Crystalline Conflict: the OFFICIAL Tier List

Only wowbucks disagree

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Nobody cares about troontasy forteen

if I wanted to play mmo PvP I'd just play an actually good version of it in WoW

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Like pottery

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WHMchads, we just can't stop winning.

Why is BLM so bad in pvp?

not OP but the cast times are way too long. by the time you get a fire off, the enemy team is on you and you have fuck all mobility to do anything about it.

Any Sage mains can explain why these hardstuck Gold1 Sagefags always put their kardia buff on themselves?
Surely it is more useful on a melee or tank.

I don't like how the kit mostly revolves around putting stacks on the enemy, and the way to put those stacks on them is via casting Fire or Blizzard.

Despite the somewhat high TTK, combat in CC revolves around burst so yeah they feel pretty useless without stacks

Why is White SS? I’ve only dabbled in crystal but it doesn’t seem that great

Deepfreeze mage is underrated. The moment you get focused you are fucked though.

WAR and WHM players are delusional as always

Bump Warrior down a peg. It's strong but without proper support it gets absolutely raped by half-decent CC.

DRK should be at least in A

I see, figured as much

WAR dominates below Diamond for sure. Up here people know your gimmick and will take you down fairly quickly. A good PLD at high ranks on the other hand is extremely annoying.

ftfy

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Not necessarily. It should be used on whoever will be taking damage regularly to get the most addersting. Also keeping yourself alive to get off a full cast of Pneuma is important. I tend to put it on tank, because I hang back, but if my team isn't pushing the crystal and it falls to me, I shield myself

>AST in C
I don't like it but its understandable, the lack of hard cc hurts it really bad.
A WHM + AST team is scary however, that shit doesn't die unless someone fucks up really bad, the amount of sustain with dual cast macrocosmos and the lb regen for more whm lasers is a nightmare to play against

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I've been stuck at gold 3 for two days as a DRG. Someone end me.

Gunnies got the fucking Solid Barrel in their mouth rn.

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polymorph excellent at shutting people down
LB overloaded on utility and comes up pretty often
highest HP of all healers too
Given equal skill a team with WHM will win over a team without one every single time

How do I play SGE in PvP? I usually just Kardion a random person, spam Toxikon, try to get Pneuma off then cast Dosis.

RDM/SAM abuser typed this post.

>job that is literally invulnerable when its LB bar is full (not when it's used, just when it's full) is only A tier
>DRG in S when it's objectively worse than SAM and RDM
a retard made this.

>PLD
>S
It's D tier. DRK is A to S in competent hands, but it does suck if the average Hot Topic retard just mashes buttons

GNBsisses... what did we do wrong?

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>job that instantly dies if you stun it in S tier
Lmao, imagine being shit at the game so much that you think DRG is above A tier.

Fixed

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>play DRG
>use LB at full health
>die after 3 seconds in the air
What did they mean by this?

>SCH
>D-Tier
I'm sorry your teams have been retarded.

>people putting monks in high tier
they literally jump in and die while doing no damage what the fuck are you guys talking about

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SCH is detrimental to any team, padding damage by spreading dots doesn't mean shit, keep that in Frontlines.

BRDGods it was supposed to be our time... We give everyone faster limits...

Why is GNB bad?

AST also needs more research into card manipulation, which seems like it's on a global cycle. WHM+AST is already crazy strong, imagine if the WHM is getting an LB every 30 fucking seconds.

You've been playing with shit Monks, a good one can keep a high priority target away from the crystal indefinitely

>d tier B TIER c tier XD xDDD
nobody gives a shit, kill yourselfs.

Need tips on how to play against DRG and SAM and avoid their team wipe instakill LBs

>DRG
So he jumps up from across the screen/behind a wall, do I have to just look for his blue aoe circle before it crashes down?
It comes down too fast to react with safeguard.

>SAM
Not quite sure how his lb works.
Am I supposed to somehow notice he turned on his counter spell first, ignore damaging him during it, therefore I am safe?
There's no visual indication of this.

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tank slot but can't tank

If you see the enemy SAM has LB you simply do not hit them until the bar is gone

>It comes down too fast to react with safeguard
Watch him jump. You have an eternity to react.

There's LB charge indicators in the party list my dude. With DRG you should see it coming from a mile away. SAM is fucked up though because even if you don't attack them a lot of kits have built in AOE and any hit is enough to proc their counter.

>padding damage
That isn't what SCH is for. SCH is for reducing enemy damage and increasing the team's. Unless a team has absolutely insane burst potential and cohesion or enough hard CC to kill the SCH from 100%, any prolonged engagement will go to the team with a SCH.
Reducing the enemy team's damage by 20% and boosting your own by 10% goes a long way when fights start to drag. Not to mention the AOE Purify, constant passive heals, and the extra DoT Healing reduction on the enemy team.

don't you need 3 stacks of Ice on an enemy to Deepfreeze them?

>PLD in S-tier
Fucking how? They are completely dependant on the rest of the team to not suck, their dps is some of the lowest in PvP, they have no burst and half of their kit is either broken or misstranslated. The only thing they are useful for is stalling the crystal since they are surprisingly hard to kill (if the enemy team is uncoordinated)

You can get that off one Blizzard cast using Paradox and Superflare.

Sustained damage class in a burst based gamemode.

If you're having trouble keep tabs on an enemy DRG just mark them with the triangle marker, if it vanishes get away from the fight or guard

>>DRG
Look for him greying out in the enemy list when his LB is up. Get used to looking at the enemy list in general, tracking HP, MP, LB, buffs, etc. is important. Move the enemy list above or below the ally list.
>>SAM
Look for the guard animation, if that fails look for the debuff that pops on you or just use cactbot and make a thing that tells you when Chiten is up, but I wouldn't recommend doing that since it'll stifle your learning. If you're playing a job with a stun/silence/poly you can CC him out of LB on reaction, at least at decent pings.

Literally what's good about it. I spent the first two days on it just because I'm really close to 80, and switching to literally any other class is night and day. Your ult is "lmao just walk away" tier.

Fuck you, I'm sick of getting in matches where 4/5 of the team focuses me anytime I get within 1 mile of the crystal.

>It comes down too fast to react with safeguard.
Is this post a joke?

Don't get mad just because you're a high priority target, just play smarter

explain how to be a good monk

I THINK MAGIC SUCKS

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Just keep abusing your 16k AoE nuke from 5 miles away.

Elusive Jump is your burst starter, if you're unaware. I've barely seen any DRGs doing the right burst rotation but it makes a massive difference.

PLD in CC definitely feels like something that's not a threat, but killing one takes forever so there's little point engaging one on one with a PLD

PLD is pretty much a knowledge check, and you have to adapt more than anyone else depending on the teams on top of having good reaction times for those clutch guardians, too bad your team can throw no matter how much you save them.
But it will always feel great to negate an entire LB stack from the enemy team with one button then turn the game around in a single fight, alas shitters and tooltip readers will always consider it bottom tier sadly
I'm sure it will see more play once it gets figured out, the card buffs aren't bad at all and the 30% dmg from the LB is crazy

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Use an secret ancient Ala Mhigan technique called "Stun that bitch".

>MNK anywhere but the useless bin with RPR
EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING that MNK does NIN does better and without putting itself at risk. If you play MNK, you are literally griefing while pretending that "hey at least I'm not RPR"