Warhammer 40k

>DoW 1-2
>Space Marine
>Mechanicus

fair enough

Space Hulk Deathwing and Necromunda both by the EYE devs.

both also suck

Ravenfield with outdated mods

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WH40K, but like the actual game and not some faggy vidya

If you're really addicted to vidya
>dow1
>stretch pick dow2 but it isn't even 50% as good

>i wanna play a good game in WH40K setting
Sucks for you I guess. Dawn of War 1 and 2 are good but that's literally it. The rest is all low budget shovelware or Space Marine which is a generic 3rd person shooter with 0 style.

what about dow3?

We don’t talk about DOW3

real WH40kchads don't play awful shit like DoW. You recommend Chaos Gate like a man or nothing at all.

anything good, im intnterested mainly in the lore played only dow1 basen game without aby expansion pack

Dawn of War 2.

Easily the best story a 40k game has ever had. Together with Chaos Rising, it's the best 40k game on the market. Also one of the best games ever made and definitely a must play.

You could play Dark Crusade as Blood Ravens before, to get the backstory, but it's not necessary. And if you haven't played this one before it might feel clunky as hell to you. DoW1 didn't really age well. I love it but it's mostly nostalgia and brand attachment for me.

Then there's Space Marine. Which is a "decent enough" 3rd person action game, that has you ride elevators a lot. I'd definitely recommend this one too, because it gets a lot of things right.

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For real?

I have played every relic game since I was a kid. Relic was THE innovators in RTS. Even got into DoW1 closed beta and played in dow1 local paid comps and won.

DoW2 was bad. Gameplay was shallow and after DoW1 -> CoH there was no great leap further forward in the RTS genre. This fact was so glaring i started digging deeper into why it was trash. Turns out after DoW1 and CoH the core relic devs jumped ship and started blackbird interactive. You may know these guys as the team who were making the hardware: shipbreakers game that eventually got made into Deserts of Kharak after gearbox bought the rights to homeworld and reached out to them to do the HW remasters. They are now currently making HW3 as well as shipbreaker in there own universe.

Just like any other development studio its only as good as its core dev team and Relic has been baron and soulless since after COH1. You can clearly see the drop in quality with the COH1 expansions. even the animatics are cheap ripoffs of THE homeworld animatic guy.

I have been saying Nu-relic is cancer for years and nobody believed me. Then COH2 and DOW3 happened and people were surprised.

i played it on the PSP and it was amazing. Was like a modern day version of the first chaos gate (original one from like 1998)

mechanicus

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>Gameplay was shallow and after DoW1
Nta but that's pretty retarded given that dow 2 has much more tactical depth.

dow1 is literally just mass producing units and then sending them to the enemy base. even amongst RTS games it's one of the most brain-dead entries. If it wasn't for the 40k skin, it'd be forgotten.

not a zoomer game but i love space hulk for 3do/ps1. really feels like the movie Aliens like no other game. too bad the graphics are very 1995, combat gameplay could be vastly improved too, but atmosphere, sound design and tactical gameplay are quite spot on

there is only DoW1-2 and Space Marine.

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Quite possibly the worst 40k game ever made. Don't fall for this.

you reading comprehension is bad. I said depth of DoW2 compared to the huge leaps forward for RTS from dow1 to CoH compared to coh to dow2.

Dow2 was made to be esports trash first and a game second. in a lot of ways dow2 isnt even a RTS but more of a RTT. When compared to that metric it also fails to not be a shallow piece of shit because games like MoW:AS2 came out around the same time.

As for your comment about just mass producing units and throwing at enemy base thats the same retarded argument people said about starcraft without actually seeing what high level gameplay starcraft reaches. Whats doubly funny is you obviously havent played high level DoW2 MP because that level of gay cheese is exactly how it turns out. For the longest time top tier DoW2 play was dominated by nothing but eldar rapeballs of 6 squads of guardians and one farseer running around with fleet of foot and oneshotting everything else with aoe attacks then running away till cooldown reset and then doing it over and over again.

The real chaos gate from 90's and not that nu-shit

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The first one was better.

Also, play Final Liberation. It's worth it for the cutscenes alone.

youtu.be/uUym2OXymxc

Danw of war2 and Space Marine are the only good ones I've played and I've played most of the bigger ones

>Dawn of war 1: dark crusade
One of the first games i ever played. Great campaign but doesn't hold up in modern days. It's too by thenumbers.
>Dawn of war 1 soulstorm
Outsourced trash that only the modding community used to make it better but has the same genre issues as all dow1
>Dawn of War 2
Oh look at that, strategy, positioning, unit selection and load out now actually matters. 2 went from 1's quantity to quality. And it's a damn fine game
>Chaos Rising
Great continuation of 2s story. Pretty much the same game with added corruption gimmick.
>Retribution
Trash only aimed at competitive multiplayer people.
>Space hulk
Not nearly as decent as it should be given it comes from a basic ass Boardgame
>Deathwing
Lol
>Battlefleet Gothic Armada
I liked it more than i thought it would but not enough. it was too much of a classic RTS which held it back. The in game art was amazing tho.
>Space Marine
Basic ass shooter/slasher but it oozes soul. Made by people who actually care about the source material and it shows. If it's just the universe you want, this is your go to

I didn't hate Necromunda, it was flawed but fun

Wow you're butthurt

Speaking of RTT such as mowas2 here is what mowas2 engine + 40k looks like.

youtube.com/watch?v=kAdCg7yiRv0

thousand times better then dow2s eshart attempt at an RTT.

>Dow2 was made to be esports trash first and a game second.
>it also fails to not be a shallow piece of shit

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yeah i am, why wouldnt i be? should i bend over further and spread my cheeks wider when a dev i previously loved puts out a dogshit product? I just have no problem calling a turd a turd and it worked out in the long run. Nu-relic is a laughing stock and blackbird interactive is the golden child of rts games again.

Dow2 was/is rightfully regarded as one of the best games of its time and an exceptional title.

And you're wrong about thinking it was made as an eSports game as well. In fact, the original has terrible multiplayer implementation which was widely criticized at launch, because people wanted a multiplayer game due to trends, but DoW2 focused so much on its campaign instead. As it's one of most exhaustive campaigns in RTS.

Hence why Retribution was made. Which came with a copy pasted campaign and a 200% multiplayer focus, including last stand which is still played.

>blackbird interactive is the golden child of rts games again.
lmao
>deserts of kharak
>flopped terribly
>average 7/10 ratings
>felt like a standard 2001 RTS
kek
>Minecraft Earth
>shitty augmented reality game that not even Minecraft kiddies wanted to play
>shut down already
yikes
>Hardspace shipbreaker
>flavor of the month game that's only meant as advertising for homeworld 3
>simple and brain-dead gameplay loop aimed at autists
>forgotten already
oof
>Crossfire legion
>tie in game to a shitty chink shooter
hahaha

dude you're an absolute RIOT!

/thread.

Those are the only good ones. Ever have, maybe ever will be... Anything disagreeing with them is either stupid, or has some sort of agenda. We'll see how Space Marine 2 and Darktide turn out.

>you're wrong about thinking it was made as an eSports game as well. In fact, the original has terrible multiplayer implementation which was widely criticized at launch

You must be either too young or your memory is far to short. Relic were boasting how they were making dow2 into an esport. They were submitting requests left and right to get it added to the lists of professionally played games in different areas. It failed for the same reason everything relic touches post COH fails is because it was poorly done.

Also I tend to find people who love the dow2 campaign must have been 12 at the time of playing it and thus have some sort of nostalgia attached to it.

Let me sum up evey dow2 mission in the campaign:
>go north
>kill a boss

fuck it even became a meme on Yea Forums for christ sake.

>I have played every relic game since I was a kid. Relic was THE innovators in RTS. Even got into DoW1 closed beta and played in dow1 local paid comps and won.
so that's why you have a weird attachment to what is probably one of the most shallow and simplified rts games on the market whichs only saving grace is it's franchise branding.
nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

looks like i touched a nerve. you seem upset.

deserts of kharak did the impossible and made a true to form prequal to homeworld with the same depth and soul as the original. 7/10 reviews? are you the last person on the internet who gives two shits about reviews? If i call mass effect 3 shit will you come back at me with all the 10/10 reviews it got?

You also forgot the remaster of the two homeworld games that they actually made better then the original. How you ask? homeworld 1 had a advanced ballistics model where every bullet was calculated physically. This means that a cannon shot from a battleship may by total luck hit a fighter and cause it to explode. HW2 went a more numbers based damage calculation. Blackbird went back and put the ballstics model back into both as well as redoing the fleet behaviors of all craft in both games.

>hardspace shipbreaker advertising for hw3
they were making this game for years before hw3 was even a thing and its not even set in the same universe. your grasping at straws here and im not sure why

>crossfire legion
yeah smaller devs have to take outsourced jobs to pay the bills for projects they would rather be doing how is this new?

dude the only one upset is you lmfao

ive been playing rts since dune 2 and c&c tiberium dawn. I played thousands of hours of dow1 competiatively online and the only people i have seen who say its a shallow and basic rts are the people who only ever played bots or with some random friends one time at a lan.

its the exact same argument used for starcraft being a basic dumb rts. all you need to is make 4 pool ling rush and you win. flash and the rest of the ASL/KSL for the past 25 years should have made that abundantly clear that isnt the case.

Nothing you said has actually any impact on what I said.

DoW 2 has one of the most exhaustive campaigns, and more of a crafted single player campaign than any other Dow game. Many missions in dow 1 campaigns were just lazy multiplayer style maps with some objectives sprinkled on, still resulting in the typical "remove enemy base" objectives. That's a fact. What you think about it is irrelevant.

Fact is also that the original 2's multiplayer bombed. And the PLAYERS wanted more of it. The narrative that the devs pushed it is simply wrong. Again: hence why Retribution was made after DoW2s core development ended with CR.

I get it, you have some weird company devotion to early Relic. But what you say, and even more, how you say it, is just stupid.
And I've been here since '09 and never once saw those supposed memes.

>played thousands of hours of dow1 competiatively online and the only people i have seen who say its a shallow and basic rts are the people who only ever played bots or with some random friends one time at a lan.
>competitive dow1
Oh god of terrifying. That's like playing fisher price "competitively"

>The first twenty minutes are just economy booming, and then you mass up lots of T3 units and attack. In DoW, if you camp in your base, your enemy gets map, so he gets an economic advantage, so he should win. Balance has always been an issue in DoW. With four races, they got it close enough after four patches. But eh, 9 races makes it a bit stupid.
t. actual dow1 eSports player.

Is Battlefleet Galactica or whatever it's called good?

I saw some cool cinematics on Youtube for it

>its the exact same argument used for starcraft being a basic dumb rts.
Nobody ever said that you falseflagging moron.
And comparing StarCraft to fucking dow1 is like comparing chess to connect four. And I like dow1.

Dawn of War.
The first one.

were measuring dicks now?
october 03 just before Yea Forums died for the 3rd time.

its funny because your acusations of a strange devotion to relic who made legit groundbreaking games like HW1, HW2, DoW1 and CoH yet not DoW2 which you seem hell bent on defending as something more then it was.

Every mission is exactly the same
GO NORTH
KILL A BOSS
you just have fond memories because of some character customization and some semi well written banter between squadmates.

Give me some time and ill track down my Yea Forums folder from that period when saving memes was still a thing. Have an old combo of mine from back in 07 till then.

I have covid and am too brain dead to play games right now so this is the most fun ive had on the internet in days. By all means please continue till i return

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Play actual 40k on Tabletop Simulator online.
Completely free other than the cost of TTS, access to all models, and you can even recolor them to sate your tism.
Games are faster and more streamlined than playing in person.

what about Inquisitor - Martyr?

Its a mix of great ideas poorly executed. Feels kind of jank but worth a playthrough on sale maybe

This user gets it.
DoW2 tried to copy CoH but in a 40k setting and was full of incredibly awful design choices and balance issues.
DoW2 isn't an awful game and it's perfectly serviceable but when you start digging down into it you realise how poor it is for 40k it really is

DoW2 had light armor being BETTER at reducing damage than medium or heavy armor by virtue of no weapons having bonus damage against it. The cool large weapons were mostly cool but useless and the large scale battles and "no retreat" mentality of 40k was lost for tiny ass skirmishes and spamming retreat because losing a SIGNLE unit can cost you the game.
DoW1 captures the essence of 40k a lot better. DoW2 is a CoH clone that plays worse. If you prefer DoW2 to DoW1 just play CoH.

The campaign was large but mostly shallow and RNG drop farming.
Fun as fuck on multiplayer though, holy shit that was the best choice they ever made. I'd have died of boredom if I was trying to solo that shit but doing it on multiplayer and having to work together made it pretty enjoyable.

VRChat.
... back before they massively reduced what you were allowed to do with custom avatars.
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Battlefleet gothic and Space Marine

For me it's sphess mahrine.
Is it an amazing 10/10 game? No.
Is it fun as fuck? yes
If the gameplay clicks with you it's a blast.

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I played Mechanicus for a few hours at release and it felt very barebones with its copy-pasted levels.
Is it better now? I'm tired of replaying XCOM over and over again. I need something else to scratch that itch.

>were measuring dicks now?
No we're not. I was merely saying that I've been around since the game came out and never once saw that supposed meme. Stop being so insecure.
Nice image btw.

>its funny because your acusations of a strange devotion to relic who made legit groundbreaking games like HW1, HW2, DoW1 and CoH
Wow you're really proving me wrong here buddy.

>GO NORTH
>KILL A BOSS
Sometimes you go south actually :^)
Seriously though, it couldn't matter less which direction you go when the mission itself has more strategic elements, and positioning and more important resource management, and all around more micro than all of dow1 combined.

Again, you you didn't even address, and I wonder why, that every mission in dow1 is literally just a multiplayer style map with the ultimate objective being to rush the enemy's base, and the gameplay boiling down to capturing some resource points on the way so the numbers go up.

Also ignoring that DoW1 was literally developed in the wake of StarCraft making RTS (eSports) popular. Only that it came years to late to get the foot in the door, and was also way too shallow to bring anything to the table.

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Still looking but I found an old gem i havent seen in years. Posting because fuck you thats why

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>DoW1 captures the essence of 40k a lot better.
The only people who say that are secondaries high on 40k memes. 40k is much more than just what you know from codice spreads.

actually point capture instead of resources, hero units, melee and killsyncs, fluid full 3d and custom banners and moral are just off the top of my head pretty big additions.

this argument is stupid especially if you go all the way back to the earliest editions. Early 40k played a lot more like gorkamorka did then modern 40k tabletop does.

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bought it on sale, played for an hour, refunded
It's pure jank, you just go through corridors mowing down waves of weak enemies while some terrible voice actors spout various lore references
You don't even unlock new abilities, they're all tied to the type of weapons you use, skill tree is all passive +0.5% damage shit.
Yeah I'm mad, I would have loved a proper 40k diablo-clone

Dawn of War was always garbage. There I said it.
I'm so fucking tired of the nostalgia wank just because it was babbies first 40k game.

it's a shitty basic bitch rts that tries to be a warcraft 3 clone, but fails in literally everything. it's almost like it's made by an AI just going down checklists of what rts games need to have.
dawn of war 2 did it right by merely being company of heroes, which already made classic rts obsolete at the time. and then it wins by applying source material relevant mechanics.

jumping on patrols from an elevated position with your jumppack crew, or setting up a prope ambush with your heavy squad behind cover was kino.
Also this.

>actually point capture instead of resources
not him but that makes literally 0 difference. resources you seek out and then defend them from the enemy stealing them. points you seek out and then defend them from the enemy stealing them.
different name same thing.