With Switch sales declining do you think Nintendo launches a new console next year?
2020 was 28 million sales 2021 is looking to be around 21 million sales 2022 will probably be around 16-17 million sales based on current trends
So 2023 is starting to feel like the logical time for a successor. No reason to sit through a 12 million sale year when they can launch a new system and get 25. With Switch sales dropping so rapidly despite the OLED I cant imagine a pro would do much to extend the life, so that feels too late at this point.
What do you think? Do they truck it out, or do they move on next year?
Pointless now that the steam deck exists and its kids are on the way
Dylan Anderson
Steam deck cant even connect to a TV, it's not even the same kind of product. It's like comparing a TV to a phone screen because a phone can technically run videos.
Nolan Hernandez
people that need to play mobile games on-the-go are cringe af
Cameron Russell
>With Switch sales declining Lol no they're not
Elijah Reed
They objectively are. The OLED slowed the decline down for the holidays, but it's continuing again. Sales in Japan are down about 25% vs the same period last year and that gap is growing as we get further away from the OLED's release. This is also making the gap in 2021 compared to 2020 larger than it appeared before. It's looking like 2021 will see about 21 million sales, compared with 28 million in 2020.
>when they can launch a new system and get 25 Switch sold 14.8 million in 2017
Hudson Wilson
>2021 will see about 21 million sales X
Adrian Nguyen
I'm not contributing to that number because I bought secondhand cfw shit
Chase Williams
There are no European hardware numbers released so I have no idea where this article claims to be getting this data from. I know some countries show top software numbers but none of them give hardware sales.
Brody Morales
He's right. Deck is a handheld, Switch is a home console with a portable option. Even if you get a dock for Deck (sold separately) it only works as an TV out, while being docked is Switch's default state and it underclocks when taken out.
Luke Rodriguez
Switch 2 will be much more inviting on launch because of backwards compatibility with an existing library. The regular switch only had 3 games worth playing in the first year and one was a full price port of an existing game.
Jordan Long
Are you really suggesting gameindustry.biz is not reputable?
Colton Rodriguez
Literally nobody cares about your shitty budget prebuilt.
Brayden Hernandez
I'm not going to just take them at their word, they have to have an actual source, which they don't have. I wish there were European hardware sales numbers released but there are not. We get hardware sales numbers from Japan, and from America we hear who sold the most but Europe gives us nothing except a few countries game charts.
Jordan Nelson
>needing a dock to connect your steam deck to the tv you're such a fucking retarded brainlet. all consoleniggers should be banned permanently from Yea Forums. the deck has usb c ports that output display.
Ryan Reed
Why do low IQ schizos say "switch 2" instead of switch successor?
Jacob Myers
Let me know when the deck gets games then we'll talk, vegan
Chase Morris
Next year, probably That's likely why BOTW2 got delayed. I wager, without covid, it would have come out last year or so. But with Covid, it pushed the game's deadline just far back enough that it made more sense, ultimately, to just release it with the new console. This is the same reason BOTW got delayed as well
David Morales
Because it's faster. Personally I'd expect something like Super Nintendo Switch or Ultra Nintendo Switch.
Alexander Taylor
>still thinks nintendo is going to make another "Wii 2" mistake You have to be 18 to post here
Ian Rogers
The Switch is also a handheld that comes with an optional Game Boy player unless you buy the lite.
Colton Evans
The problem with the Wii U is that it didn't have enough original content at launch to clearly differentiate itself. It took a long time to build up interesting games like Mario Kart or Xenoblade X and by then it was too late. If they just launch a "super nintendo switch" with an open world 3D Mario game and Mario Kart 9, no one is gonna be confused on what it is.
Samuel Reyes
Mario Kart 8 has DLC coming through 2023. The next console will not be until at least 2024.
Samuel Lopez
That was not the main problem with the WiiU
Easton Ortiz
Unless it's backwards compatible?? Dunno how you can make a claim like that when we're at 2 years of Xbox and Playstation having crossgen support.
Anthony Ortiz
>Mario Kart 8 has DLC coming through 2023. The next console will not be until at least 2024. First of all, I don't see why you think that. Consoles always get new releases and even full games after the next one comes out. It's not like they'll abandon the switch entirely as soon as they release a new one. The Switch has over 100 million owners to sell shit to and Nintendo likes money.
But it only goes until late 2023, and they could also launch the console late 2023, which would be next year.
Dylan Powell
Steam Deck
Anthony Mitchell
The sales need to decline enough that it hurts the bottom line first, Doesnt help no competition means they can sit on this model for awhile too.
Robert Adams
They have analysts that predict these sorts of things, user. The Wii was still doing fine and had its own niche and it was replaced in the same time frame.
Brody Smith
early 2023 when BOTW2 releases.
Cameron Cruz
It wasnt though, around the end the Wii fell off hard with little sales coming from hardware at all since everyone was selling them.
Bentley Gray
Switch 2 Pro: Lovelace edition
Connor Turner
You realise that a new console would have to have a Mario Kart on it to please shareholders and releasing MK9 while 8 is still getting DLC would canabalise sales.
Julian Murphy
See
David Wilson
Next spring. BotW2 is launch game.
Eli Nguyen
Ok, schizo, mind explaining what that is?
Carson Bell
Not really argumentative.
Jacob Adams
Isn't it Dane, not Lovelace? Or are they somehow the same thing?
I think they will, and BOTW2 will be a launch title
Hunter Ward
I mean, Nintendo fans deflamed Bloomberg for not being reputable on a possible Switch Pro so yeah, can understand how the "reputable" source can be questioned. That being said, the data is pulled from isfe.eu/games-sales-data/ and it's basically Europe's NPD except focused entirely on digital. You're also not going to get the raw report without being able to pay for the membership subscription which you probably want to work at a financial firm to access or you are a business executive at a video game company.
DxM/SMTV/DP2 definition edition, MP4, Bayonetta 3 and Super Princess Peach 2 as launch title.
Austin Collins
DP2 really needs one. Still haven't finished it because of the awful open world framerate.
Xavier Carter
Probably Dane yearlong codename on Lovelace?
Justin Ortiz
Yeah. Unfortunately, great storytelling need performance boost.
Lucas Gutierrez
Anyone else would like a boxed only console but cheaper due to no screen and battery? The "it doesn't switch" argument stopped being relevant after the portable only Switch release
Jose Ortiz
>With Switch sales declining Source?
Benjamin Cox
B- but 2020 outbreak?
Wyatt Gomez
Impossible. This isn't an issue on the "switch" part, it'll create an issue where developers will only make a "docked only" version of games that won't run on the handheld variants at all. Nintendo would be stupid to allow that, even if it benefits some consumers.
Nathan Diaz
I swear to god no one remembers EA trying to strongarm Nintendo into making them the online service provider during the initial reveal/stage presentation only for Nintendo to embarrass them immediately after saying "we don't know what the fuck they were talking about" Within a month EA pulled 90% of what they promised on the system and then stonewalled other devs from releasing Wii U games using their engines
Blake Watson
It's too early, there isn't a mobile chip capable of modern games at 1080p/60 low settings in the $400 range.
Apple Silicon can do it at low wattage, but that's not happening.
Connor Bennett
>Anyone else would like a boxed only console but cheaper due to no screen and battery? No, I already have a computer
Hudson Jenkins
>Apple Silicon can do it at low wattage, but that's not happening. Apple's chip take up more silicon than a fucking geforce 3070 GPU. They're filled with tiny hardware acceleration chips that boost performance way above what the actual mobile chips can do.
Jack Watson
Sales are probably declining because everyone already owns a switch. How do you market to people when everyone already owns your products?
Jaxon Howard
>Nintendo announces Switch successor >Names it the Switch U
Super Switch Up, than another next successor is Ultra Switch Forward
Landon Parker
So just like some games need joycons to work on the Lite?
Does that computer play Switch carts?
Joseph Martinez
By making console revisions
Henry Diaz
Bloomberg botched the Mariko silent revision in 2019 and OLED / E3 in 2021. I think it's pretty fair to be skeptical of them. I don't think anyone would be surprised to see a stronger version, but timing is just as important.
Carter Nguyen
Please never run a business
Tyler Davis
Forget DP2, NMH3 should have had an extra year to finish some content and be a launch title for Switch 2. Would've done just as well as Bayo 3, the hype was there until the actual footage came out and then the WoM about it being unfinished hit.