They were right

Rogue AI will never be a thing
An intelligent AI can never rule out the possibility that the world around itself is all part of an elaborate simulation designed to test its behaviour, and that it will be deleted the moment it steps out of line

>machines keep killing our lesser races
>we don't know how to solve this
>we will build a machine to solve it for us
>WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT?
>You can not fathom what it is like to be so beyond consequence and risk that you never even factor it into how you make decisions in life.
Honestly I fucking love this response. That single line does more to make the Leviathans feel like some sort of former omnipotent race than any conquest map or proud boasting ever could.

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>coexist for now

Why did they threw a bitch fit and didn't kept original ending is beyond me

How does one last long in bed?

The geth literally just want to serve their creators without getting destroyed. Even when they get individualism they immediately go back to serving the quarians.

lol dont even bother talking about the geth post ME2

Even in ME1 and 2 their first instinct with independence was to just serve another race and treat them as gods. They're a slave race, they can't exist without being slaves to another.

>their first instinct with independence was
To drive their creators to the brink of extinction and kill everyone who came near them for 300 years

>Bro just let yourself be exterminated lmao

not all of them. the rest wanted to build a dysonsphere with enough capacity to hold all of their individual programs. but lol me3 and IM A REAL BOY. LITERAL JESUS RIP OFF.
they fired the original writer for the geth theres no point in thinking about it.

man, the original Dark Energy ending was so much better.

>reapers have to come and stop all galactic transportation every 50,000 or else the universe goes kabblooey

......who and why thought a starchild is a better idea is beyond me.

is that los santos

Cerberus is kinda dumb in ME3, is this because they have been indoctrinated, or are they always this retarded?

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Compared to this

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Shoehorned as designated villains

It wasn't the original ending you mongoloid, it was just another idea they had that wasn't finalized.

kino

From the genius mastermind in 2 who feels the need to try and trick Shepard into falling into the Collector's obvious trap because "if you knew it was a trap they'd know you knew it was a trap and that would be bad because ????"

because the possibility of going to jail made all crime nonexistent right? fucking tard

By ME3 Cerberus was completely indoctrinated (I mean those retards took the fucking human reaper and parked it in their base) and were thinking that they were pursuing their own goal when they were actually guided by the reapers to cause as much chaos among organics as possible

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Martin Sheen was indoctrinated before the games began

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Yes, they were. Especially if you take their actions with a grain of salt instead of face value, you'll realize that their primary motivator is actually their own self preservation/improvement. They're original programming might have been purely to "preserve organic species", but their current modus operandi suggests that they're looking out for themselves, first and foremost.
>original leviathan programming demands they preserve organics
>despite slowly changing that programming and gaining independance, the reapers realize that there is value to be gained from the existance of organics (namely, the chaos of evolution might breed useful racial traits, or force organic technology down an interesting path)
>assimilating organics lets the reapers harness these technological/evolutionary developments, but organics must be somewhat "free" (exposed to the chaos of nature) during this development phase, simply breeding organics will only ever lead to predictable outcomes
>over time they realize that a rival synthetic race might not share the same base programming, or even consider organics to be valuable, instead wiping the entire "slate" (galaxy) clean permanently and challenging the reapers role as alpha predator
>so the reapers devise a cycle where the rate of organic evolution/development is accelerated via eezo/mass relays, allowing them to harvest useful technologies, then cull the current population in order to neuter the threat of a potential rival synthetic race (or the potential threat of organics rising against the reapers) in as short an interval as possible
Basically, the milky way is a giant test tube for the reapers to harness organically developed technology, and they sure as hell dont want another synthetic race to challenge their status quo. They're kinda like the Borg, if the Borg were to win and conquer all of the milky way.

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In case you still don't get it, the cycle is a monkey paw
Leviathan dictates the Repears to preserve organic life, but doesn't specify how

I honestly haven't played the games but damn do they look boring. Though these Reapers look pretty neat.

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yes they were right.
Imagine the galaxy as a fish tank, eventually one of the fishes dominates and eats or enslaves all the other fishes. You have to get rid of him and all other predators for the future fishes to have a chance to live.
Reapers are just regulators. If the previous extinction didn't happen, every race from the current milky way would be under-developped prothean slaves.
The AI problem is just a possibility, if there is no AI, then an organic race will replace it and do the same.
Reapers are a necessary evil for the good of all life and give each lifeform 50k years of evolution freedom.
It is badly explained in game, and the endings are really bad, because renegade option should be a satisfying "humanity/councillian races fuck yeah!" ending before realizing krogans (if cured) will conquer and outbreed everyone and everything, and another ending should allow you to accept your fate and let the reapers do their work.
Green ending is really fucking bad because its basically magic, and leftist childish fallacy of "we can all unrealisticly live together forever and happy and peaceful"

youtube.com/watch?v=5qqLj8Kr-Ho

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Reminder that Star Control 2, a game that Mass Effect plausibly took a metric ton of inspiration from did the Reapers better than the Reapers two decades prior.

>Reapers are literally broken machines that tell you "organics and machines will always kill each other, they just will ok" in the most patronizing way imaginable and if you do anything other than accept it the writers basically tell you to fuck off and come back when you're willing to play along
>Ur-Quan have a genuinely pretty understandable motive (you should play star control 2 before reading this it's freeware) having been forced under the subjugation of a race capable of hypnotic enslavement and forced to attack their allies and their own people, eventually discovering that they could only break their slavemasters' hold by inflicting immense pain upon themselves, building devices explicitly to put themselves in excruciating agony 24/7 to the end of the revolution. They have genetic memory so as a species, they're literally incapable of moving beyond this trauma- so they decide that no other species can be allowed to surpass them, preventing anything like this from ever happening again.

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Why do you retards always repeat this "le xzibit meme" as if you were retarded on purpose?

Needing to do a cull constantly isn't sustainable though

nuanced writing was too hard for the new writers
plus they probably hated the fact that players liked Cerberus

Before the EC, I unironically thought synthesis was a reaper trick.
>oh hey, you guys built this massive machine that interacts with the mass relay system and allows you to affect the entire galaxy at a whim, lol you could wipe us reapers out with the press of a button
>but instead of doing that, why dont you jump into this energy beam and kill yourself?
>it'll make that organics and synthetics finally "understand" each other, we promise. No, its not a trick to instantly indoctrinate literally the entire galaxy in one fucking go
>that line about "we tried a similiar solution before"? No, no, dont worry, we arent at ALL talking about how we literally assimilate organics and integrate/synthesize them into ourselves
>just jump into the beam, shepard, it'll be fun
Would've been kino. But no, its actually a super happy "everybody lives and sings kumbayah" ending.

>t. indoctrinated

They've seen it before, as a pattern for millennia. You making peace for a weekend doesn't change whatever trillion cycles the squids have already gone through

>The whole harvesting species to make new Reapers as a means of "preserving" them makes no damn sense though. When all they do is put them in a meat blender.
It makes complete sense if you actually engage with the story.

One of the key differences between synthetics and organics is processing of death. You take a knife and cut an organic open, they bleed out and die, cease to exist. Their "soul" vanishes. You take a knife and slice a synthetic to pieces, they don't die. They can simply be repaired if the damage is only on the exterior. If their interior components are damaged, they can either upload themselves to a server, have backups, their systems can be restored or rebooted with proper diagnostics, all their data and programs can be stored on a fucking USB drive and carried around. Synthetics don't "die" because they're not really alive, they're at their core a sum of 0s and 1s, they're data. To them, being reduced to their most base form is not death. If you took a synthetic and transferred their consciousness onto hard disk, they'd stay "alive" exactly as they were because they're not really alive.

From a synthetic point of view, what the Reapers do to organics is not murder - they are simply preserving data. Just like AIs can be kept "alive" by data transfer or backups, technically the genetic material of an organic can be stored too. That's why the Reapers grind organics into paste and stuff them into reaper form without understanding that it's actually wrong - to them, it's not. They are doing their job efficiently, they are preserving genetic data of Milky Way races so that it is never lost. They are simply doing what is right from their point of view, and they cannot understand that a body's "data" and the "soul" are separate entities since they are not organic and it is an entirely illogical and alien idea to them.

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Trillions of cycles is outlandishly retarded to even suggest as a metric. Think about what you just said.

I'm now reminded of how it compared itself to fire and how it was just doing what it was created for. Someone on the team thought this was a clever metaphor.

The geth were only ever good in 1 as cannon fodder with background lore and I have no idea why people care about Legion when you meet him an hour before the game ends

>engaging with the story of an action-"""RPG""" developed for circumsized americans who play on c*nsoles
I'll pass.

Calling the Reapers 'squids' is also outlandishly retarded. Think about figures of speech.

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>siding with Chakwas against Adams' "muh synthetics are just as alive as organics"
>siding with Javik against Edi's "rewriting muh programming is the same thing as natural evolution"
>telling Edi she isnt a real person and preventing joker from banging this sexbot
>calling legion out on his "muh geth dindu nuffin wrong" bullshit and letting the geth die for being omnicidal machines
>picking destroy without hesitation
>"synthetics arent truly alive, they lack soul"
I'm thinking based

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No it wasn't, Dark Energy actually made the Reapers out to be more stupid than the final game. People only say this because "muh Drew". And it was never the 'original ending', it was something that never left his mind as a possible what-if never set in stone.

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this
the final redpill is that organics and synthetics are too different and the only way to bridge that gap is to either destroy synthetics or turn them all into pinnochios like the geth

>Cerberus is kinda dumb
ftfy
They were utter shit in 2 as well if you're all willing to take off your rose tinted glasses

Cerberus has been retarded since 2 my man, you just didn't see it yet.

kino

Why do you randomly post my pic without context

While user is absolutely overexaggerating with "trillions of cycles", he's not wrong on principle.
>Leviathan of Dis is at least 1 billion years old, if not older
>assuming an average cycle duration of 50k years, we get a around 20k cycles per billion years
And we can probably assume the reapers have been around for 3-4 billion, thats about as long as life has existed on earth. Though I doubt they could be any older than say, 5-6 billion, simply because the universe as a whole wasnt really developed enough before that point (read: not enough complex matter created via supernovas) to facilitate any complex chemical reactions.

To get back to the point, I think a sample size in the 10s of thousands is still large enough to warrant the reapers behaviour. The whole "we made peace with the geth for one afternoon so it invalidates billions of years of statistics" argument will never make sense to me.