Atlus

Pander to a niche within a niche and then do exclusivity deals and traditions to further thin the fans. GET FUCKED!

Fatlus dying a slow death is self inflicted. SEGA merely helped drive the knives in.

Persona 5 is more memorable than all the previous entries in that subfranchise. SMT V is also better and more memorable than the ps2 spin-offs.

Does a separate team work on persona games? Persona 6 shouldve been announced by now right?

> I think I get where he's coming

Contrarianism

Original megaten for the SNES are terrible.

>to further thin the fans.
>Games are more popular than ever
What did he mean by this?

Persona 5 is their best game.

>Re:fantasy is vaporwave
Interesting direction to take that game in

eeeeh kinda, SMT5 does a lot to differentiate from other entries so I get why people'd see it as more memorable
thing is what sets it a part in its semi-open world isn't all too great and still retain a degree of semi-linearity
only taito really makes the most of the open world formula by using the level scaling to push you to do side content that you fancy before actually fighting bosses

Smt iv is way more memorable than nocturne or dds or the raido games tbqh

they are the old hudson
or the new idea factory
unlimited shovelworks
i remember when seeing atlus on the box meant it was worth at least checking the back of the jewel case or box
hard 8 average on their games for many years

DeSu is unmemorable as fuck.

Persona 5 is a passionless product.

I feel like SMT4's tokyo and its OST is really great. Those aspects make the game really memorable but I don't really think what the game does outside of that is all too interesting.

>Etrian is dead
Until further news about getting cancelled, Next is happening
>Trauma center is dead
No way to have it on non-ds consoles anyway. It was a good run
>Re:fantasy is vaporwave
People said that about SMT5 too.
>Megaten hasn't been good since 2009
Be honest, you just made the thread to bait people into dicussing that, right?
4 is great and 5 is good

They are far from their peak, but they still got some bullets in their cylinder

Disagree on persona 5
Agree on smt V

I did not like p5s characters at all, and the storyline was lame even for persona

Should release everything on pc

100% this

P4 male characters are unlikable as fuck, 3 and backwards have shit gameplay.

You're right about Raidou, Raidou 1 is pretty shit, an absolute slog to play.
DDS and Nocturne though, nah.

I like it better than 4 tbqh.

3 was faggy but it was all love
4 was still pretty decent even if it leaned too heavy on aping 2's story tone setting and plot
5 is the only persona game I couldn't bring myself to complete, and that's as an autist who played FES and Golden to 100%
It's a shame too because it has strong visuals, which is a first for the series, seemed the care stopped there though.
>the whole protag plot
Neutered version of 2:EP

>Re:fantasy is vaporwave
A E S T H E T I C

Random encounters are a shit mechanic and I'm tired of pretending they are not.

>No trauma center sequel in over a decade
The switch and wiiu have touchscreens you fucking incompetent hacks.

I like Kanji in P4, don't necessarily care for the rest of the male cast.
I like Dojima but its moreso the depiction of his family dynamic with Nanako which is interesting as opposed to him as an independent character.

P3's combat being shit is overexaggerated and the game wouldn't have that reputation if the game gave you all tactics from the outset and people actually learned how to use them.
The only wacky thing with P3's AI are the thresholds of which it decides to use different tiers/multitarget
P2 and P1 do play like shit though.

>What went wrong?
You did.

>The only wacky thing with P3's AI are the thresholds of which it decides to use different tiers/multitarget
Fuck meant to specify this on healing skills

rich kid in the trash,the sexual confusion,the blonde delinquent, the talking cat , the artist and the nicest guy/complete psycho you'll ever meet.

I prefer the persona 3 cast if i'm being honest.

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literally the opposite, pure soul

p2 plays fine, its just more megaten then friend simulator, and the game is better for it

>3 and backwards have shit gameplay.
I guess you like doing the all-out-attack over and over and over and over and over and over again every battle for 100 hours. 5's gameplay drives me fucking crazy, and I'll never understand why anyone thinks it's an improvement. At least Persona 4 had decent balancing and enemy design.

Oh no, P3 combat is alright but the gigantic autogenerated dungeon is ass.

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P2 combat is way too slow and way too repetitive. Just spam fusion spells on loop.
It's mainly an issue with the PSP versions but the PSX versions are still mind numbing despite requiring a tad more brain power.

it's a straight line most of time, just like p4.

>09
The redux fixes pretty much every issue Strange Journey has. Plus it turns Jimenez into Junpei

Yeah sure, P3 cast is way better but Yusuke alone is more enjoyable than the entirety of the P4 cast.

You can just refuse the All out attack prompt, you know? Also you can put the game on hard.

Have we seriously still not heard ANYTHING about re;fantasy?

>Shittier art
>Broken commander skills
>Field saves that completely remove any tension from encounters since you can just save anywhere and reload
>2/3 of the new endings are le goody golden endings that botch the tone of the original endings

I know, I am defending P5 here.

Yeah but can Yusuke do THIS

youtu.be/ddXM6HX1PgU?t=33

etrian odyssey is dead OP

>>Shittier art
It's the same, stop looking at straws
>>Broken commander skills
Don't use them
>>Field saves that completely remove any tension from encounters since you can just save anywhere and reload
Don't use them
/3 of the new endings are le goody golden endings that botch the tone of the original endings
Just get one of the old endings.

Just gentle reminders it exists I think.
I don't hate the games Atlus has put out as of late but I won't lie that they feel a bit stale.
I'm really interested in seeing them actually try something new so I hope it shows up soon.

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>P5/R were kino
>13 Sentinels was kino
>SMT V was kino
>SH2 will be kino
>Somehow Atlus is dead
lol. lmao even.

I'd say, comparatively to where they land in the plot
Yosuke < Ryuji
Kanji > Yusuke
Teddie > Morgana
but overall
Kanji > Yusuke > Ryuji > Yosuke > Teddie > Morgana

p3 and on are just spamming the cartoon dustpile-up
p2 has actual shit to do beyond all-inning every time you hit the telegraphed weakness

>Teddie > Morgana

That's the only one that matters

Devil survivor was 2010 so you're wrong

3 was fucking retarded, you're not fooling anyone. Every TMS was better than whatever the fuck P3 was.

>>Broken commander skills
>>Field saves that completely remove any tension from encounters since you can just save anywhere and reload
damn, no wonder I thought the game was so good, they fixed most of the autistic tediousness

>the switch
No, it doesn't
>b-but while undocked...
Doesnt matter, it need to work while docked too.
The wii/ds era is sadly gone

P5 was a labor of love, and I won't hear otherwise. It's the game that got me into MegaTen. I've played most of them now, and P5 is still my favorite.

I loved P5R's third semester. 13S has one of the best narratives I've experienced in a video game.
I wouldn't go that far for SMT5, but its not really shit either, its just okay, pretty indifferent to it.
SH2 isn't even out yet, best to wait and actually play it before deciding one way or the other.

Both of them are honestly not that big of a deal.

>Devil zzzurvivor

What's with all the Atlus hate lately?

The all out attack is the best thing you have in your arsenal, and it's really fucking easy to do, and the game is so poorly balanced in your favor that there's literally never any reason to negotiate for items instead, making that whole mechanic useless. In Persona 3 and 4 it was a reward for properly strategizing, but in 5 it's just handed to you. It's like they wanted the player to be able to do all the flashy cool stuff more often. The cut-ins are another example, with how they happen basically every time you hit a weakness instead of just sometimes. My point is that it's poorly balanced, and "just don't use it" is the classic dumb argument for poor balancing.

>hard mode
This game is extremely easy on every difficulty setting

user it takes one google search to fact check yourself

Based actual megaten enjoyer. The game is one of the best in the franchise.

>2/3 endings are shit
All three of the new endings are good.
The new neutral ending is totally cool and badass. The new law ending is a utopia without the mind control. The new chaos ending I’m sure makes sense if you’re a retarded teenager.

>No way to have it on non-ds consoles anyway. It was a good run
Switch has a touchscreen. Now would be a perfect time for one last hurrah.

They already reached their peak. They can't be good forever.

TRANSLATE THE SEQUEL AND PORT BOTH TO PC ATLUS YOU NIGGGEEERRSSS

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>P3's combat being bad is overexaggerated because I said so
Meanwhile, halfway through my Tartarus session, I just fucking spent an entire fight trying to recover from 1 miss due to retarded AI and went from 80% resources to 30%, and everyone feels tired. Then go home and MC gets sick. All of this is completely out of your control. Yeah, great game.

Persona 3 for starters

>Meanwhile, halfway through my Tartarus session, I just fucking spent an entire fight trying to recover from 1 miss due to retarded AI and went from 80% resources to 30%, and everyone feels tired. Then go home and MC gets sick. All of this is completely out of your control.

This hurts to read. Imagine if this guy played EO

>Be honest, you just made the thread to bait people into dicussing that, right?

This thread was 100% made by the seething nocturne baby who got btfo in the smt v 1 million sales thread

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You barely check the turn order or change tactics, don't you?

I loved the combat in SMT V so much that I didn't really care, but you're right the story and characters were god awful. That's why my consecutive playthroughs have me always skipping cutscenes. Feels like a 10/10 game if you do that.

if it was a nocturne babby I have a feeling he wouldn't have gave another 6 years worth of games under what he thinks is good user

>sh2 will be kino
You lost me there user
Sh2 looks like dogshit

Can't do that if MC misses and falls down like a toddler, now can you?

Damn that pic is insanely accurate
Why is nocturne so fucking overrated? It's not even as good as V let alone IV

My initial reaction to SH2 was pretty terrible, but the more I see of it the more it grows on me.
PV02 is quite a bit better than the first.
That being said I'm still not all that confident in it feeling like a proper SH follow up, but it doesn't mean I won't be able to enjoy it in its own right.
I'd be more comfortable if it was just DeSum3 as opposed to specifically a SH follow up

This is something that always bothers me about nu-Yea Forums

It's the same fucking franchise and the same fucking company, why lock yourself to only like 1 or 2 games when all of them have something going for them (even If... and the old OLD megaten) it's turbo autism at it's finest.

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user, Atlus published those games.

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Babie's first smt unironically.

You're supposed to check the turn order and set up your tactics, you know, BEFORE you have him do something. That's kinda the point of the game.

Yeah, that was my point when I said it will be kino earlier. Megaten never gets this dark or graphic, so I'm excited to see a truly adult entry.

Same reason for the rest of the retarded tribalism on this board on a daily basis. Just a bunch of faggots that desperately want to feel superior to someone so they need to split everything into two sides and insist that their side is superior and the other one is shit.

It wasn't perfect, but I had a good time. I'll never understand the hate. Game was solid in most regards but honestly would have been better without a story. Just wandering the Da'at with your demons fighting bosses. Side quests were fine, and the Shiva fight is by far one of the most memorable bosses in the entire franchise.

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You are a actual retard because p2 is literally spamming fusion spells the entire game, God p2 fags are absolutely fucking retarded

That means nothing if he misses, retard. You clearly didn't play the game. You can recover if your party misses, but if MC misses, good luck recovering from that on hard mode.

It's partially consolewar faggotry, but also atlus fans are incredibly autistic in general, and smt fans are an even more autistic subset of that Fandom

With nocturne specifically there's a high level of rose colored glasses effect too, as most people played it in their edgy teenage years and thought it was le hardest game ever, but the remake and replaying it has probably alleviated that slightly (at least it did for me)
t. Former insufferable nocturne defense force member

whos got the rights. i'll mail them a bomb

so much different than spamming one of the three basic spells then instakilling the enemy
you secondaries are delusional

It's not as bad on PSX versions, at least thats the impression I got from EP on PSX.

No, switch doesn't have a touch screen. Or to be more precise, doesn't have a touch screen that can do actual gameplay that can only be done by the touch screen
Why?
Because any switch game need to be 100% played while docked (with no touchscreen)

I want another Snowboard Kids game. SBK2 is my favorite racing game of all time.