STR chads WON

basically nothing since the thing that is broken already staggers retardedly WASN'T EVEN TOUCHED BABY. ONE THING I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER HOW HARD I TRY

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>STR isn't the worst build anymore
Welp, time to switch to arcane build then

>buff int right after my spellsword run
>nerf bleed/madness right before my arcane/fai run
K then.

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Frost is untouched bro. We frost chads always win.

now no one will beat the game

>Incantation animation bug still works
LOL

r u a girl

you will never beat the game

>Bloodhound step unchanged
>Rivers of Skill unnerfed
>Bleed still stuns out of rolls but lmao its okay because the stun is smaller?
>Seppuku unchanged. Still one hit full bleed procs.
Cool they fixed Carian bug and instant killing people. Frenzied Burst cant stunlock either I guess. Fixed the bugs but didnt touch anything that was ruining the balance.

Madness build here, I am very happy with these changes. Every time I tried to setup with Frenzied Burst and the host just dropped dead instead, I felt absolutely disgusting. It really sucked all the fun away from invading. Inescapable Frenzy was also a bug so I can't complain about that being fixed. I also never used the Dragon seal so that nerf didn't really affect me at all. But why the hell was Howl nerfed? That spell was already utterly useless.

I always had faiththat incantations would be buffed eventually.

What is the strength weapon equivalent to moonveil / RoB?

powerstance jump attack

Any str weapon with beast roar slapped on it

They buffed the huge swords so they're not absolute dogshit, but are they good yet? Are they good enough to use light attacks or is the jump attack spam still the way to go due to stagger? Might try a STR/FTH since my current FTH run is so broken early game.

They feel genuinely playable now
You're not forced to spam jump attacks

>jump attack
R1/2 do good damage now and have very quick speed/recovery. Jump attacks comparatively don't do much more now but leave you totally vulnerable as they didn't get the same speed changes. Jumps were never that good, they were just the only workable thing STR had.

Make a greatbow character please

what are you talking about, absolutely clueless.

PVP ruins everything.

holy based.
bring back the drop kick and throw in a hoarah loux grab while youre at it.

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>No actual martial art based skills
>Fist weapons are the same dumb flailing basic bitch boxing 101 animations at best.
>Actually have some cool weapon designs for fists this time around but they never feel cool.

Give me a stance ash of war with a unique move for all 4 buttons to followup with and make two handing it not having a fucking block animation. I don't even remember DaS3 having a block when you two handed cestus i don't think it did it has some L1 moves instead.

I'm confused, I thought they were supposed to have buffed the speed of all colossals? I tried the Treespear and it's the exact same, even the recovery.

Colossal means Colossal, not great spears/hammers etc. They still suck lol

you call that puny thing a colossal?
colossal is colossal sword and colossal weapons class. great spears are not considered colossal.

>Nerfed Madness
Was madness really that much of an issue in PVP? I've probably only encountered it once and when I tried the grab spell it was so shit that I just wrote of the entire attribute as a meme purely for lore purposes.

It was all they had before the patch for some types of colossal weapons. Hammers in general still have a miserable colossal moveset. Try doing even a uncharged R2 against any boss that isn't one of the easiest ones or riposte status. The R1s still feel bad. But yeah why do anything else when jumping L1s do 1.5-2k damage with just the jump talisman/armor on let alone buffs and the jump L1s are still about as fast in recovery as the buffed R1s let alone the pre patch ones.

great spears already benefited a lot from being able to turtle, and they actually buffed the serpent hunter lmao

YEAH now you just spam crouch poke ad infinitum

Does it say colossal?
No? then it's not colossal.

pretty much only frenzied burst. dual vykes was strong but not that bad. because of how fromsoft's latency is if you get a "phantom hit" on someone, meaning you hit them on your screen but not yours, it still applies status effects. because of how arcane scaling worked with dragon seal you could 1 hit madness with frenzied burst at extremely high range even if they dodged it. which would lead up into a chain of full frenzied burst for essentially a high range very hard to dodge instakill

How viable/fun are str/fth builds?
Might try a second playthrough with this. Preferably making a shield tank.

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>They removed the stagger
Nope

lot of incants got buffs to cast speed, recovery, damage and fp consumption
too bad most useful ones are locked behind late game areas

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FromDrones are fucking laughable. They always act like battered house wives defending a Shitbull when someone criticizes the game. But if the game was perfect why the fuck would they need to update it?

>carian retaliation self parry untouched
>instead they nerfed the damage
Well it's not really a retaliation now, is it...

>dung eater set
>rusted anchor
any good ideas for a build revolving around the big daddy aesthetic?

Light attack is usable now without you eating shit for it. Strong is really good too as it charges a hell of a lot faster. You can also guard counter better as they have much better block now.

I have so many fps now. holy based

So how much stronger are colossal now? I’d rather they buff greatswords desu.

>bleed fags REKT
please stop this meme, literally nothing has changed for bleed AT ALL aside from the duration of the BLEED LOSS animation. You'll still get stun locked by RoB's 6 million attacks, you'll still get instabled from dual naginata's, you'll still get chunked hard.
On a side note, how do people feel about Hosts hiding with tongue on?
I have never done the "PvP farming" thing where I get to an unreachable spot, but I do like hiding and I never afk. I don't understand why people get mad at it though, don't you guys want to fight? Me not dying ensures the PvP never ends, and without any faggy "le honorable duel" rules. You just rip and tear until you get ripped and torn, sounds like the ideal host to invade.

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There was an update?
>bleed
Please tell me that only the OP ashes of war were nerfed. Don't touch my blood nagitana please, it's not that op please!

>Bleed fags REKT
Actually, it's broken now. Godskin duo dies instantly with blood loss.

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I stunlock banished knights to death now with Greatsword R1s

the bleed proc is staggering knight enemies in haligtree just fine.

/v just lying as usual.

>>They actually fixed all the problems the game had
Quality is still fucked. Non-magical Weapon Arts still consume FP.

Does MLGS projectiles still miss enemies if not on completely level ground? Is the only way to target elevated/lower enemies with the beam still to freeaim?

Absolutely BASED FIST CHADES
Had an Idea bros, need some input
>Colossal Fist weapon type
>Big fuck off gauntlet that covers the whole arm up to the shoulder
>Like an oversized prosthesis but designed for straight fucking
>Wide swings for R1's
>Elbow pistons like gif related utilized for charged R2's that deal big aftershock damage
>Powerstanced moveset is straight gorilla mode, slow boxing moves and knuckle pounding double hits, reminiscent of dual greatshield slams

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I have nowhere to invade.

>because it actually requires some skill to use it correctly
lol
lmao

thanks, Dark Soul titles had the same problem that the real powerful lightning spells were really for ng+ (which I am not that interested in)

How to bloodfags keep getting away with it?

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typical nukebrain balancing

>Gavel of Haima doesn't feel slow as shit anymore
Based.

bull goat set, even comes with a beard

>>Colossal Fist weapon type
I was sold here user.

>Madness twink fags DESTROYED
except they buffed all Frenzy spells bar two

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He meant a BioShock Big Daddy

well you can get the angel or halo scythe pretty early, and most incants are buffs or damage negation anyway
don't exactly remember when you get discos of light or lightning shit

was already viable, now even more so

>decreased cast speed of spells .05 seconds
>"OMG EVERYTHING IS FIXED OH PLEASE CUM IN MY ASS MIKIZAKI SAN"

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did they fix the pc issues? been waiting on that to get it

>>Faith chads WON
wasn't the dragon communion seal's scaling fucking nerfed along with rot breath? lol.

It bothers me how they never specify how much something has been increased or decreased. Give us some fucking numbers, how hard is it? In Warframe, love or hate the game, the patch notes detail EXACTLY what's being changed for the most part.

>>Bleed fags REKT
How? There were no bleed nerfs.

Are eleonara's poleblade still S tier? Im about to fight the last bosses.

>Fixed a bug that prevented player from inputting consecutive attacks when dual wielding thrusting sword.
I knew this was a bug and almost got gaslighted into thinking it was a feature.

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>Fixed the EAC bypass
>Can't play with mods and have phantoms and bloodstains at the same time
Legit don't understand the reason why. Blocking coop and invasions would be a fine trade-off, but completely requiring 100% compliance with how they intended you to play the game just to see funny ghost man jump off a cliff is fucktarded. Whatever.

This isn't even touching on them adding black bars to Ultrawide resolutions ON PURPOSE to keep things "fair." The game legit will render in Ultrawide, but they slap black bars on it to constrain it to a 16:9 viewport.

Singleplayer games actually benefit from details being obscured from the player hence why things like cast time and frame data aren't available for players to see ingame. It doesn't really matter tho, the wiki will fix it.

i mean big daddy as in the bioshock dude with a diving suit like this user said

dogs.

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this is very interesting to me, because I 100% completely agree with everything in this patch and that's been ocuring for every elden ring patches so far

I still feel like it's not enough though, some spells are still shit because no damages (what the fuck is the point of litany of death? why is elden stars so low damage by default on top of every single late game enemy and bosses having very high holy defense?)

really interested to see how much the colossal weapons were buffed though, I'm expecting it to be in the single number percentages but enough to make them useable against bosses, hopefully at least?

Just happened to have a save where I was about to fight the Draconic Tree Sentinel outside Leyndell in NG+. Lion's Claw with a +24 Heavy Greatsword with just Flame Grant Me Strength as the buff now kills him in 3 casts + 1 riposte, he never even managed to hit me a single time.

>Singleplayer games actually benefit from details being obscured from the player
No the fuck they don't. When it's obscured, you have to test it yourself, or look it up online. Either way you still get the information, but you've wasted your time. The devs could have just told us.

Did they make Int/fai worth it yet?

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