This rework however will NOT be turning specialists into classes, as that would be too difficult for DICE to accomplish with current technology.
Expect all following Battlefield games (and yes, next one is in the works) be involving specialists (now to be called "mercenaries") in some form or another.
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>they are doubling down with it
Why does DICE hate money? Are they actual commies?
>Are they actual commies?
Yes.
>too difficult for DICE to accomplish with current technology.
More like they don't want to admit it was a stupid fucking change in the first place and because they'd also lose the option of selling more skins down the road. If there even is a down the road for this game, didn't it hit about 1k players or some shit recently?
Why are you posting this? I'm sure the one person on this board who actually plays this shit already knows. You're like the guy who posted updates to Lawbreakers
Meh still playing BF4.
Dice always finds a way to fuck it up. I'll stick to BF1.
>This rework however will NOT be turning specialists into classes, as that would be too difficult for DICE to accomplish with current technology.
What's the fucking point, then? EVERYONE FUCKING HATES THE HEROES.
The game is dead because of that and numerous other fucking problems. Are they going to fix the shitty feeling of shooting? Are they going to fix the spotting/visibility issues?
It's been 1,000 since March. It's bleeding players and I doubt the season in the summer will fix it.
>It's more than take it and code
No it isn't. Literally remove the fucking specalists "passive" and make it a kit item if you're that fucking chuffed to use the shitty grappling hook and others.
Angel, your fucking support specalist proves you can fucking do this shit because he has the ability to heal AND resupply people, something you locked in the other heroes to either/or.
>Expect all following Battlefield games (and yes, next one is in the works) be involving specialists (now to be called "mercenaries") in some form or another.
If DICE really does Specialists in the next Battlefield game then they absolutely deserve the fate all other EA studios get. So fucking clueless if they haven't learned from this disastrous game.
I don't think it's necessarily DICE themselves, it's EA. EA's wanted a Battlefield Battle Royale since Vagina flopped.
Firestorm was a waste of Criterions time since the player base didn't fucking want it.
The Tarkov clone (whatever it's called, forgetting it's name) in 2042 is also a waste of DICE-LA/Ripple Effect and DICE's time because nobody that plays Tarkov wants it in a fucking Battlefield skin.
So the whole EA mandating shit is a waste of DICE's time, but Patrick "buy it or don't" Soderlund left after Vagina flopped to where he can't tell the EA CEO to get bent and that's a waste of his companies time.
So since it's nothing but juniors now, DICE has to do it.
It's not about the money.
It's about their propaganda.
why do these games all rip off each other now instead of just continuing to do what they do now because it's unique and their niche? why does there have to be specialists? because CoD has specialists? for fuck sakes get me off this wild ride. what's the point of different developers and publishers if they all release the same fucking game
All of the talent that knew how to actually code already left. Why do you think it took months to get a fucking scoreboard?
Meh, still playing BF2.
lol just make fucking battlefield, how hard is it?
I don't understand how EA is OK with Battlefield being such a failure now. Even if they hypothetically could make more money per player selling specialist skins they have to be at a loss still from how many players have already left. If the next Battlefield bombs as badly again they have no reason to not axe DICE at this point as all the senior staff have already fled the sinking ship.
Because EA wants money. Same reason 343 and DICE and every fucking shooter company is going games as a service because (before the Apple iceburg) Fortnite was making money hand-over-fist but at the expense of burning employees out due to weekly update schedules.
These other companies say they're "live services" but then get shocked when people leave because they aren't updating weekly.
>DICE COMFIRMS
>obsessed with specialists
I don't get it at all. If they wanted money, they could have adopted a combat arms model where players have the choice to have player-customized generic avatars and unique avatars. In fact they would earn more from snowflake whales who buy stuff to play barbie and they could still push their ideology with the unique avatars.
There's no explanation for this other than complete and utter retardation bordering on a medical diagnosis of severe cognitive impairment. Just why
It's really retarded considering they get Apex money. They should be thankful that they even have one successful battle royale game when all but 3 of them have flopped.
Can I get a quick run down on the specialist thing
Do you remember when they double downed on server browser web app? It took them a long time to realize it was a terrible idea, and eventually went back to in-game server browsers.
DICE has beaten 343 for the crown of most awful developer.
they know they fucked up but they wont admit it
The sad irony being that battlelog was better than anything they've done since.
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>In Conquest and Breakthrough gamemodes, all human players exclusively play as specialists, while any AI teammates appear as generic classes.
no classes just characters, like siege
It doesn't make sense.
I haven't bought a Battlefield in at least 5 entries now, so do what you fucking want at this point.
This is all DICE's fault. Just look at how they treat fans with contempt on twitter, they think they are geniuses who can do no wrong.
>have the choice to have player-customized generic avatars and unique avatars.
They literally already did that perfectly in BF5. 2042 is just not a BF game so it doesn't matter.
They're so fucking dumb goddamn.
Even Call of Duty out of all games gave up on the hero shooter aspect years ago by making them there just for the looks, not to mention that they appealed to those who wanted to play as nameless grunts as well.
Can they all use the same weapons?
Instead of classes it's now a handful of specific voiced characters, like in Overwatch or Siege. This means that you get 16 of the same non binary negress with face tattoos and a nose ring fighting eachother and spouting the cringy dialogue all together.
Yes, any weapon and any gadget.
for a while cod really did try quite hard to innovate
dios mio... what's the point then? why even have them (besides money)
>besides money
they're not even getting that
we just don't know
I always thought it was funny that the marketers for this game knew what fans wanted more than the actual devs.
>They should be thankful
that's not how capitalism works
>marketers for this game knew what fans wanted more than the actual devs
The reveal trailer says it all
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The game was originally a shitty BR that they realised was dogshit very late in development and last minute tried to hack it into a BF game like a tranny neo-vagina.
they get paid unbelievable amounts of money by Blackrock and other large investors to include diversity wokeshit in their games. 30 million drooling retards will still buy the game for the title no matter what and then they take that money and pool it with the dozens to hundreds of millions they got from diversity investors. not to mention tranny whales buying skins on top of that
Because DICE is extremely arrogant and stubborn. They are incapable of admitting that they were wrong, so they just blame the fans for not liking what they have generously bestowed upon us and double down on their own slow suicide.
I just want another Bf3/4 with a new skin and some guns... Come on dice
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>everyone who isn't skitzo is a tranny
Not my problem anymore.
Legit don't care.
>I don't understand how EA is OK with Battlefield being such a failure now.
It's simple, FPS is a dead genre. Call of Duty doesn't do Call of Duty numbers anymore, they don't care because it's essentially a dead IP as far as management is concerned, so they'll use it to test out predatory design tactics with no care if those tactics run the IP into the ground.
What a lot of people on Yea Forums fail to realize is that just because a game isn't being developed, doesn't mean the studio isn't costing money. It costs exactly the same amount of money for a studio to put out a low effort piece of shit like 2042 as it would for that studio to produce literally nothing, as such EA is not actually taking a financial risk with these titles - this is money that was going to be spent on upkeep regardless, so they're using it to figure out what they can get away with.
Note that when I say FPS is a dead genre, I don't mean in actual terms, but in marketing terms. It's not the Trend anymore, which coincidentally enough has opened up the genre for smaller titles like Battlebit to take off by simply doing what Battlefield did, except without all the corporate shit tacked on.
I'm pretty sure Planetside 2 has more players than 2042 by now.
Talk about a fucking zombie game.
didn't a creative director quit because how stubborn dice's devs really are nowadays even to the point of not accepting any form of feedback when they fucked something up.
The most amazing thing about this is that I read that essentially everyone who playtested the game said that the specialists were a bad idea and that removal of classes was going to ruin the game. They went ahead with it anyways. Once released, the entire gaming community told them AGAIN it was a terrible idea. It is now months later, the game is dead, and they're half-assedly changing it while refusing to admit they were wrong.
It is incredible. Even better, we literally all know why they did it in the first place. They wanted to copy other popular titles that utilized these types of characters so they can sell expensive, overpriced cosmetics around everything. They want to monetize every part of a character like Call of Duty or Overwatch. It was such a cynical, business-first decision that completely destroyed the game and they were told every step of the way it was bad.
>everyone who replies with typical meds + tranime image in defense of wokeshit megacorporations is definitely a tranny
yes
>It was such a cynical, business-first decision that compl
but it doesn't make sense they could have made the same amount of money with ways to let people customize generic characters
look at the fucking autism in ffxiv or fortnite with all the various shit they can sell
it wasn't cynical it wasn't business first it was incompetency
>are there trannies in the room with you now user?
Yes it was, because it was copying other people. I agree with you that they still could have come up with cosmetics for the generic soldiers but in their minds you won't "like" your soldier and won't want to get cosmetics for them. They are under the impression that people go "Wow, I love Tracer so much. I will buy her skins, sprays, play of the games, voice lines, emotes, and everything else!" and so if they do not give each character a distinct and annoying personality no one will want to spend money.
you are posting the definitive troon replies, it's like you faggots are made in a factory. it's always the exact same responses, exact same images. I guess that's what discord does to ur brain
they should just move on to the next game already. they realy think they can turn this shit around lmao?
the game is dead and never coming back
They've already started development from what I hear. I'm wondering if they're finally going to ditch Frostbite, which is by all accounts a fucking nightmare to work with. Not sure if UE5 can handle the scale of BF games though.
But they are.
That is them saying that the whole specialist will be a on every battlefield from now on
>you are posting the definitive troon replies, it's like you faggots are made in a factory. it's always the exact same responses, exact same images. I guess that's what discord does to ur brain
>which is by all accounts a fucking nightmare to work with
is it really? I thought it was made only for battlefield to help with the levolution system and whatnot
They have to jiggle between trends, diversity, gaas, skins, esports, etc. Fortunately these studios are losing followers every day so maybe we can see a change in the future.
Why even bother working on a new game when they clearly have zero idea what they're doing or even the basic competence to execute it even if they did?
Perhaps if you keep getting told by various people no matter what platform you are on that trannies live rent free in your head, they do infact live rent free in your head.
>I thought it was made only for battlefield
It was, but it was shit from the get-go, then EA demanded that it be adapted for ALL their in-house titles. Dragon Age Inquisition is also on Frostbite for example. Not to mention FB3 is what, nearly 15 years old at this point? It was used for BF3 which released in 2011 iirc, which means the engine itself must have been in development in 2009-2010.