Say it

You will never be a woman, Yasu.

I don't know how to say this without sounding like a cunt, but I think it's true, so I'll just say it:

Visual Novels (excluding dating sims, nukige, or other shit made explicitly for cooming) seem to play on the fact that most weebs are dumb as fuck. They're not well read, so when they come across otherwise juvenile crap like Umineko, it blows their minds.

Umineko makes almost no use of the video game medium, it's more of a "kinetic novel" than a visual novel given the lack of choices, so it's functionally just a book. But given that it's not a book, let alone a critically acclaimed one or a best seller, it's evident that it doesn't really have literary merit.

So then what's the point? Well, there isn't one. It's just a mediocre non-book. Shit like this (Nier: Automata also comes to mind) is a way for weebs to feel like intellectual grown ups because it's a step up above the high school harem booba battle shounen content they usually engage with. Yes, Umineko is better than literal garbage like F/SN or Grisaia, but that doesn't make it unique or otherwise important. It's trash to compared to actual literature, so at the end of the day it's just pulp with anime drawings to entice weebs. It's a weeb thing, ergo weebs think it's fantastic and important.

It's really funny, because so many of the people I know who fellate Umineko (the ones who tricked me into reading it), would never deign to read it it was presented as an book. They'd probably laugh it off as a Sherlock Holmes rip off for 16 year old girls.

Weeb shit + the slightest scintilla of intellectual merit = complete and total weeb reverence.

Nier: Automata is a great example. The weebs playing it are uneducated and have literally no knowledge of philosophy outside of what they've picked up through pop-cultural osmosis. So when Taro introduces these laughable, baby-brain Philosophy 101 concepts in the most basic ways possible, they think they're experiencing something truly profound.

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BEATRRRRRRRRRRICHE

We get it you have big brain, good job, want a pin? Fuck off.

I didn't understand who the culprit was when I finished so I had to look it up online
I also realized magic scenes aren't actually real only 2 chapters after they explicitly told you

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You are smarter than the average reader

Uuuuu-uuuu uuuu uuuuuuu

For uuuu

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_isn't_real

SAY IT AIN'T SO
I WILL NOT GO
TURN THE LIGHTS OFF
CARRY ME HOME
nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah
youtube.com/watch?v=obVyfnxL6BI

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I need more lewd pictures of aunts

I'm gay and I love my friend but he's definitely straight so I have to suppress it and it's ruining me.

>UUUUUUUUUUU-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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TRANNY

it.

Well said. I'd also personally extend this sentiment to most shonenshit as well.

"shonenshit" is made for literal teenagers you mong. It's supposed to appeal to 14 years old Jim.

OH DESIRE

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WGHERE THE FCUK IS CICONA PHASE TWO RJUKISHI

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>So when Taro introduces these laughable, baby-brain Philosophy 101 concepts in the most basic ways possible
Mate it is just run of the mill Camus. Automata doesn't try to blow any minds, but it's also not laughably basic. You're just as bad for downplaying what is there as those you decry for praising what is not.
Average things exist in this world. It's perfectly serviceable and does its job. Just because you think it's overrated is no good reason to knee-jerk and underrate it in retaliation.

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Beato, this pasta isn't authentic Italian. You need to go a few generations back.

Dude, I just like weird, surreal, nonsensical shit. Who told you this was intellectual in any way? It's a fucking VN where the characters have gloves for hands, the seven deadly sins are waifus and servants use energy wrist blades. It just becomes dumber and dumber as more characters are added. Not to mention the weird obsession that japs have with Alice in Wonderland (What's up with that?). Most of the episodes are filled with inconsequential bullshit that leads nowhere, puzzles that make no sense unless you already knew the answer or had very specific details in mind. Most of it is forgettable. So much so that I never read E8, and now I don't recall half the shit that happened before that. Just read the manga and have a good time, the meta elements aren't deep enough or smart enough to justify the VN. At least the music is pretty good.

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Magic is real, trickfags are contrarians

A TOAST TO JOBBERS!

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>Not to mention the weird obsession that japs have with Alice in Wonderland (What's up with that?)
Off the top of my head
>Uuuoooooh
>Cute white blonde girl
>Escaping into a magical world

>These replies
Damn this is some good pasta

These any good?

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Kek this is not entry level
Besides that, I can only vouch for Kara no Shoujo and Dies Irae

small.... bombaas.....

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I'll definitely get to Kara no Shoujo because of this screenshot

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That's from the second game. Overall improvment from the first one, but you have to play both in order to witness the true suffering that is Kara no Shoujo. Be sure to use a guide for the first, otherwise you are fucked.
Also I am blind, there is Demonbane and Rose Guns Days on that chart, those are good too.

I kinda dislike that a guide is necessary for some VNs, cause the choices can be trivial or how to get a route can be confusing for me, especially with the affection system in FMD Muramasa.

That said I'll play it blind then use a guide if I'm confused

You'll understand why I said that, I started that way too. That said, It's a great story.

This is stupid. How could they detonate?

I unironically think the best visual novels are miles above video games and every other medium in terms of narrative.

I don't love visual novels, but no game gave me the feelings that Fate or KS elicit in you.
Maybe it's the slow pacing of VNs where you really feel embedded in the world and character interactions without random battles getting in the way.

Video games can have such systems, but they need to figure out how to integrate it into narrative better.

The biggest advantage VNs have over videogames is it's vast amount of text and the way routes work

its stockholm syndrome and cheap emotional bait

Through bomb ignition mechanism X; I refuse to explain.

No it's because VNs pour more effort into spoonfeeding retards like you so that you can buy into their bullshit completely like a little weakwilled brainwashed beta you are

I agree that vns can be great

I found Muramasas system pretty simple once you got the gist of it. The game really makes you think during the first chapters and when the split happens you should understand why it happens unless you weren't paying attention.

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Beato is a man
Oh my GOD Beato is a man :(

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When can somebody make a pasta with the Harry Potter envelope marking template

I stopped watching anime and started reading VNs/manga exclusively. VNs by design allow for way more characterization and if you're into that romcom stuff I guess you'll see an actual payoff instead of blueballing

Sacred ointment. Now.

Had no idea what was going
No clue as to who the culprit was
Love Furudo Erika
Love Deep Blue Jeer
youtube.com/watch?v=kcTxd5qQChw

Who the fuck wrote those 40 minute DBZ witch fight scenes in Umineko?

Tranny Game. Beatrice is a tranny.

The mystery itself ended up being pretty good, which is a giant shame since it's buried in endless filler and bullshit made with the express purpose to fuck with the reader while the author engages in self-fellatio.
Guy seriously needed an editor to trim the garbage and keep his ego in check.

yeah i just read now. anime is so shit most of the time and i find the internal thoughts of characters in a story the most interesting part, in anime you don't get any of that.

So wait what is real and what isn't
Why is stuff being presented in the way that it is

Goats making up stories about what happen on the island

I did understand it. I jus didn't know that I was supposed to kill Ichijo at the race chapter and make Otori survive to get a route, also the choices before the Ginseigo fight in the Ichijou Hero route were pretty stupid, the one where masamune is your tsurugi.

i dont think this is entry level, afaik that first one is untranslated

Huh, me too. Though right now it's exclusively manga because I have a few VNs in my backlog and can never pick which one to read for more than a few hours

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half the games in that list are, and some of them got translated only recently, after this troll chart was made I assume