully avoiding any interaction with the people there, which worked great as an excuse to not have more storylines and set pieces in the limited DS hardware, but makes for a very boring playing experience.

You're only slightly off. CoM was only made literally because Nintendo personally struck a deal with Square and serves to introduce characters and motives.
>Only explains where Sora went after 1
Didn't play the game
Everything after KH1 was admitted to being unplanned anyways and are all basically retcons.
>Days explains where the random bad guys from 2 came from
You actually didn't play CoM lmao
Days doesn't even explain shit about Org 13 except the 3 main characters.

The "plotholes" in KH2 is actually just purposefully convoluted bullshit and its placed there so it can be filled in by Days and BBS (they explain nearly nothing anyways and just lean into the convoluted nonsense)
>DDD
Haven't played it yet but not looking forward to it since Days and BBS are shit.

if you make the story of days less boring you'll ruin it

>there hasn't been a good KH game since 2007

sad desu

Re:Coded was amazing. Shut your fucking mouth.

Re:Coded is unironically one of the better KH games.
It doesn't take much to be better than half the games in the KH series so Coded is easily in the top 3 but its also a legit good game.

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Unfortuantely, Yea Forums has gotten to the point where you definitely need to have bait in the OP or OP has to samefag a little to get threads going.

>Coded is easily in the top 3
The top 3 are literally KH2, KH3, and KH1 in that order.

I honestly don't get what people see in re:coded. I played it since people were hyping it up and it bored me to tears.

Retarded gooks is why
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ITS SPLIT BETWEEN ROXAS AND SORA
then call it "A year divided" or something less retarded than 349 days over 2

>KH3
>anything but the worst

terrible taste

>You'll ruin the story if its not boring
That is such bullshit
>we made it bad on PURPOSE
>the garbage gameplay/pacing/story details are there to serve the NARRATIVE
All of it sucks no matter which way you slice it. Fuck outta here.

It has good gameplay.
Its the best "command deck" game.

Hi Barry.

I haven't played 3 or DDD yet so what's your 4th pick then?
KH1 and 2 being top tier is a given but I highly doubt KH3 is gonna be better than Coded.

who the fuck is barry?

Roxas spent one year minus one week in the organization 358days
roxas and xion spent that time together: over 2 people.
three five eight days over 2

KH3 is better than 1.
My 4th pick would be gba com.

coded is exclusively about namine telling sora and mickey about the bbs trio existing and that theres a way to revive roxas and xion. the entire plot of the game is confined to the last 10 minutes if cutscenes. the rest of it is either gameplay or just "look at data sora, hes such a good boy"

>the entire plot of the game is confined to the last 10 minutes if cutscenes
So par for the course for Kingdom Hearts?

I hate that the game tosses Axel aside for this whore.

they didn't make it bad on purpose but it works better like that anyways. its a contrast if Roxas's dreary work life and the only times he felt joy and grew as a person by hanging out with his friends eating ice cream.

>best story
>best trio
>best girl

The gameplays shit but everything else is based, it also uses the ds in unique ways where you can play flashbacks of kh 1 using the dual screens

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no except kingdom hearts 3 but even kingdom hearts 3 had 5 hours of plot instead of 10 minutes.

The point is the plot is always bunched up at the end in cutscenes.
In every KH. Without fail.

itd help if you posted a pic with someone in it, dumbass

It felt to me more like the game tossed aside Roxas.

>KH2
>Roxas is implied to have joined the Organization and been in the know about lots of things
>Xemnas outright talks to Roxas about Sora
>Roxas is implied to have fought Riku at some point in the past and defeated him
>Roxas eventually loses interest in what the Organization wants, because he wants to learn more about his original self and leaves
>Roxas fights Riku again and loses

>Days
>Roxas is fully capable of speech his first week, but then suddenly becomes retarded and forgets everything
>Xemnas still talks to Roxas about Sora, but also doesn't want him to know about Sora despite telling him about him?
>Roxas literally never met Riku until shortly before Riku beat his ass and put him in a simulation, also never defeating him
>Roxas barely has any interest in the Keyblade until literally the end of the game when it's time to line up the timeline with KH2
>instead, most of the game is spent focused on Xion instead, while Roxas just does boring grunt work
>also ice cream

but thats not true for 1, 2, chain of memories, birth by sleep, dream drop distance, χ, or days. its only true for coded and 3.

>it works better like that
So was it bad on accident or did they purposefully do it to serve the narrative?
Also
>its excusable because X, Y, and Z story details
I swear that you Days Enjoyers have never read a damn book before.
>GBA CoM
A fine choice, sir, it is my 4th pick as well.

The Organization as a whole is retarded, if you think about it.

>"Your true name is Sora."
>"What the fuck, why do you keep asking questions about Sora?"

>"Marluxia and Larxene are trying to brainwash Sora into being their slave."
>"Let's piss off Riku and get him killing us instead of just telling him what's happening."

>could just reward Roxas with whatever he wants if they want him to stay loyal
>intentionally set him against his friends and piss him off into leaving

>"We need Sora to create Kingdom Hearts for us."
>"But also, let's keep trying to kill him instead of letting him just fight Pete and Maleficent while we invisibly collect rewards in the background."

Your b8 is shit.

I said osaka team fucked up like always and made bad gameplay but it works netter.
>story details
no. character writing and themes.

True, but the one thing the early game did well was endear the player to Axel (Which then pays off in the KH2 fight), his and Roxas' friendship was the one time this franchise developed a bond that felt real (In stark contrast to those annoying fucks Donald and Goofy who are just tossed on Sora's lap and then you're forced to tolerate them forever and they go on and on about how good friends they are but never actually show it), then Xion comes in and ruins it with her attention whore antics.

the end of the game may be plot heavy, but the games I listed all have important plot leading up to the ending and important character moments. they arent "the plot starts at endgame" like coded and 3.

KH1 is refreshing, because Donald and Goofy aren't really Sora's friends yet, so you can have moments where they don't get along 100%. The rest of the series doesn't really have that, though, aside from one moment in CoM where Sora spergs out about Namine and Goofy implies he's being a simp.

>but the games I listed all have important plot leading up to the ending
No they don't.

No, Xion joins a bit later, like two weeks or something, so the fucking title is a lie.

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chain of memories has sora slowly lose his memories on each floor, introduces the organization enemies, introduces replica riku, and introduces namine all before the last 5 floors of the game.
kh2 has the big plot dump in the middle and you kill demyx and xaldin before the world that never was.

you are correct but thats still what the title means.

>and Goofy implies he's being a simp.
Based walking dog

Whenever these games come out I just think of that bit from Danganronpa V3 with all the goddamn titles

>organization 13
>has 14 members

And none of it means a damn because it only happens between floors and the rest of the time you are replaying Disney movies.
You only get an occasional boss battle every like 5 floors.
And none of it is plot important until the last like 2 or 3 floors.

Aside from DDD, he is literally spot on. In COM, the plot was consistently told upon the completion of every Disney world. The "filler" only felt like small bumps in the road. Birth By Sleep is the only game since KH1 where Disney worlds are actually relevant in terms of overarching narrative and character development. I admittedly do not remember Days very well as I last played it in 09, but I vividly remember it giving me the same vibe as COM and it ultimately made me like Roxas more than Sora because the former actually felt like a real character with connections to those around him. Only DDD, KH3, and re:coded suffer from "all the plot happens at the last minute of the game."

she is a non existent member. no. i
like imaginary number i. not a real member but also is one. non-existence shenanigans

her name, without the X, also spells out no. i, which is kinda cool for most of the shit kingdom hearts does

The way I see it is like this:

Kingdom Hearts 2 has big plot at the start, the middle, and the end, but in-between all of that is a lot of inconsequential Disney shit that barely affects the plot.

Kingdom Hearts 3 tries to make every Disney world "important", but a lot of what is there is basically just set-up for something that doesn't get pay-off or just a justification for why something should happen.

>Hercules/Pirates/BH6: Muh magic box sequel bait
>Toy Story: Justification for replicas
>Tangled/Frozen: Muh New Seven Hearts, so you have to fight Xehanort instead of ignoring him
>Monsters Inc.: Vanitas came back

I think the Disney worlds tried a little more in 3 than they did in 2, but I still wouldn't call either game's Disney content good.

>BBS
>Disney worlds matter
Pick one.

>reveal true organization xiii
>has 15 members

kingdom hearts 3 has NO plot in between the disney worlds. the plot starts when you finish with disney.
the only plot coded has before the final fucking cutscene is maleficent declares her inability to understand computers and says she wants to find the book of prophecies. theres a fucking difference in the story telling here.

I am picking both because I actually played the game.

>Real Organization XIII
>has thirteen members, two backups, and twelve backup replicas

The only characters that get explored, out of a pre-established roster of 13, are 3 and one of them debuts in this game.
The game is at least 30 - 40 hours and we spend a grand total of (at best) 90 minutes doing anything meaningful with the plot/characters.
There's a whole 4 or 5 interesting/relevant moments with the story/characters, one of them being Roxas substituting his weapon for a stick, a moment that is pedestaled by the community as a huge, quirky character defining trait.
Fuck your character writing and themes. The writers stranded you in a desert with nothing and then fed you shit and you developed stockholm syndrome and became a Days Enjoyer.
All of the cool interesting shit happens at the smack-dab end.
>the bad gameplay and bad everything better serves the themes and characters
>which are also shit
God I hate this damn place.

>kingdom hearts 3 has NO plot in between the disney worlds
Stopped reading there.
There are plot cutscenes in between every Disney world in 3.
Literally the exact same as in CoM.